New Rogue Spell - Plagiarize

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A new Common Rogue Spell, Plagiarize, has been revealed!

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  • Arthas's Avatar
    Robot Black Lotus 1265 5754 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    A new Common Rogue Spell, Plagiarize, has been revealed!

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  • clawz161's Avatar
    The Undying 825 827 Posts Joined 07/16/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    "Just don't play anything lol"

    Living like that.

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    that could be very relevant for Quest Rogue (and just in general of course).

    Sure, you can't guarantee it will be useful, but if you get lucky (or accurately predict what your opponent is going to do) you can easily get massive progress on your quest with just one card (or just finish it entirely)

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1585 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I play a trap card!

    I hero power and EMOTE!

    gg

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  • BloodMefist's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 850 804 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Happy to see that they are continuing Secret Rogue support and are willing to make guaranteed triggers like Competitive Spirit again.  It's a bit too tricky to play since you're not always going to get something that you want, but it's an interesting tool to work around with.

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  • Almaniarra's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 950 1471 Posts Joined 03/21/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I wish Rogue shares dual class with Hunter and gets a dual class secret but at least there is one secret for her isn't it ? :)

    Unpopular Opinion Incarnate

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Just to clarify, this does trigger if your opponent doesn't play any cards, right? I am not sure if that is inconsistent with other secrets or not because usually if the reward isn't able to trigger, the secret stays dormant. 

    Anyway I think this will see play in any rogue deck that needs some card advantage. The only problem is most rogue decks aren't looking for more card advantage. Maybe in a burgle rogue, but aside from that I don't think it is worth it.

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • frosthearth's Avatar
    655 585 Posts Joined 03/18/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I think this won't trigger if your opponent doesn't play anything

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  • NegativeNemsy's Avatar
    405 206 Posts Joined 07/10/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago
    Quote From KANSAS

    Just to clarify, this does trigger if your opponent doesn't play any cards, right? I am not sure if that is inconsistent with other secrets or not because usually if the reward isn't able to trigger, the secret stays dormant. 

    Anyway I think this will see play in any rogue deck that needs some card advantage. The only problem is most rogue decks aren't looking for more card advantage. Maybe in a burgle rogue, but aside from that I don't think it is worth it.

    My guess is it works like Competitive Spirit.  The opponent would have to play at least play 1 card to activate it otherwise it seems useless.  I'm not sure though.

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  • economicaooc's Avatar
    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    You could use this in a togwaggle deck, but if your opponent knew what you were doing they would just wait a turn.

    In most cases, this card's power will be inversely proportional to how popular it is.

    As always, copying enemy cards is an unreliable strategy.

    This post is discussing the wild format.

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2245 2629 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I was not expecting to get a Rogue Secret in this set, but it's actually really nice since it means they're willing to keep pushing Secret Rogue.

    Logically, it should work like Competitive Spirit in that it won't trigger if your opponent doesn't play any cards (similar to how Competitive Spirit doesn't trigger if you control no minions at the start of your turn). In the event that they do play nothing to play around the Secret, then... they played nothing and basically skipped an opportunity to play any cards, which is good for you since that will put you ahead in the game.

    If your opponent only plays 1 card, it's not too great. If they play more than 1 card though, then it's actually pretty good. It's also really difficult to play around since it's really hard to tell when it's actually out on the field. It might be good in Secret Rogue, although maybe they might just prefer Dirty Tricks instead. Solid 3 star card with potential to be better.

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  • DarkFrostX's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 830 1229 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    "He can't see us if we don't move" - Dr Grant.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1890 5543 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    This is perhaps the weirdest secret in hearthstone currently.

    Its probably a discover spell rather than something you'd purposefully drop into your deck. The best classes that play more than 1 card per turn, of which rogue can find a use for, would be mage and ironically rogue itself.

    Its weakness is that the cards you get doesn't get discounted so its like 2 mana resource, of which Dirty Tricks is very likely just better. Worse still, your opponent will have an option to mill your cards by playing a bunch of useless stuff, making it awkward to play both galakrond and togwaggle.

    But since against both rogue and mage this card is excellent there might yet be a place for it somewhere down the line.

     

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  • JackJimson's Avatar
    670 673 Posts Joined 11/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    This is going to be an annoying secret to play around.

    Only counter play is play a card that is relevant to you not your opponent.

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Interesting!

    Annoying to play around :) 

    Challenge me ... when you're ready to duel a god!

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  • Brandon's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1350 2486 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    WOW, now this is a fun card! i like it. Good for quest rogue, and it makes the opponent afraid of playing anything. This secret is also really good on turns you can predict that your opponent is going to do a big swing turn, and if they still play it, you can take those cards and do a big swing turn of your own. This card will certainly see play in secret rogue. (or in secret rogue packages) And obviously quest rogue, and as someone who loves thief rogue: It will be awesome.

    RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.

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  • Vandaren's Avatar
    620 636 Posts Joined 06/05/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Oh, the mind games. At the right turn you can get the right card from your opponent. And it support burglar, too. I like it.

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  • Psymon's Avatar
    Red Riding Hood 1505 371 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I love how tasty standard Rogue secrets are. Is like beneficing (and tricking) the turn of your opponent and how he played it giving you a huge tempo in comparison.

    Xbox gamertag - Psymonjet

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  • Firenza's Avatar
    550 348 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    If that's how it works then it's a potential Time Warp. Take another turn.

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  • Emptyness's Avatar
    Supporter 520 525 Posts Joined 03/16/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Diluting the rogue secret pool makes it harder to play around. I would include 1 of this in a secret galakrond rogue for 1 of the 2x Dirty Tricks I currently have for example. 

    “If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas.” ― George Bernard Shaw

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  • Pezman's Avatar
    Staff Writer 2235 2226 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Wow, love this concept. Like most good cards, it can be great or terrible, depending on circumstances. But you better play it with other secrets, or it will be easy to play around!

    "Be excellent to each other." -Bill and Ted

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  • JFK's Avatar
    Curious Pair 1070 621 Posts Joined 07/31/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    So does this mean secrets will become rogue's identity now? Fun fact - early in hearthstone's design, rogues were intended to have secrets, but instead they were given to paladin because it "lacked a class identity". Seven years later, the problem is still here.

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  • PLANETCRUNCH's Avatar
    E.V.I.L. Dragon 820 1248 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Due to the short pool of secrets for Rogue in standard, it's easy to play around them to reduce their effectiveness. 

    Unless you destroy this secret, there is no way to play around it, however, but that doesn't make it the most powerful secret, but a secret you have to plan ahead when to play it.

    Because you'll want to maximize the value of this card, you'll need to consider the deck your opponents playing. 

    If they're playing control, they might only play one powerful card per turn. If playing miracle they may play several cards in a turn. You'll need to decide if you want that one powerful card or if your hand size is small enough to take the combo they just played from them.

    In the Quest rogue this card can be used as an additional means to accomplish the quest. Against Galakrond Rogue if can be used to get their Galakrond and any of the 1 mana cards they've played that turn. 

    It's a strong secret but it requires a lot of decision making on the players part to maximize it's potential. Strong, but not broken.

     

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  • Guenh's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 725 633 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Strong effect but enemy can play around it. The positive note is that Plagiarize can force a bad turn for the opponent.

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  • Koetti's Avatar
    1095 863 Posts Joined 11/21/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Really great for your Opponents Swing/Combo.

    „Hey pretty neat Kael'thas Turn! Let me try it!"

    Also, I like how Rogue Secrets play little Mindgames. Imagine your Opponent checks forDirty Tricks and Ambush, and is afraid to trade into your Minion because of Bamboozle, just to find out that they played suboptimaly and give you Cards.

     

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  • FaytFFX's Avatar
    405 191 Posts Joined 12/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Favorite Secret to date. :D

    Thanks to denial, I'm immortal.

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  • Lemushki's Avatar
    Squirtle 1110 1031 Posts Joined 03/22/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    FUN card, not that good I think

    Lemushki - The one and only since the 2006 rebranding.

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  • linkinboy0's Avatar
    Headmaster 1235 503 Posts Joined 07/07/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I love this secret and the power it will bring

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  • Valord's Avatar
    465 281 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Love the flavor, seems decent looking to play around with.

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  • slychd's Avatar
    Sparklepony 1175 484 Posts Joined 05/30/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I like this. I need to brush up on what secret techs are available in standard at the moment.

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  • Horus's Avatar
    Detective Pikachu 2565 3343 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago
    Quote From  Arthas Horus

    A new Common Rogue Spell, Plagiarize, has been revealed!

    Plagiarize Card Image

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    too meta ?

    Struggle with Heroic Galakrond's Awakening? I got your back : 

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  • Fisguinho's Avatar
    The Raven 1190 411 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Looks like a great secret and it can be used if you know the opponent will have to play something you want next turn

    All hail the banshee queen.

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  • Janusi's Avatar
    Face Collector 595 225 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Looks like a good secret, glad they keep supporting Rogue secrets.

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  • Erodos's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 945 1019 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    This has potential to be amazing, but it can also highroll real bad. I think it might replace a Dirty Tricks in secret rogue.

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  • ChocolateChipCooke's Avatar
    Unicorn Reveler 1160 337 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    This card seems absurdly strong...

    At a low level, this won't seem too strong because when it's played matters a lot. I expect the pros will use this as a counter win condition tool, especially against combo/control oriented decks.

    Regardless, I expect this to see play everywhere, and it should be interesting where it ends up seeing the most play.

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  • Elfensilver's Avatar
    595 663 Posts Joined 03/14/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    In any aggro or quest rogue, this is a great card. If you play fast and dirty, and run out of cards (which does happen for anyrogue not running Togwaggle or Galakrond) this is mostly a guaranteed refill- at worst, you get one expensive card, at best you get a lot of cheap spells which you can also use. This seems strictly better than Clever Disguise. Most random class cards are worse than the cards your opponent includes in their deck. This could work wonders in a fast quest rogue, especially too encourage bad play, or get a cheap refill.

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  • Safiron's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 620 156 Posts Joined 07/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Hard to play around while trying to play around other secrets. OP card for low ranks.

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  • theo333's Avatar
    Outlandish Rager 975 876 Posts Joined 03/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Warlock can have fun with Curse of Rafaam Card Image

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  • SavageDrago's Avatar
    300 150 Posts Joined 05/07/2020
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Nice against cassino Mage. But then again, by the time you get all those sweet spells, you're dead or very close to. And no [Hearthstone Card (Sorcere's Apprentice) Not Found] to you, filthy Rogue! Unless you copy one too...

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  • Samzy's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 370 191 Posts Joined 05/31/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Very easy to play around when they know what it is, but if they try a minion and a spell for the other two rogue secrets then you get at least two cards from this.

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  • Sparkinarius's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 715 471 Posts Joined 07/18/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I think this will mostly feel worse than Dirty Tricks as you'd rather have 2 cards from your deck that fit your game plan instead of cards that your opponent plays in which they control what they are and how many you get. This does work well with Bazaar Burglary and is probably the only deck this will be effective in.

    For glory, honor, and gold!

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  • Meteorite12's Avatar
    670 696 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Seems decent, though it’s not as strong as it could be given that decks have moved away from being just strong cards and are more synergistic than in the past. There’s always that chance you’ll get a card useless to your class (though if enough cards like this are printed I guess that doesn’t really matter does it)

    Who needs consistency when you could have fun?

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  • Alfi's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 1790 1375 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    At least they added a secret for Rogue

    -=alfi=-

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  • SilverWolf's Avatar
    Tauren Chieftain Addict 990 1085 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Murozond is that you?

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  • Thonson's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 1740 1722 Posts Joined 03/24/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I like the idea of more than just three Rogue secrets being in Standard at one time.  I kind of want to see them do one oin the next expansion as well.  Then no more for another year or two.  But this one here is great!

    Quick!  Someone give me something clever to write here.

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  • UVE's Avatar
    1180 832 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Fun and original card. I love it. But i think that doesn't fits in constructed decks.

    By The Holy Light!

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  • Caro's Avatar
    Draconic Rager 2215 2493 Posts Joined 03/12/2020
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Your opponent needs to play something eventually or they just lose. At least you're guaranteed 1 card, at most, you get a bunch of aggro cards you just got from your opponent 

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  • ShadowsOfSense's Avatar
    1500 1111 Posts Joined 10/23/2018
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I'm gonna be honest, I wasn't expecting a new Secret for Rogue. I love that they've decided to keep adding them - perhaps a hint to a rework of their Classic set in the future? Maybe Paladin can drop their Secrets too?

    Welcome to the site!

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  • GoliathTheDwarf's Avatar
    980 667 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I don't know how useful this will be for ranked, but I love playing thief rogue for fun and this looks to be a great way to merge it with secret synergy. 

    Official Lorekeeper and Spinner of Tavern Tales

     

     

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  • Joe45's Avatar
    350 52 Posts Joined 06/01/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Good secret, will at least force your opponent to slow down to play around it.

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  • Draketh's Avatar
    Darkmaster 1565 1395 Posts Joined 04/02/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    This can be insane in the late game, and it's quite hard to play around.

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