First Day Of School - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

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Competition Theme: First Day Of School

It's the first day of school! You're going to need to get to grips with the absolute basics of your class, so let's start with a simple assignment.

  • You must create a 1-Cost Common Class minion
    • To be clear: You must create a minion that costs (1), is Common, and is a Class card (not Neutral)
  • Your card cannot be a Dual Class card
    • It's the first day of school, that's way too advanced! Maybe wait a week.

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  • Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Aug 31 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Sep 5 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Sep 5 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Sep 6 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Sep 6 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Sep 7 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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  • ShadowsOfSense's Avatar
    1500 1111 Posts Joined 10/23/2018
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago


    Competition Theme: First Day Of School

    It's the first day of school! You're going to need to get to grips with the absolute basics of your class, so let's start with a simple assignment.

    • You must create a 1-Cost Common Class minion
      • To be clear: You must create a minion that costs (1), is Common, and is a Class card (not Neutral)
    • Your card cannot be a Dual Class card
      • It's the first day of school, that's way too advanced! Maybe wait a week.

    Welcome back everyone! We're easing in slowly with a nice simple competition this time - but even the simplest prompts can be tricky to master.

    As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.


    Competition Phases

    Here are the phases of this card design competition

    • Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Aug 31 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Sep 5 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Sep 5 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Sep 6 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Sep 6 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Sep 7 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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    Welcome to the site!

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2245 2628 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    New season, let's go!

    She's training to become a Druid, although she still hasn't mastered the shifting part.

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  • BloodMefist's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 850 804 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Hell yeah! Hyped for the new season!  Taking some advice from KANSAS' suggestion thread, I'll try only showing one card at a time.

    I wanted to further push Zoo/Tempo Deathrattle Priest since I was dissapointed that neither took off despite all the support they got.  I enjoy the flavor of a student coming across the real deal with Scholomance and will likely try to continue iterating on the theme if the current effect isn't to people's liking.  The flavor of the effect is a bit off, but the idea is that the student found out the secrets of Raise Dead that the school was hiding.  I was also somewhat dissapointed with how boring Frazzled Freshman was and wanted to make something more interesting.

    I'm looking forward to how everyone else takes this weeks contest theme!

     

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Hooray! New season!

    Do you think the ability is too much? Is the flavor good enough?

    @Demonxz95, I really like it. Usually that ability is only on Legendaries, so it feels a bit weird. But Murmuring Elemental exists, so that argument isn't really valid. 

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2245 2628 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From KANSAS

    Hooray! New season!

    Do you think the ability is too much? Is the flavor good enough?

    @Demonxz95, I really like it. Usually that ability is only on Legendaries, so it feels a bit weird. But Murmuring Elemental exists, so that argument isn't really valid. 

    Hey, thanks. I'm already super excited for the season.

    If I understand the flavor right, you hit something and if it kills it, you feast on it? Specifically "it" being the fish? A 1 mana 1/3 that deals 1 damage is particularly strong, although it's not outrageous compared to other 1 mana 1/3s that exist and the 2 extra Health is conditional, so I'm willing to say that it's balanced.

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  • linkblade91's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1700 2775 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Yay for a new season :)

    Witchwood Apple. I tried to capture two different things here: she's a horticulture teacher so there's bound to be some food involved, and there's the whole "give an apple to your teacher" vibe. Maybe we can reinvigorate the Hand Druid.

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2245 2628 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From linkblade91

    Yay for a new season :)

    Witchwood Apple. I tried to capture two different things here: she's a horticulture teacher so there's bound to be some food involved, and there's the whole "give an apple to your teacher" vibe. Maybe we can reinvigorate the Hand Druid.

    That's a word I've never heard before.

    I will say it may be slightly weird for a card to generate something at a time when the generated card in question would be Wild only since examples don't really exist. Ball of Spiders was able to generate Webspinners after Naxxramas rotated out, although the card was made before yearly rotations existed.

    Otherwise though, it looks good and you've got the flavor nailed.

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  • R's Avatar
    Design Champion 1000 743 Posts Joined 04/23/2020
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Accursed Pupil

    When exploring fel, don't read aloud text written in Eredun.

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  • grumpymonk's Avatar
    360 137 Posts Joined 04/02/2020
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    So excited for a new season!

    Demon hunters have a lot of energy, but they could use some improvements in technique.

     

    Demonxz95

    I like it.  It's possible to make it 2 health, since it only works with a specific subset of cards and you can't take advantage of the effect on turn 1.  It reminds me of Blackjack Stunner in a weird way.

    BloodMefist

    It feels weird that it can keep giving copies of itself if it's the only minion that died.  I also think it makes it harder to build-around since it can get your opponent's stuff, making more a value card like Disciple of Galakrond rather than Raise Dead.

    KANSAS

    Card and design are solid.  Admittedly, the art feels more Uldum than Un'goro to me. Also, there's a comma is missing between 'dies' and 'gain'.

    linkblade91

    Love the flavor!  Would probably struggle to find a home in standard but it could work in wild.

    R

    I think it would be more exciting if the card discovered any Warlock spell, not just basic and classic. The pool is small and it feels bad to be offered Sacrificial Pact and Sense Demons all the time.

     

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  • Cg8889's Avatar
    Design Finalist 315 72 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Obvious synergy with Flesh Giant but can also work in Quest Warlock to fetch the Malygos  or other top end of your deck. 

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  • frosthearth's Avatar
    655 585 Posts Joined 03/18/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Thought I might give one of these a go. The idea behind the flavor is that you as a mage teach a spell to a class of young apprentices and the ace apprentice is the first one to learn it, showing you her exam results by adding the spell to your hand. Since this cannot generate you a spell if played on its own but the spell is targeted rather than random, the card's stats are no better than Babbling Book. Compared to Diligent Notetaker, I don't think the effect should be too strong for 1 less mana.

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  • R's Avatar
    Design Champion 1000 743 Posts Joined 04/23/2020
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Demonxz95 - Very very cool design, but I think that it should cost at least 2 mana.

    BloodMefist - She can most likely return herself to her hand with her death throat. Interesting.

    KANSAS - Good card, pretty strong at the beginning of the game.

    linkblade91 - Maybe if the hand druid was viable.

    grumpymonk - Good "board clear" for DH with weapons.

    Cg8889 - I do not know. 1 mana card that takes a "specific" card.

    frosthearth - Maybe too strong for 1 mana because it gives not a random card, but the last card

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  • Hordaki's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 650 264 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Oh, it feels good to be back.

    She'll help you learn how to Spellburst! Good for draws and Libram decks.

    Feedback time:

    Demonxz95: I like it, but I feel like that would make more sense at 2 mana.

    BloodMefist: Fits with Scholomance mechanics and good effect, I like it. Although I'd either come up with a more serious name or find sillier artwork, there's some dissonance in the flavor there.

    KANSAS: I don't know, it seems too powerful and doesn't feel very Shaman-y.

    linkblade91: Interesting. Witchwood Apple might make more sense now with the increased Treant support.

    R: I'm not feeling it, unless it was a dual-class card it doesn't make sense for one class to get cards from another. Also it seems weird to limit it to just the basic and classic sets.

    grumpymonk: I really like the flavor of it, but maybe it should be a Battlecry or Outcast effect for one turn, since this could be VERY powerful if used with the right cards.

    Cg8889: I think it works, just rephrase it to "the highest Cost minion" to bring it in line with Expired Merchant.

    frosthearth: It's pretty powerful, maybe change it to just a spell you played this turn instead of the last spell to make it a bit trickier to play and less consistent.

          -Hordaki (rhymes with Mordecai)

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2245 2628 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From R

    Demonxz95 - Very very cool design, but I think that it should cost at least 2 mana.

     

    Quote From Hordaki

    Demonxz95: I like it, but I feel like that would make more sense at 2 mana.

    Unfortunately, this would disqualify the card, so I can't do this.

    R - A decent card balanced by the fact that Warlock spells are not really the greatest and randomly generating them (even through Discover) is weaker than something like Mage for instance. Basic and Classic should both be capitalized though and I think the cross-Discovering is a bit weird since it's just a class card that Discovers a card from a different class. It's not like Wand Thief which is a dual-class card that Discovers a card from one of its classes and allows the other to benefit from Burgle synergy, and tri-class cards from MSoG which Discover from one of the three classes. I feel like it could just be a Warlock card that Discovers a spell. I don't feel like Mage would want to generate Warlock spells very much.

    Hordaki - It's nice to see you make that "tutor" joke with drawing when Team 5 missed that opportunity (dammit Wretched Tutor). At first glance, it doesn't look blatantly Paladin-y, but it's not too bad in the slightest. The effect is pretty decent and also fits well with High Abbess Alura both flavorfully and mechanically.

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  • Conduit's Avatar
    Eldritch Horror 420 138 Posts Joined 05/31/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    That fresh Hearthcards smell... it's good to be back! A simple one to start us off, but I'm still thinking up some alternate ideas...

    Quick run of feedback:

    Demonxz - I really like this one. It's a good effect and fits well thematically.

    Bloodmefist - No issues with this one either!

    KANSAS - I do like this one, but a part of me feels it could be better as a rare? It should be fine though.

    linkblade - This one is my favourite so far, but then again I love some Treants, so I'm a tad biased...

    R - Really cool effect... but a similar issue to KANSAS where it's a bit *too* special. Still very good though.

    grumpymonk - This card is honestly too powerful. Not necessarily a bad thing, but a cheap card with a strong effect AND good stats? It needs a slight tone-down.

    cg - I don't really know how to feel about this one... it feels too strong to be a common no matter which way you spin it.

    frosthearth - It's just OK. I'm not particularly fond of it, but it's not bad.

    Hordaki - Very well-done card and one that I could easily see printed. Also, I see what you did with the name ;)

     

     

     

    :)

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar
    Toybox Tactician 1895 2309 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    New season, woohoo!

    Here's my first idea:

    What do you think?

    Feedback:

    Hordaki

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    Super cool card, great synergies with the current decks. I think you could buff the stats a little.

    frosthearth

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    I like the flavor very much, make sure to add the description to your entry. The one thing that might cost you a star from me is the background of the art.

    Cg8889

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    Sorry, I'm not convinced. The art and the name would be better fitting for a spell. I also think the wording should be "… from your deck." I'm not sure about this, though.

    grumpymonk

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    Cool idea, but the effect might be too strong on a 1 drop. Maybe you could give it another effect, like a permanent attack buff by 1?

    R

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    Pretty much what the others said already. This should be a warlock card, but then it might be too close to Twisted Knowledge. You probably should would rework this.

    linkblade91

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    I like the flavor, but as the others already pointed out, it's really weird to generate a card from a wild set. I don't think this should be a thing.

    KANSAS

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    Great flavor, that's a 5 star card in my books!

    BloodMefist

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    I don't like the art very much, it feels too dark for Hearthstone. The effect is certainly interesting and fits Priest's identity. Nice idea!

    Demonxz95

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    Nice card, very flavorful. The one thing I don't like about it is that you would never ever play it on turn 1. It's a combo only card that probably wouldn't see play until turn 3 with Wrath.

    Edit: Conduit

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    Interesting idea to put Beasts in Demon Hunter. It doesn't support existing archetypes very much as far as I know and sadly the art has no background. All in all it's an okay-ish card in my books.

    I notice I am confused. Something I believe isn't true. How do I know what I think I know?
    Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres, hpmor.com

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  • Elfensilver's Avatar
    595 663 Posts Joined 03/14/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Nice to be back. I made a simple card, a callback to the ogres that we didn't get since Rastahkan. But I fear it is too simple, or not good enough, since it can also attack friendly characters, for only a +1 from [Hearthstone Card (Battlemage) Not Found].  Maybe add taunt? Or scrap the design alltogether? What do you think?

    Will give feedback soon.

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  • MrRhapsody's Avatar
    Child of the Night 800 135 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Round 2, FIGHT!

    Before explaining the card, let me share something really quickly. I'm right now creating a whole custom expansion, and i was pretty sure that at least 1 out of the 54 cards i've already made would fit the theme, and turns out, there is one card that fits! But sadly, it uses the exclusive keyword of the expansion, so i can't submit it... i got a little pissed, won't lie, but the show must continue.

    Back to the card, the idea is to represent a black cat that brings bad luck to you, but since he's your pet, he throws the bad luck to your opponent. I was thinking of  making it a deathrattle to add extra flavour, but i want a second opinion, so share your thoughts with the class, NOW! Feedback later as always.

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    And btw, here's the card i was talking about, i won't give more spoilers, in time you know what the keyword means

    Do you also like Elden Ring? Then you should check out my Elden Ring inspired Duels Heroes!

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  • thepowrofcheese's Avatar
    210 108 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Yay, card contests! My first idea, and I’ll give some feedback later. Hope this isn’t too complicated for a Common 1-drop.

    I make bad custom Hearthstone cards sometimes.

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  • Elfensilver's Avatar
    595 663 Posts Joined 03/14/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Feedback!

    @Demonxz95

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    Inexperienced Shifter: A conditional Battlecry card which you’ll never play at turn 1, this fits druid to a T. It is situational strong -Oasis Surger or Malfurion come to mind- but only in the lategame. It also fits the student flavor. I’d maybe even add a health, to make it somewhat playable in the early game in desperate situations. In the late game there isn’t really a difference between 1/1 and 1/2.

    @BloodMefist

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    Nosy Newbie: A great flavor, and fits thematically especially because of Raise Dead.  While you’re right and the flavor is kinda off – did he find a dead body and dragged it to his dorm room?- you could change that to adding a random warlock spell to your hand.

    @KANSAS

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    While I guess that the card is mostly fair, it is a bit bland and doesn’t fit Scholamance. I really can’t say what to change to make it fit- maybe name and picture? It does fit shaman, since murloc+battlecry, maybe it’s even a bit too strong with the quest.

    @linkblade91

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    Horticulture Teacher: 1/3 add a weak 2mana card to you hand, which is rotated out. Seems fair in a weak way. I’m not really a fan since I see no deck to play it, and teachers as 1mana cards are weird too. Since I’m not an English native speaker: what does “give an apple to your teacher” mean?

    @R

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    Accursed Pupil: While basic and classic rooms are mostly weaker than expansion cards, warlock cards are pretty good. And while mage/warlock is a somewhat natural pairing (corrupting power and all that), mage has no ways to get other classes’ cards as off yet. And discovering a card on a 2/1 is stronger than any other 1 mana get something minion.  This would be a fair 2 cost card, and I do not see a way to scale it down to 1 cost while keeping the text.

    @grumpymonk

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    Glaive Trainer: Good statline, and a great upside. Yes, powercreep  and DH’s superiority are a thing, but this is too much. It should be a rare (which is not allowed, I know), or a 1/1, or a 1/2 with the effect as a battlecry.

    @Cv8889

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    Dark Arts Sacrifice:  Ancient Harbinger powercreep! No, I quite like this card. A new student who’s a Dark Arts Sacrifice is a great idea, and the effect captures that perfectly. Also, warlocks’ strength is card dras, and some tutoring is not bad, especially since you can’t draw that card later with the quest-heropower, so it doesn’t allow to crazy sheningans.

    @frosthearth

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    Ace Apprentice: beautiful art, nice card. Seems good, especially in highlander mage, while also having little impact on the board. Really strong!  I would put it in all mage decks.

    @Hordaki

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    Tiny Tutor: She’s so cute! 1 mana add a random x to your hand is quite usual, given Spellburst this evens out the draw.

    @Conduit

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    Fel Kitten- I firstly thought this was too strong, but DH has virtually no beasts. So it is somewhat fair? Maybe change the name to Fel Familiar, alliterations are great.

    @anchorm4n

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    Archwitch’s Apprentice: Great fit for Archwitch Willow, but somewhat to strong. Full 1mana stats with an upside is a bit too much.

    @MrRhapsody

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    Luck Shifter: Interesting idea, but too complicated for a common.  But it’s a great fit of class, stats and idea (the picture is too grumpy thought).

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Responding to feedback:

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    Quote From grumpymonk
    Card and design are solid.  Admittedly, the art feels more Uldum than Un'goro to me. Also, there's a comma is missing between 'dies' and 'gain'.

    I wasn't really too sure about the set symbol, and I also wasn't sure if there was supposed to be a comma there or not. Thanks for the feedback, I will change both of those things.

    Quote From Hordaki
    I don't know, it seems too powerful and doesn't feel very Shaman-y.

    This has +2 Health from Elven Archer but it is also conditional and a class card, so I think it is fine. As for flavor, it is a murloc and a battlecry card. Granted it doesn't have much Shaman flavor beyond that, but I don't really know what to do about that.

    Quote From Conduit
    I do like this one, but a part of me feels it could be better as a rare? It should be fine though.

    My initial impulse was to make it a rare, but alas that is impossible. I do think it is fine though since Mortal Coil is a basic card.

    Quote From Elfensilver
    While I guess that the card is mostly fair, it is a bit bland and doesn’t fit Scholamance. I really can’t say what to change to make it fit- maybe name and picture? It does fit shaman, since murloc+battlecry, maybe it’s even a bit too strong with the quest.

    (I was afraid this might happen) We don't have to make Scholomance themed cards. We just have to make common, class 1-cost cards.

    Feedback:

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    Bloodmefist: I really like it. The resurrect mechanic is cool, albeit super annoying, but when it is attached to a small minion then now you have a dud minion in your resurrect pool, making it less frustrating. 5-stars.

    Linkblade91: I love it! I am a big fan of small cards that add more cards to your hand. I might reduce the Health to 2 though since it is providing so much value.

    R: It feels a bit weird having this in the same set as Wand Thief (Though I am willing to ignore that). I really like the flavor of the student being corrupted and using dark magic. I do think it should be a 1/1. Look at the aforementioned Wand Thief, it is a 1 mana card available to Mage that discovers a spell and it is a 1/2. However, this is a Battlecry and that is a Combo, so 1/1 makes sense to me.

    grumpymonk: I really like it. However making your Hero Power a Shooting Star may be a bit much. I would change it to a 1/2 just to be safe.

    Cg8889: I really like the ability, but I would change the name since "Dark Arts Sacrifice" feels like the name of a spell. You could change it to something like "Sacrifice Victim". Also the art is slightly fuzzy. I looked a bit and couldn't find any Scholomance art that fit your card. You don't have to make your card Scholomance themed, so if you are worried about the art then you could just re-flavor it to be Old Gods or Frozen Throne or something like that. I do really really like the ability though, so definitely stick with that.

    frosthearth: The card is interesting, but it feels a bit too much like Diligent Notetaker. I would make it a deathrattle so that way you have to plan ahead of time to play the right spell, and your opponent can choose to leave it alive so that you might cast a different spell. Also, I am afraid of Miracle/Quest Mage in wild getting an easy way to copy their spells. I would hate for my opponent to play Sorcerer's Apprentice, Flamewaker, an then 8 copies of Ray of Frost.

    Hordaki: I love it. Paladins deserve more draw, and tutors are always fun to play. I don't think it is too powerful of a tutor since you have to have a spell initially to draw another one so you can't reliably draw one single spell every game. I would give it 5-stars.

    Conduit: Demon Hunters don't have beast synergy. It would be weird for them to get this one card that cares about Beasts and nothing else. Nobody would make a Beast Demon Hunter just to get this one card. You could give it to hunter and it would be fine, but I don't know what Demon Hunters would do with this.

    anchorm4n: I love tutors, but as a 1/3 I think it provides too much tempo in addition to value. You could make it a 1/1 and it would be fair.

    Elfensilver: I think you could make it say random enemy and it wouldn't be too OP. 1 mana 2/2 is fair, so 1 mana 3/2 is only slightly above average. Having your own 1-drop kill your 2-drop would feel just awful. I do really like to see the return of the "Ogre" mechanic though.

    MrRhapsody: This is really weird. How many effects in mage target random characters? There are things like Magic Missiles and Magic Missiles++, but those things already target enemies. You could change it to target a single character and the next random effect has to target that one character, but that feels like it could be an epic. I really like the theme of a black cat giving you bad luck, but this card feels like a bit too much.

    thepowerofcheese: I really like it. The flavor is strong, the card is strong, I really like the use of overload. All around great card.

     

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • ChocolateChipCooke's Avatar
    Unicorn Reveler 1160 337 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    FYI - Scholomance Academy isn't an option to select from when choosing the expansion in the pull down tab when submitting a card.

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  • MrRhapsody's Avatar
    Child of the Night 800 135 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Quote From KANSAS
    This is really weird. How many effects in mage target random characters? There are things like Magic Missiles and Magic Missiles++, but those things already target enemies.

     You don't get it, its ANY random target. Let's say you draw a Scroll of Wonder and it casts a Fireball, if you played a Luck Shifter last turn, the Fireball will target an enemy, got it? But yeah, maybe it's a little to much, i liked the "choose an enemy" suggestion, i'll think about.

    And now the feedback:

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    Demonxz: I like it a lot, but i think it would be more flavourful if it combined only the effects of minions, since the cards that actually shapeshift are Druid minions.

    BloodMefist: In general i like, except for the art and fact that it may go infinite, i'm pretty sure it wasn't your intencion, so i suggest adding "Another" after the "Add" and changing the art.

    KANSAS: Good abillity and even better flavour, loved it.

    linkblade: Nice effect but the flavour could be better. Why would the teacher give you an apple? Speacially an apple that attracts evil treants. What about making it something like a student pranking the teacher by giving a twisted apple to the teacher? (you, in this case)

    R: I don't the fact that it generates a Warlock card, even if it fits the flavour. Most spells generators from mage nowadays specifically generates a Mage spell, making a mage card that generates a warlock card fells weird. Also, the stats, cost and effect doesn't match, i suggest either make it a 2 mana 1/1 that discover a Basic Mage spell; or a 2 1/1 for warlock.

    grumpymonk: I would like it more if Odd DH wasn't a thing, but sadly it is, so i suggestion either making it a 1/1 or 1/2; or make the effect a Battlecry that only triggers once.

    Cg8889: I like it, powerful but broken, nice effect and flavour, just put the same art with a higher resolution or a completetly new one and you're good to go.

    frosthearth: Cool flavour and effect, but i'm not sure about the balance . In wild, this could be BROKEN in Quest Mage, if you could come with something that don't support it i would like your card a lot more.

    Hordaki: Very cool effect, flavour, art, name, etc. Loved it.

    Conduit: Not a fan of it. If it was half hunter half Dh i would like, but dual class is forbidden. I'll wait for your other ideas, but for now, i suggest to switch the Beast synergy with Demons.

    anchorm4n: Very similar to Hordaki's card, but with a diferent flavour and more Health. I sujest only to reduce the Health a bit, but in general i loved it too.

    Elfensilver: Loved it except for the art, change it and you're done.

    thepowerofcheese: I like it, reminds me of [Hearthstone Card (Intrepid Iniciate) Not Found] but more powerful. The balance seens on point and the effect is very flavourful, good job.

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  • BloodMefist's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 850 804 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Thanks for the feedback, everyone!  Most people seemed to like the card, so I only made minimal adjustments to it.  It can now no longer return itself if it is your only minion that died.  A lot of comments regarded the art/name, so I have two different versions that I want to run by people.  The first keeps the art but changes the name to something more fitting while the second uses a lighter art to fit the name "Nosy Newbie".  

    Feedback 

    Demonxz95:

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    I like the idea, but the flavor is a tad off for me.  I feel like getting both effects is something an advanced shifter would know how to do rather than an inexperienced one.  This could either be remedied with a name change or an updated effect to something more 'inexperienced'.

    KANSAS:

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    I think this card wins in effect and theme very well.  Powercreep on Elven Archer is fine and I think this does so in a very interesting way.

    Linkblade91:

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    I like the general idea of pushing hand and Treant Druid, but the flavor feels a bit off.  I understand the apple+teacher vibe, but it feels weird that this specifically references Witchwood Apple, which is very specifically something from the Witchwood.  I think adjusting it to add 2 Treants to the hand instead gives it a similar function while roughly calling back to the Witchwood Apple card.

    R:

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    The flavor is a bit off to me since getting spells from other classes isn't something Mage typically does.  There are also a few duds that would feel really bad to get, such as Sacrificial Pact.  I think simply making it a Warlock card would be a fine adjustment.

    Grumpy Monk:

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    The body seems too good for how strong the effect is.  This would especially cause problems in Wild where Odd DH could do 2 damage cleaves very frequently.  I think either making it a 1-use battlecry or making the stats 1/1 would be a fine change.

    Cg8889:

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    I like this card a lot.  It feels like it could work in Zoo lists to fetch Flesh Giants, Galakrond, or even Dark Pharoh Tekahn or slower decks to get the wincons faster.  The flexibility and simplicity are big wins for me.  I do think the art could be a bit less silly given the dark theme of the card though.

    frosthearth:

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    Reminds me of Diligent Notetaker, which feels a bit spooky for Mage.  It has more control and flexibility than Notetaker at the cost of a weaker body, but the stats hardly matter.  What worries me is that this could extend Freeze stalling by a lot or supply Mages with even more ridiculous card generation by playing this with Invocation.  I think either a class change or effect change are warranted.

    Hordaki:

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    Hehe, I see what you did there.  This card feels like it might push Libram decks over the edge, which could be remedied with a class change, but it's probably fine as is.  Great flavor for the card.

    Conduit:

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    Feels weird to have this as a DH card given that their Beast pool is essentially limited to Neutral cards.  Buffing health also feels a tad off for DH since they are primarily an aggressive and attack oriented class.  I think the card needs an overhaul to fit more with the DH themes.

    anchorm4n:

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    Nice to see Willow get the love that the HS team denied her.  I like the idea, but think it might be better to add a random demon instead.  It's harder to build around, but it adds the DH demon list which is very strong, and doesn't step on Willow's toes as much.  Willow wants demons in the deck and in your hand, so this card getting rid of one from the deck feels a bit bad given how few big demons Warlock currently has.

    Elfensilver:

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    I personally think the 50% chance design is something that shouldn't be pursued any further and believe the card should be completely overhauled.

    MrRhapsody:

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    I feel like the effect is too niche given how many effects are already targeted.  It also calls into question how the card interacts with something like Puzzlebox, will the first spell cast target enemies or will all the spells target enemies?  A similar question arises with Reno since interaction with passive hero powers hasn't really been a thing.

    thepowrofcheese:

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    Seems way too strong atm. Given that you could easily get a 3-drop on turn 1 with either the coin or Lightning Bloom as well as anything else you want to play is a bit much.  I like the general idea and think even changing it to a 2-cost transformation would be fine, but it's overtuned as is.

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    Senior Writer 2245 2628 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago
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    Demonxz95:

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    I like the idea, but the flavor is a tad off for me.  I feel like getting both effects is something an advanced shifter would know how to do rather than an inexperienced one.  This could either be remedied with a name change or an updated effect to something more 'inexperienced'.

    Nah.

    You see, an experienced shifter has perfect control over the two effects and is perfectly able to separate them, only combining the two together when they want to and they've learned the proper method to do so. An inexperienced shifter on the other hand hasn't properly learned how to separate the two effects yet, so they end up accidentally using both of them at the same time.

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2245 2628 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago
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    FYI - Scholomance Academy isn't an option to select from when choosing the expansion in the pull down tab when submitting a card.

    This should be fixed now.

    (Courtesy of me telling Flux that you left this comment)

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  • GoliathTheDwarf's Avatar
    980 667 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Feedback? Not used to making common cards and not sure what their power level should be.

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago
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    Feedback? Not used to making common cards and not sure what their power level should be.

    I really like the design, but I am afraid of giving druids the extra Moonfires. If you have 2 of these, 2 moonfires, and a malygos you could deal 24 damage with zero mana cheating and virtually no setup. Maybe if it dealt 2 damage instead of adding a Moonfire to your hand?

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • GoliathTheDwarf's Avatar
    980 667 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Haha, fair enough. Don't need to give them too much more amo. I was just thinking of it because Moonkin and Moonfire are tied closely together in the game and lore, but I see your point. 

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  • AngryShuckie's Avatar
    1705 1735 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago
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    New season, let's go!

    She's training to become a Druid, although she still hasn't mastered the shifting part.

    Since you cannot make it cost 2 mana, you could consider making it only affect choose one minions, since the real danger with the card is with spells. Minion choose one effects are more tame because some of the mana goes into stats, and hence getting both is a lot more reasonable for 1 mana than spells.

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    980 667 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Better?

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  • MenacingBagel's Avatar
    815 721 Posts Joined 09/24/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    I missed these now I can give no feedback and make overloaded cards again! Nah I'll give feedback it just won't be very good.

    Feedback Only for this page:

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    GoliathTheDwarf I think it looks good, like a lesser corrupted keeper or whatever his name was but instead of always getting the 2/2 body and the damage you have to chose the body or the damage.

    BloodMefist: I can't really think of anything you could improve upon. My personal preference for art is the first one since it gives the feeling of he found out about the necromantic stuff going on

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  • Conduit's Avatar
    Eldritch Horror 420 138 Posts Joined 05/31/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Thanks for the feedback! However, I might scrap the current card for something new, as I don’t really like it and the general consensus seems somewhat lukewarm....

    :)

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago
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    I missed these now I can give no feedback and make overloaded cards again! Nah I'll give feedback it just won't be very good.

     

    Interesting, it's like Weasel Tunneler + Leper Gnome. I like the concept, though I feel like in reality it wouldn't bounce around too much. If you want to lean further on the Weasel Tunneler side of the card then I would keep it as it is, but if you want to have a lot of back-and-forth damage then I would make it go into your opponent's hand, or directly onto their side of the field.

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • Nirast's Avatar
    Senior Editor Snow-Covered 910 904 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Good news: since I failed to register in time for my bachelors degree, I can participate in this week's competition :')

    Here's my first idea (with a typo I'll fix later):

    On it's own, it's a Murloc Tidehunter with reversed stats. But it can get as big as a 6/7 on a full board of Recruits. Still, I think the amount of set up required makes it balanced. It's a lot more crazy in wild, where he can get as big as a 10/11 with [Hearthstone Card (Bran Bronzebeard) Not Found], a 3/4 on 3 with 3 1/1s in Odd Pally and/or with Lost in the Jungle and Air Raid, not to mention cards like Muster for Battle and Stand Against Darkness.

    Feedback, going from newest to oldest: 

    Ardin

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    Interesting idea, doesn't seem too overpowerd. The Spellburst is too strong, since you can choose the one you need at the moment. I'd make this a 2 mana 1/2 because, as it is, you play this on 1 and have nothing to do on 2 except HP, and then the companion on 3 I just realised you can't do that because it has to be a 1-Cost. Card's still good as is.

    MenacingBagel

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    Really like the idea, this is a Weasel Tunneler that isn't completely useless for your opponent.

    GoliathTheDwarf

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    Not sure if I like this more than the Moonfire one, but this is certainly less susceptible to Goosy shenanigans than the other version. It's balanced otherwise. Shouldn't it be a Beast? Forgot how Moonkins work

    BloodMefist

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    I like the concept of the card, but I'm not crazy about either in terms of name. Not really sure what else to use, sorry.

    thepowrofcheese

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    I like the idea, but I feel it could easily be abused turn one with something like The Coin or Lightning Bloom. The overload might solve that, though. The name is also a little long imo, how about "Bad Luck Freshman"?

    MrRhapsody

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    Great card! Quick question: If I cast Dark Skies (couldn't think of a Mage effect), will only the first hit target an enemy, or the entire spell?

    Not crazy about the name, but my only suggestion for it is "Blcuk Cat". (PUNS!)

    Elfensilver

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    People would hate playing this card, and I honestly don't think the stats are good enough for the effect. Could probably get away with it being a 3/3.

    anchorm4n

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    Simple, solid card with targeted draw. I like it! If you change the name and art, you could even make it dual class with Demon Hunter.

    anchorm4n

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    … Why is this a DH card? They have 0 synergy whatsoever with beasts. It could work as a dual class if it also got buffed by Demons, or as a Hunter and/or Druid card.

    Hordaki

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    Good card with a good effect. Nice!

    frosthearth

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    Nice reload after an Evocation. Also great with Fireball and the new spell that adds 1/1s to your hand for killing your opponent over multiple turns.

    Cg8889

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    Wild would LOVE this guy. I'd make a 1/2 just so it's not killable by Mortal Coil. Name could also be improved a little, how about "sacrificial Freshman"?

    grumpymonk

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    Not sure I like this card, DH has a bunch of ways to abuse it.

    R

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    Don't really see why this discovers a Warlock spell. Can't make it Mage/Warlock either, since that's not a legal combination.

    linkblade91

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    Nice card, but I don't know how to feel about it adding cards from other expansions just like that. (yes, yes, Boom Bots and Annoy-A-Trons, but those made more sense in their context). Maybe at least explain what Witchwood Apple does in the card text. Thematically, the card's great!

    KANSAS

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    Good card! How would double Battlecry work if the the enemy is at 1 Health, would it be a 1/5?

    Demonxz95

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    [Hearthstone Card (The Murmuring Elemental) Not Found] for Choose One, really nice card!

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  • Ardin's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 605 45 Posts Joined 04/04/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    OK, here comes my idea:

    Beast Companions are Misha, Leokk and Huffer, of course.

    Alternatives I considered are:

    1 mana 2/1 - same effect

    1 mana 1/1 - Spellburst: Discover a Beast Companion.

    What do you think?

    I choose this because of the following reasons:

    1, Represents an underrepresented WoW faction - Wildhammer Dwarf. So far in Hearthstone there is only 1 collectible card that could be considered a Wildhammer - Untamed Beastmaster.

    2, It works for the possible Companion Archetype - unexplored hunter design space, one that I would like to see.

     

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    Demonxz95 - Inexperied Shifter - nice card, the art fits very well the effect and it is simple enough to be a common card. I would not change anything about it.

    BloodMefist - Nosy Newbie - An alright card, the original art looks maybe too dark for Hs. I would go with the second one.

    KANSAS - Bluegill Fisher - Hits and eats, nice flavorful and balanced, in my opinion.

    linkblade91 - Hoticulture Teacher - 1/3 that guarantees a turn 2 play is a little bit much for me. 1/2 might be more in line. Altough if you realy want to push an old archetype back (Which I approve of) it is quite possible okay.

    R - Accursed Pupil - 1 mana 2/1 unconditional Discover is definitely too strong. Some condition should be implemented. But the flavor is quite good.

    grumpymonk - Glaive Trainer - This effect should not exist as a passive on a DH 1 - drop. Maybe as a 2/1 with Battlecry for this turn only.

    Cg8889 - Dark Art Sacrifice - Already published so I do not think any feedback is necessary. My only suggestion would be a name change, which you did.

    frosthearth - Ace Apprentice - Probably balanced, but I not like the idea of more Devolving Missiles or Ray of Frost generated from this.

    Hordaki - Tiny Tutor - Already published so I do not think any feedback is necessary. Draw is something Paladin could use more. Condition balances it quite well.

    Conduit - Fel Kitten - Encourages building a different DH just as a standalone card. Nice, I like it.

    anchorm4n - Archwitch's Apprentice - 1/2 would work better I think. Especialy since Warlock already got one 1/3 in Scholomance.

    Elfensilver - Nearsighted Bully - Only wrong enemies should work well enough. Friendly possible targets make this too weak.

    MrRhapsody - Luck Shifter - Maybe a too complicated for a common. 1/3 is not a fiiting statline in my opinion.

    thepowrofcheese - Accident-Prone Apprentice - I think it is balanced, just the name seem weird to me.

    GoliathTheDwarf - Moonking Hatchling - Already published so I do not think any feedback is necessary. Nice simple and relatively strong card.

    MenacingBagel - Explosive Learner - I do not much like this design. I do not know how to adjust it to my liking though. :)

    Nirast - Silver Hand Trainer - It goes for too much for a common 1 drop I think. At minimum it is a 2/3 worth of stats. Also the should probably be then, i think. A 1/1 that buffs itself for each recruit should work just fine in my opinion.

     

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar
    Toybox Tactician 1895 2309 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Thanks for the feedback! Before I add my two cents to the new cards, I'd like to get something off my chest: I'm disappointed. Imho, we've made huge progress when it comes to giving feedback after that shoutout last season. But. The biggest part of the people I consider the pros in custom card design have been following a certain pattern since last season: they post within the first few hours of the competetion, give feedback among themselves and whoever happens to be awake (here goes the European whining again) AND have a great idea AND the time to post it and then they disappear. It's people like Linkblade and Demon that clearly have the most experience in this and honestly I'm disappointed you don't dish it out more often. It would be very much appreciated.

     

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    Ardin:

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    A really nice card, I like it! I would go with the 1 mana 2/1 version though. You can play the companion on turn 2 only with the coin and the aggressive stat line just suits hunter better. Also the name seems a bit awkward, but I can't come up with a better suggestion right now. Last but not least, you should edit the text to avoid the orphan in the last line.

    Nirast:

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    Cool card, nothing to criticize here.

    MenacingBagel:

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    I like your idea, but you should fine tune the text. Maybe make it two sentences, and to switch the order of the effects would be more intuitive imho. I also want to add that this is one of the cards that doesn't really need to be a Scholomance card. If you change the name, this you could easily be Boomsday.

    GoliathTheDwarf:

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    Nice card!

    BloodMefist:

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    Very smooth change to the effect. The second art is better but looks a bit mage-y in my eyes. Maybe you have still another piece in store?

    thepowrofcheese:

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    I like the effect, but the card might be a bit OP. Even at 1/1 it would still be playable. I'm also not very happy with the art. It doesn't look particulary shaman and there are other people who have also used it (not your fault, but maybe safe yourself some stars if you find something else).

    MrRhapsody:

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    Interesting idea. No idea how to make this better.

    Elfensilver:

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    Interesting idea. No idea how to make this better.

    I notice I am confused. Something I believe isn't true. How do I know what I think I know?
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  • Ardin's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 605 45 Posts Joined 04/04/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Thanks for your feedback.

    I too tend to like the 2/1 statline more.

    As for the name - how about a Petcaller or Novice Petcaller? It would be more flavorful, I guess.

    I'll try to enlargen the card text to have 1 more word on the line. Unique, but welcomed opinion.

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  • linkblade91's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1700 2775 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From anchorm4n

    It's people like Linkblade and Demon that clearly have the most experience in this and honestly I'm disappointed you don't dish it out more often. It would be very much appreciated.

    I can't speak for Demon of course, but I personally have had some IRL problems that have kept me from participating this week. Depression hits me harder some weeks more than others, and this is one of those weeks.

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    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1700 2775 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Here you go, as requested:

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    Ardin - I would also make it a 2/1. "Petcaller" sounds fine.

    Nirast - I think the effect and statline are fine, but it doesn't seem like a Common to me. This is at least a Rare in complexity :(

    MenacingBagel - I like Explosive Learner, but you should switch the effects around in the text: deal the damage, then shuffle.

    GoliathTheDwarf - Yes, that is better. Seems good to go.

    BloodMeFist - I prefer Horrified Apprentice's art and name; the flavor shouldn't be "lighter" in my opinion.

    thepowrofcheese - I'm worried about Coin-ing out a strong 3-mana minion turn-1, but there are numerous bad 3-drops so I guess it's okay. The 3 Health means it can easily trade into something first, and that could be a problem (since the transform will "heal" it).

    MrRhapsody - It doesn't specify when this happens, so "next" could mean multiple turns from now. I can see a FeelsBad moment where both players forget about this effect for a couple turns, and then suddenly it bites your opponent in the butt because some card four turns ago screwed them over. Not saying it's a deal-breaker, but it wouldn't be fun if that happened.

    Elfensilver - Taunt doesn't jive with the character, so I wouldn't add that. I think it's fine as-is: saying "wrong enemy" instead is probably too strong.

    anchorm4n - I think your card is perfect as-is, and I wouldn't change anything about it. I really like it.

    Conduit - Seems like a Battlegrounds-worthy card to me haha. It's pretty straight-forward, and encourages developing a board. It might be a bit on the weak side, though.

    Hordaki - My other favorite card, I think this is just fine as it is. The Paladin could really use something like this (well maybe not right now, because they're in a good place, but card draw is never unwanted).

    frosthearth - Ace Apprentice seems a bit strong, given the card is guaranteed to be the last spell you played. What if it said "random spell you played this turn"? That would keep it the same if you only played one spell, but if you rattle off a bunch now there's some chance involved.

    Cg8889 - I believe it should be formatted as "Draw the minion in your deck with the highest Cost." It's on a Deathrattle so that lack of speed certainly helps balance the card. I still wonder if it's on the strong side, given you know exactly what you're tutoring.

    grumpymonk - I like it, but it takes away from the core strength of Flamereaper. Seems a little early to print its replacement on a 1-mana Common.

    R - Basic and Classic should be capitalized. That being said, I don't know if I like it. The flavor is interesting, but should the Mage have access to cards like Siphon Soul?

    KANSAS - I would also move it to Ulduum (although where are you fishing in the middle of the desert lol?). Overall I think it's fine: I initially believed it was too good, but you explained yourself well and changed my opinion.

    Demonxz95 - I've been on the fence for a while, but I think I might have to agree with Sinti's remarks in Discord. The flavor is still there and I think the card is solid, but at the same time it seems weird that an "inexperienced shifter" is being rewarded with both outcomes when they have little to no control over their ability *shrugs* Sounds more like it should say "Your next Choose One card has its effect chosen at random" or something like that, but then you'd have to give the Shifter better stats and that creates its own problems. I think leaving it as-is is perfectly fine.

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    Toybox Tactician 1895 2309 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    @linkblade: I'm sorry to hear that and I wouldn't have chosen words so harsh if I had known the reasons for your silence. I wish you all the best. I'll send a virtual hug if you are okay with that. Thank you very much for your feedback (I did actually change the card a little by tuning it down to 1/1/2 because most people told me it was too strong).

    @Ardin: if it was my card, I would manually set new paragraphs to solve the issue. Probably like this: "Battlecry: Add a / random Beast Companion / to your hand." Typing this, I realize that maybe it should say "Beast Companion card"... that would also eliminate the orphan without altering the font size.

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  • BloodMefist's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 850 804 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    I ended up submitting Horrified Apprentice since I feel like it fits the darker side of Scholomance better.  Although some people said that the art/name is too dark, I bring up that Fleshgiant exists in the same set and has some pretty dark implications and art. 

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    MenacingBagel:

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    I like the general idea of the card, but the bouncing effect might be too complicated for a common card considering Weasel Tunneler was an epic.  If that isn't much of an issue, I would consider making it add to the hand instead of deck to really play up the bouncing effect.

    Nirast:

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    Way too much text and way too complicated of an effect for a common card imo.  Flavor is a bit lost on me as well since a trainer implies it would make your Silver Hand Recruits better, not be buffed by them.  I think it could be "Battlecry: Give all Silver Hand Recruits +1/+1" or a name change +"Battlecry: Gain +1/+1 for each Silver Hand Recruit you control" with some base stat buffs to compensate.

    Ardin:

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    Really like the card as is, but don't think the 2/1 statline would push it over the edge.  If you go down the Spellburst route, I would say make it add 2 random companions instead of Discover because no current Spellburst cards have a discover effect, presumably because the UI might jank out with spells that Discover.

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2245 2628 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Holy shit, a lot has happened since I was gone yesterday.

    Rapid-fire feedback time.

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    Elfensilver - Nearsighted Bully is a really funny card, although I think it being able to attack friendly characters makes it unplayable.

    MrRhapsody - Nice effect. I don't feel like it's too egregious as a Common, but it does push the boundaries more than pretty much every other card so far. I don't put it against you though, and the card is good. A problem I do see is that most random effects only hit enemies anyway.

    thepowrofcheese - I really like it.

    MenacingBagel - It's like a more "explosive" Weasel Tunneler. Kinda cool.

    Nirast - Flavorwise, it feels weird that the Trainer has less stats than what it's trying to train. On paper, it's always a 1/2 + a 1/1 for 1 mana. It seems like it might be too strong.

    Ardin - Nice! I really like it. I'd say you could probably get away with making it a 1/2 or a 2/1.

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    I added an extra comma and changed the set to Uldum. I feel pretty confident in my card but I want to be sure it is as good as it can get before I submit it.

    Someone asked how this would work with double Battlecry on a 1-health minion. I think it would kill it and get the +2 health twice since both Battlecries would happen before the minion dying is resolved. Maybe I am wrong, but I am pretty sure that is how it would work.

    Some quick feedback:

    Nirast:

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    I like it, though I think it is too efficient by itself. Usually, tribal cards should be slightly sub-par without synergy, but then slightly above average with synergy. Right now your card is just too good by itself. I would make it a 1/1 but have it not summon a Silver Hand Recruit.

    Ardin:

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    I love it. I think Animal Companions are super cool and this is a very interesting way to make use of them. I do think making it either a 2/1 or a 1/2 is a good idea.

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • MrRhapsody's Avatar
    Child of the Night 800 135 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Based on all the feed back, here's the definitive version:

    Way more versatile now, you can use to aim your Arcane Missiles on the minion you want to hit; or protect a specific friendly minion against Deadly Shot. Less stats, more versatile and easier to understand. The chosen minion would have an aura around it like Reborn to remember the players who's chosen target. All other possible doubts will be answered in the descripition. 

    Lightning speed feedback because time is short:

    Goliath: I would prefer a 1/1 statline, but it's good as it is.

    MenacingBagel: Very nice! My only suggestion is to remove the "your opponent" line for "them".

    Nirast: I like it, but i think it is too much. What about a 1/1 that summons a recruit with Taunt or Divine Shield? (and btw, all hits of Dark Skies will hit the chosen minion now).

    Ardin: Very cool, it's fine as it is IMO.

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  • thepowrofcheese's Avatar
    210 108 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    I picked some different art and a new name for my submission. Balance wise, I think it’s fine for Shaman to Coin or Lighting Bloom and get a 3-drop turn 1. Other classes can pull off crazier turn 1 plays. Plus Overload and terrible card draw limit their ability to push.


    “He’s got nowhere to go but up! Unless he becomes a gnome. Or goblin. Or..”

    KANSAS - If the Battlecry is duplicated, it will only kill with one of the pings, so it’ll only get 2 health. The doubled Battlecry just lets you kill 2-health targets. It’s a cute balanced card but not sure it will stand out much.

    Mr. Rhapsody - Would this make all 3 Arcane Missiles hit the target, or just the first one? Cool card.

    Arden - Love it. 2/1 or 1/2 statline might be fine, but I wouldn’t give it more than that, since the Companion has above average stats.

    Nirast - A 1/2 and 1/1 on turn 1 is very strong, and it’s bonkers in an odd Paladin deck. There’s also no dude synergy in Scholomance so it’s not thematic. 

    I make bad custom Hearthstone cards sometimes.

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  • Nirast's Avatar
    Senior Editor Snow-Covered 910 904 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Updated the card:

    It's now K&C, has 1 Attack and doesn't summon another SHR.

    Feedback:

    KANSAS

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    Nothing to add, since the card is pretty much the same, except maybe move the 'gain' to the following row.

    MrRhapsody

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    Wording's a bit wierd, I'd go with something like "Choose a minion as the target for the next random effect. (if possible)"

    thepowrofcheese

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    Looks good. Yeah, you have a point about the "crazier turn 1" stuff.

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  • linkblade91's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1700 2775 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    KANSAS - I think you're good to go.

    MrRhapsody - I guess it's fine as-is now. I'm still a little unsure of the card, but I can't articulate how exactly I feel.

    thepowrofcheese - I like the new name a lot; this was a good change. Not sure if the art matches that 100%, but it would be hard to find something else.

    Nirast - I like the new iteration. Still viable in an Odd Paladin deck, but requires some setup to grow into a threat.

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar
    Toybox Tactician 1895 2309 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Yeah, KANSAS, thepowrofcheese and Nirast you've all designed great cards! 4 or 5 stars candidates all of them! 

    I notice I am confused. Something I believe isn't true. How do I know what I think I know?
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  • linkblade91's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1700 2775 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Under three hours left to go in our first competition for Season 2. Submit 'em if you got 'em!

    ...which reminds me: I haven't submitted yet lol. Don't think mine is gonna do well, but I'm out of time *shrugs*

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  • shaveyou's Avatar
    415 198 Posts Joined 06/08/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    I've missed all the discussion this week, but managed to sneak an entry in just before close. I'll be more active next week, but it's looking like a strong start to the new season!

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  • Nirast's Avatar
    Senior Editor Snow-Covered 910 904 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Why does Scourge Vanguard appear twice?

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar
    Toybox Tactician 1895 2309 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    There's a typo in the name of one of them ("Scourage Vanguard"). I'd guess someone went to the lengths of creating a second account to correct this. Probably means DQ for both. Honestly, I wouldn't mind a ban from future competitions either, since participating (maybe even voting) with multiple accounts comes as close to cheating as you can get with this. We'll see what the referees say.

    I notice I am confused. Something I believe isn't true. How do I know what I think I know?
    Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres, hpmor.com

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2245 2628 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    There are indeed two separate cards entered.

    I have brought this up to the staff. I believe that even if this doesn't necessarily improve their chances of winning (as hypothetically, they should end up with nearly the same exact score), I believe a DQ is warranted here off of simply the intention of cheating.

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  • linkblade91's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1700 2775 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Good luck to our finalists :)

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  • Nirast's Avatar
    Senior Editor Snow-Covered 910 904 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Nice, made it to the finals! Good luck, everyone!

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  • Paragon's Avatar
    Divine Rager 530 184 Posts Joined 06/07/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Good luck!

    Let me light the way.

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar
    Toybox Tactician 1895 2309 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Yeah, finalist in such a strong field :) good luck everybody!

    I notice I am confused. Something I believe isn't true. How do I know what I think I know?
    Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres, hpmor.com

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Yay, I made it to the finalists! Good luck to everybody!

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • Synnr7's Avatar
    Winter Whisperer 1040 624 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Woo finals! Good luck, have fun! Well played all.

    Glad these are back!

    Casual Dragon Cardgame enthusiast. 

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  • bigcums's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 215 93 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    -1
  • linkblade91's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1700 2775 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Congratulations on your first win, anchorm4n! :D

    Demon's mistake of putting you on the Leaderboard was a short-lived one...relatively speaking lol.

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  • R's Avatar
    Design Champion 1000 743 Posts Joined 04/23/2020
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    My congratulations to anchorm4n!

    Maybe sort the final table of points in descending order?

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  • shaveyou's Avatar
    415 198 Posts Joined 06/08/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Congrats anchorm4n! 

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  • ShadowsOfSense's Avatar
    1500 1111 Posts Joined 10/23/2018
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From R

    My congratulations to anchorm4n!

    Maybe sort the final table of points in descending order?

    It's in descending order, there's just two different sections - finalists, which are sorted by their finalist score, and the rest of the entries, which are sorted by the initial score. 

    Welcome to the site!

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  • sinti's Avatar
    Senior Writer Chocolate Cake 2070 2774 Posts Joined 10/20/2018
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Congrats idd! 

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  • grumpymonk's Avatar
    360 137 Posts Joined 04/02/2020
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Congrats anchorm4n! I really liked your card.

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar
    Toybox Tactician 1895 2309 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Thank you so much! I'll wear that avatar border with pride :)

    I notice I am confused. Something I believe isn't true. How do I know what I think I know?
    Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres, hpmor.com

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  • Synnr7's Avatar
    Winter Whisperer 1040 624 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Congrats anchorm4n and wp all.

    Casual Dragon Cardgame enthusiast. 

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  • Nirast's Avatar
    Senior Editor Snow-Covered 910 904 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Congrats to anchorm4n!

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  • Wailor's Avatar
    Design Champion 640 707 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Congrats, anchor 🥳

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