New Mage & Shaman Minion - Ras Frostwhisper

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  • Arthas's Avatar
    Robot Black Lotus 1265 5754 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    A new Legendary Mage/Shaman Minion, Ras Frostwhisper, has been revealed!

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Slightly better Despicable Dreadlord. Despicable Dreadlord isn't a bad card, so I don't think this will be a bad card either.

    Shamans will probably get more use out of it because of Wrath of Air Totem.

    I am a little underwhelmed by this legendary, it isn't a bad card, but not a very impressive one. I will play this if I open it, but it isn't worth crafting.

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • NegativeNemsy's Avatar
    405 206 Posts Joined 07/10/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I really like the design of almost all of these dual class cards so far.  This one benefits mage a little more than Shaman right now.  Mage has a couple more spell damage class cards in Standard than Shaman plus a lot more in wild.  I think for Shaman to get the most out of this card, it would need a weapon with spell damage on it.  Mage now has a 9 mana Flamestike with Kirin Tor Tricaster.  I'm not sure what that is worth but it could be an interesting deck build

     

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  • economicaooc's Avatar
    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I can't really imagine a deck in which you are willing to run this as a combo board clear when mage and shaman have access  to so many great single card control tools already. The single sided nature of the board clear is less relevant when you can't use it to bypass taunt minions.

    If you want to do something strong with this, shaman is probably to class to go for, especially with lightning bloom being printed. The problem is that any combo that generates a lot of spell damage in one turn could also win by just playing burn spells.

    This post is discussing the wild format.

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  • GoliathTheDwarf's Avatar
    980 667 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I like seeing spell damage used creatively like this. It reminds me a bit of Unexpected Results from Boomsday in that style. 

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  • Elfensilver's Avatar
    595 663 Posts Joined 03/14/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I'm surprised that we didn't have a similar card in the D-A-M-A-G-E card design competion.

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  • Erodos's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 945 1019 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    As a huge fan of Spell Damage Shaman I'm insanely excited for this card. It's already a reasonably decent deck, and great support cards like this will really lift it to the next level.

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  • BloodMefist's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 850 804 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    We currently don't have much spell damage to support this card, but it's got a good baseline ability and stat spread already.  I think it might see play in tempo-decks since it clears the board and also pushes face damage, but we'll see how that shakes out.  If nothing else I think it makes Highlander lists just because its a pretty decent stand alone card.

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  • Horus's Avatar
    Detective Pikachu 2565 3344 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago
    Quote From GoliathTheDwarf

    I like seeing spell damage used creatively like this. It reminds me a bit of Unexpected Results from Boomsday in that style. 

    Indeed, fun creative scaling mechanic with a lovely mini AoE on a stick 
    I like it already

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  • scuac's Avatar
    385 167 Posts Joined 07/31/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago
    Quote From KANSAS

    Slightly better Despicable Dreadlord. Despicable Dreadlord isn't a bad card, so I don't think this will be a bad card either.

    Shamans will probably get more use out of it because of Wrath of Air Totem.

    I am a little underwhelmed by this legendary, it isn't a bad card, but not a very impressive one. I will play this if I open it, but it isn't worth crafting.

    It is a much better card than Despicable Dreadlord, has more health (more sticky) and goes face. I you can get any spell damage it is absurd.

    A puzzle box? What does it say? ... Yogi-Saffron something... sure, let's open it, what is the worst that could happen?

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  • Me0203's Avatar
    Design Champion 750 497 Posts Joined 06/13/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    This is lovely. Anybody else hoping that the other two Mage/Shaman cards will also have spell damage synergy? I can't wait!

    Better call Thrall!

     

     

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  • Emptyness's Avatar
    Supporter 520 525 Posts Joined 03/16/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I like it. 6 health is sticky enough and if you combine it with spell dmg, it can provide board clears for ages or until it's dealt with. And both classes has access to enough +spell dmg to make this one a scary threat. 

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  • Meteorite12's Avatar
    670 696 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Both classes have a dragon that gives +2 spell damage, and shaman of course has the totem, so it’s not that difficult to get spell damage for this thing. Kind of weird that it goes face though

    Who needs consistency when you could have fun?

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1890 5544 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Let's be honest, how often has mage run spell damage minions or effects? Judged on its own, its basically a Dragonmaw Scorcher plus, and that's what it will be 90% of the time. With only 6 health, it will die the following turn and if it doesn't, you're likely in a commanding position to win anyway.

    You might run this along with Bloodmage Thalnos and little else for a sometimes swingy play on 7, but otherwise its not really anyway impressive. There have been decks in the past running synergistic spell damage cards like Ethereal Augmerchant and Arcane Watcher, and mage has access to the very strong Azure Explorer, but in most cases, it has never worked out. For this card to maybe work, it must itself have spell damage, maybe +1, but unfortunately, it doesn't.

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  • DarkFrostX's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 830 1229 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Really good, even if you don't invest in spell power it seems like a solid threat on the board.

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  • Pezman's Avatar
    Staff Writer 2235 2227 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    This looks like a really good and fun card. The fact that it goes face might make a big difference sometimes. It will be hard to set this up for a massive blast (someone mentioned Kirin Tor Tricaster above) and even harder to make it stick for a turn, but solid value nonetheless.

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  • allthehype's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 630 739 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Both mage and shaman can get put spell damage easily, and Despicable Dreadlord was always a solid play. So yes, this could improve a lot of decks while not being a buildaround. 

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Better Dreadlord so I guess it will be a staple regardless of how reliably you can combo it with spell damage

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1585 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    This card can totally lock you out of a game.. Just like despicable dreadlord locked out odd paladin.. You get some spells damage and you could basically win against aggro. 

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  • Brandon's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1350 2486 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    So for Shaman it's a SLIGHTLY better Despicable Dreadlord at best, as this can hit FACE. BUT the damage increases with spell dmg. However i don't think this will EVER stay alive longer than 1 turn, so you gotta have a lot of spell dmg on board for this to work. And opponents always LOVE removing spell damage. And this also doesn't have that much synergy with Squallhunter, because of Squallhunters overload. Unless you play it AFTER [Hearthstone Card (Ray Frostwhisper) Not Found] survives a turn, which is VERY UNLIKELY. 

    For mage it has way more synergy and better cards like Azure Explorer and Kirin Tor Tricaster. This will probably see play in a more blast/burn mage archetype.

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  • Vandaren's Avatar
    620 636 Posts Joined 06/05/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Base value is great, more health than Despicable Dreadlord so can be a staple, but i wonder if there will be any spell damage build around him, can get ugly fast

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  • PLANETCRUNCH's Avatar
    E.V.I.L. Dragon 820 1248 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Off the bat everyone compares it to a Despicable Dreadlord with more potential, and it's easy to see why:

    Despicable Dreadlord had the same cost with about the same stat line (slightly more aggressive and slightly less health at 4/5 instead of 3/6). But whereas DD only did 1 damage at the end of your turn to all enemy minions Ras deals 1 damage to all enemies and is improved by spell damage, which both classes have received a legendary with spell damage in AoO.

    Unfortunately it's difficult to always fit in spell damage minions into a deck do to their deck building requirements. Mage has used, historically, spell damage minions if their tribal tag was part of a strong meta game - Celestial Emissary and Cosmic Anomaly saw play because Mage had access to Elemental Invocation to greatly discount their cost for a powerful board clear or single target removal. They're currently using Azure Explorer at the moment because of it's synergy with Maylgos and Arcane Breath in Highlander Mage.Mage will also be getting Mozaki, Master duelist who will gain spell damage per spell you play, it's clear these two have synergy with each other and their high health pool might even allow them to become a potent dynamic duo for Mage.

    Shamans currently have Squalhunter and Lady Vashj as collectible minions with spell damage, but neither have seen much play since Shaman's evolution tool kit is much stronger than their spell casting value toolkit. They are able to summon the wrath of air totm, but that has a 3/4 chance of being another totem, and it is usually removed once summoned to avoid a shaman from high-rolling with lightning storm. Although in the past Shamans did have spell damage minions in their decks when they were using spirit claws as an aggro/control tool.

    Most neutral spell damage minions do not see play aside from Malygos, who is a finishing piece in combo decks, or Bloodmage Thalnos, who is used for card draw. 

    We haven't seen the full Mage and Shaman list yet, but knowing how the card reveals works this is a sure sign that both classes will be receiving some spell damage minions. Whether they'll be strong enough to make this minion viable remains to be seen.

     

     

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  • sinti's Avatar
    Senior Writer Chocolate Cake 2070 2774 Posts Joined 10/20/2018
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    This card is going to make it into probably every Mage and Shaman deck, it will be that good. Interested to see just how oppressive it is going to become.

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Good card - i think this will be played nonetheless you have spell damage synergy or not.

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  • FrostyFeet's Avatar
    Senior Writer Derpcorn 2170 1449 Posts Joined 10/20/2018
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I really like this card but remain slightly skeptical about how strong it will actually turn out to be. I'd imagine it'll see play at least in Standard Highlander decks.

    It's also fun to watch how some think it's going to be better in Mage decks due to the more playable Spell Damage minions they have access to and some are backing up Shaman due to the natural 1/4 chance to get the correct Totem. My vote in slightly on the Mages' side.

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2245 2630 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Despicable Dreadlord saw play, and this looks pretty much like an upgradable version of that. Mage has gotten quite a bit of Spell Damage recently (good ones too), and Shamans always have Wrath of Air Totem.

    I say it seems like it could be pretty good.

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  • JFK's Avatar
    Curious Pair 1070 621 Posts Joined 07/31/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    To be fair, each class has spell damage synergy and this is a great card in either class, however it's probably just being slotted into highlander if token decks are popular and that will be the last we hear of it.

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  • Guenh's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 725 633 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    This card is solid and ofc remember Despicable Dreadlord. The effect is strong enough to be playable but i wonder if we can use the spell power to buff the effect with consistency (probably not imho)

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  • linkinboy0's Avatar
    Headmaster 1235 503 Posts Joined 07/07/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I'll have to wait and see how good it actually is

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  • SavageDrago's Avatar
    300 150 Posts Joined 05/07/2020
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Mage nowdays won't play for the board, and 1 dmg to everything won't clear much. Could be useful on Shaman if you try the +spell damage route, but then, you can't rely on the whole evolve mechanic. I think it's another no-go legendary.

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  • UVE's Avatar
    1180 832 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    What spell damage have shaman? Just Lady Vashj? The totem?

     

    Mage have more SD, but have better aoe cards too...

     

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    Squirtle 1110 1032 Posts Joined 03/22/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

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  • Sparkinarius's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 715 471 Posts Joined 07/18/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Of course the comparison is made with Despicable Dreadlord, but I think there is some context missing for what made Dreadlord competitive. In Dreadlord's time, it mainly saw play in Zoolock as a way to counter a very prominent archetype at the time: Dude/Odd Paladin. While Ras Frostwhisper certainly has its use with the prominence of lackeys in standard, I can only see him going into tempo-based decks in either class, just like how Dreadlord mainly saw play.

    I think Mage has more use for him than Shaman as Shaman has other more synergistic 5-cost plays like Totem Goliath and Shield of Galakrond. Maybe in a Burn Shaman to utilize the spell damage upside, but Burn Shaman cares more about using spell damage to go face with cheap burn rather than a minion that doesn't go face well. Might as well just run Cumulo-Maximus instead.

    For Mage, I'm skeptical of how consistent the spell damage package and how much spell damage you can keep on the board. Yes there is Mozaki, Master Duelist, but she's a one-of in your deck.

    Overall, I don't think Ras Frostwhisper will see consistent play in either class as he is low impact at a base and requires too much inconsistent support to increase his power.

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  • slychd's Avatar
    Sparklepony 1175 484 Posts Joined 05/30/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Probably better for mage, but shaman might find it useful if they already have a spell damage totem up.

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  • Valord's Avatar
    465 281 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Seems better in Shaman with its Hero Power and the new weapon they got.

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  • MatwanBR's Avatar
    195 34 Posts Joined 07/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Has pottential,but i dont know if will see play

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  • Fisguinho's Avatar
    The Raven 1190 411 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Nice card, if you can play spell dmg cards it becomes a reliable aoe

    All hail the banshee queen.

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  • Janusi's Avatar
    Face Collector 595 225 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Shaman might actually be able to make better use of this than Mage, they can hero power some spell damage. But this is a good card, I think. Despicable Dreadlord only had 5 health and could survive a turn.

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  • Safiron's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 620 156 Posts Joined 07/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Awesome card. Too expensive for a removal.

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  • theo333's Avatar
    Outlandish Rager 975 876 Posts Joined 03/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Control Mage gets some support but your Spell Damage better be cheap and durable.

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  • ChocolateChipCooke's Avatar
    Unicorn Reveler 1160 337 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I am super excited to play with this card! I love spell damage synergies, and I love that this enables both Shaman and Mage spell damage decks.

    This card also seems solid since it damages all enemies and can scale. Despicable Dreadlord is a solid card, and Ras is even better.

    Looking forward to trying him out in Odd Shaman and some kind of spell damage Mage in Standard.

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  • SilverWolf's Avatar
    Tauren Chieftain Addict 990 1085 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    With some deck building Ras Frostwhisper will make a viable otk deck

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  • Samzy's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 370 191 Posts Joined 05/31/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Very powerful effect that hopefully is reliable enough in mage.

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  • Alfi's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 1790 1375 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Like... ok

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  • FaytFFX's Avatar
    405 191 Posts Joined 12/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Throw this in wild for maximum value. :D

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  • shaveyou's Avatar
    415 198 Posts Joined 06/08/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I really don't think this is going to cut it in standard, mainly because I have little faith in spell damage mage in standard. In wild however, it's a different matter, with a lot more support. I've been playing with a spell damage mage in wild looking to see what support it needs, and what it's going to get, and this is a definite addition to that deck. Whether that deck can get to the power level of Secret Mage or Quest Mage is another matter though.

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  • Thonson's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 1740 1724 Posts Joined 03/24/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Hello, Spell Damage Mage!  Spell Damage Shaman... I'll talk to you later.  I'm busy right now.

    Quick!  Someone give me something clever to write here.

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  • Caro's Avatar
    Draconic Rager 2215 2495 Posts Joined 03/12/2020
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Wrath of Air Totem just got a whole lot more deadly...

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  • Draketh's Avatar
    Darkmaster 1565 1395 Posts Joined 04/02/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    This card has great potential. It'll be an auto-include in Spell Damage based decks.

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  • ShadowsOfSense's Avatar
    1500 1111 Posts Joined 10/23/2018
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Man, the more I look at all these Spell Damage cards again the more interested I become. This seems solid even without Spell Damage, so with it I'm intrigued.

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