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À La Card - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread
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Competition Theme: À La Card
We're hungry for some thematic cards this week, so see what you can serve up!
- You must create a card which is themed around food or eating
- The most famous existing example is Priest of the Feast, but fellow Karazhan card Silverware Golem would also work - get creative!
It looks like grumpymonk has food on the brain this week - let's feed those thoughts!
As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.
Competition Phases
Here are the phases of this card design competition
- Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Sep 21 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Sep 26 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
- Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Sep 26 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Sep 27 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
- Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Sep 27 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Sep 28 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
- Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.
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Competition Theme: À La Card
We're hungry for some thematic cards this week, so see what you can serve up!
It looks like grumpymonk has food on the brain this week - let's feed those thoughts!
As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.
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Here are the phases of this card design competition
Discussion Thread Rules
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When he isn't raising giant armies of the undead or corrupting his opponents into his pawns, he owns the most successful frozen treat business in Azeroth.
I have a question: The topic is "food or eating", so would something like Hungry Crab that canonically "eats" a minion be acceptable?
~ An expertly disguised dinosaur
Edit: I have a new idea farther down.
The effect means the turtle has to die in a single blow (barring buffs to its Health), being essentially immune to ping damage and minor trades. But who would want to hurt such an adorable thing?
Its up to the mods to decide but since I've suggested this theme, my opinion is that yes, things that eat are acceptable. I think Humongous Razorleaf might be a better example, since Hungry Crab is already a food.
We were debating the issue, but I would say then that "the word of God" has spoken. From my perspective, it's a matter of appropriate flavor: Hungry Crab eats Murlocs, but E.M.P. Operative does not "eat" a Mech.
First idea that came to my mind. Druids don't have single target removal but felt like having a delayed removal that your opponent could determine what would be sacrificed is a fair trade off. Is the stats gain too much considering single removal is supposed to be a Druid weakness? Can I increase the base stats to a 3/3 and it would still be ok?
Awesome, thank you grumpymonk.
In that case, here is my idea:
Is it too simple, being a direct counterpart to Hungry Crab? Should I give it a different bonus for destroying the beast? I also have a feeling that it might be too good considering beasts are much more common than murlocs (and there is actually a beast played in current murloc decks).
~ An expertly disguised dinosaur
Inspired by the art, honestly. I think there are a lot of directions for this competition to go so it will be interesting to see all the entries!
Feedback:
Demonxz95: I love the flavor (ha, get it) of the card! It feels a bit strong, considering Freezing Potion is the same cost to freeze, but without the effect. Maybe freezing the character either way would help with this?
linkblade91: I like the idea, but it feels very strong for an early game minion. It would be too great to trade early minions with, leaving the opponent struggling to find the right card to kill it. Reducing its health seems like it may nerf it too much, but maybe even reducing its attack by 1? I'm not sure.
Cg8889: Huh, this card could really ruin some days, or leave you with a 5 cost 2/2 depending on the deck. I'm not sure how to judge its power level, but it's interesting.
Inconspicuosaurus: I agree with your sentiment that beasts are much more common than murlocs. As it stands, it is better than a Murloc Raider, so maybe you could bump it down to a 1/1 in stats, with a +2/+1 buff?
Does drinking count? Because if not I'll have to come up with another idea.
The idea is that the goblin is so drunk he can never hit the right target. A more chaotic card, but with some element of control in the sense that you can attack what you don't actually want to hit, or try to use him to get past taunts or stealth.
Feedback time:
Valor1204: I like it, fits the theme and is a pretty good card. It might fit better as a Priest card but it works either way.
Inconspicuosaurus: It's a decent card, but not all that interesting in effect or flavor (heh). If you stick with the idea I'd at least try to find more interesting artwork.
Cg8889: There's good ideas in this, but I think it's too complicated. Either ditch the gain +3/+3 or the (5) or more requirement, I don't think having both is a good idea.
linkblade91: It's pretty interesting, but personally I don't know if the flavor (heh) is there enough IMO.
Demonxz95: I like it, actual good support for Freeze Shaman (but I may be biased since I love trying to make Freeze Shaman viable).
-Hordaki (rhymes with Mordecai)
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Yeah...I'm not feelin' the Turtle. Thanks for the early feedback, Valor1204 and Hordaki :) Time to think of something else.
Some quick early feedback of my own:
Demonxz95 - Love it.
Cg8889 - I think even with the agency going to your opponent, them losing a minion that costs (5) or more is too great a cost. What about simply being the next minion they play?
Inconspicuosaurus - I think it's too on-the-nose with its similarity to Hungry Crab.
Valor1204 - You're good to go, I'd say, outside of maybe moving it to the Priest. Your call.
Hordaki - We're fine with it: it's a general idea of food/drink consumption that we're looking for. With that in mind I like the card.
What about something like this? There were no Karazhan menagerie spells, but maybe I can get away with one.
Here is my first idea. I am not sure about the class, set, rarity, or name. And I am not sure if it fits the theme well enough, but here it is.
Hungry Crab tells us that eating a murloc is worth a +2/+2 buff. So when this tasty murloc dies, someone will eat it and get +2/+2. I am not sure if it has a direct enough reference to food, but hopefully with the right name the flavor will become more obvious.
I also have Fish Dinner which has the same flavor (pun intended), but it would be played differently. I am not too sure about giving Shaman a sacrifice effect, but I also couldn't justify giving murloc stuff to warlocks.
Now for some quick feedback:
Cg8889, I like the flavor, but I think it could be executed better. I don't think it should kill your opponent's next minion. I would give it more stats, and have it gain additional stats whenever it kills something. Kind of like The Boogeymonster but 5 mana and with stealth.
Inconspicuosaurus, (I have mentioned it before, but that is an awesome username) I like the card, but I do think that beasts are just a bit too universal, making this too reliable as a tech card. I would keep the flavor of a murloc eating a beast, but adjust the stats/effect.
Valor1204, The card is good, but healing isn't too powerful so you could definitely get away with giving it a little bit of extra stats and reducing the rarity.
Hordaki, I love it. I just love it. I have always liked the flavor of the "ogre" mechanic, but I can understand why the RNG might be frustrating. Making the random targets happen every time makes the card more reliable, and also useful for getting around taunts. I love it, 5 stars.
Linkblade91, Menagerie stuff is always neat. I like the flavor and the balance seems good. All around pretty solid card.
Carrion, my wayward grub.
Hey everyone,
Heres my idea for this week:
I'm not sure if i can bump it up to a 2/1 since its still pretty vulnerable to removal from hero powers and early minions.
Feedback:
Demonxz95 - A nice flexible option for shaman, I think its good to go in that state.
Cg8889 - As others have said its a bit too powerful and breaks one of druids weaknesses to heavily in my opinion. Possibly think about other effects that this could have when it kills a minion on the board instead of when played.
Valor1204 - this seems good and balanced, but maybe too similar to khartut defeder.
Hordaki - An interesting card, I definitely think the downside here is easier to work with than the ogre "50% chance to attack the wrong target", so it actually seems possibly playable - and has some benefit with silence decks - seems good.
linkblade91 - I really like this, menagerie cards have always been a bit lacking and needing something interesting and i think this is a good fit for that and warlock.
First idea:
A mash up of Backstab, Overwhelm, and Cutting Class, Slice and Dice deals damage to undamaged minions because you can't cut up things that are already cut up, and its more effective with a sharper blade. I've also thought about making it a *gasp* dual-class card, even though slice and dice is a rogue-exclusive ability.
Feedback:
Demonxz95 - Very cool :) I can imagine throwing this to your opponent lol. Based on Demonfire, the text could be shortened a bit to "If it's a friendly one, restore 4 Health to it instead."
Cg8889 - I think the card fits very well in rogue, and the cost restriction is not necessary. They got stuff like Biteweed and Vilespine Slayer after all.
Inconspicuosaurus - How about "Destroy a beast and gain its Health"? It could make it a little different and scales in the late game without being too good in the early game.
Valor1204 - Does the deathrattle happen before the reborn effect? I was thinking that it could heal itself, so you want to specify that it restores another character.
Hordaki - 100% chance to attack the wrong enemy huh. I really like it.
linkblade91 - I like it, and I've got nothing much to add to it.
KANSAS - For the murloc, it's weird that the minion that kills it might get the bonus. I also like the flavor of the shaman spell, though murloc should be captialized and it is quite similar to linkblade's Curious Catering.
Arkasaur - I would go ahead and make it a 2/1, and I would like to see a watermark other than classic. Good card.
Feedback
Linkblade91 - Watermelon Turtle is cute and its effect is strong, but I don't really get the flavor (no pun intended, and that pun will be EVERYWHERE). I definitely like Curious Catering better.
Cg8889 - I'm not feeling this one. I feel like it has too much going on that doesn't need to be there. In some matchups, it's a 5 mana 2/2 with Stealth and nothing else, and other times it's a 5 mana 2/2 Stealth that screws up your opponent's entire gameplan with no counterplay. I think the effect of destroy the minion is too OP when it does happen because it forces them to spend so much mana on nothing. Removal like this is also not very Druid-like.
Inconspicuosaurus - A "crab" for Beasts is okay I suppose, but the problem I see here is that Beast is the most universal tribe tag in the game so I'm not sure if printing premium Beast removal like this is a good idea. Hemet wasn't a problem because it was a Legendary with stats that were low for the cost and shittily adjudicated.
Valor1204 - A really funny card to me. I quite like the artwork. My only concern is that it might be slightly too similar to Khartut Defender.
Hordaki - I absolutely love the effect and the flavor (hehe). You're going to get high marks from me, I'll tell you that much.
KANSAS - Your first card seems okay, although I feel the connection to food might not be obvious to some people. Fish Dinner is better, but it feels too similar to Link's, Curious Catering. As for your suggestion, I unfortunately probably can't card draw without taking up too much text.
Arkasaur - The effect is okay to me, although the name seems a bit strange.
Grumpymonk - I actually quite like this card. In terms of flavor (hehe), it might make more sense for it to just be a Rogue card, but in terms of gameplay, it fits dual class fine enough especially Cutting Class also exists.
My card for the competition, thoughts?
The idea is that craving the Mana is so powerful it can draw you more cards. Very situational draw that can pay off if you build your deck well enough around it. [Edit: Don't know if the play on words "Thirst For Knowledge" fits the criteria of the competition]
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I had a much harder time finding art for this that I thought I would, not many pictures of fantasy human chefs.
This is a real NPC in WoW. 6/6/6 as an homage to the 'Hell' in Hell's Kitchen. The flavor behind the effect being that he eliminates the weakest 'contestant' in hand and eliminates similarly weak minions on the board. I played around with discarding spells, lowest vs highest, destroying less than the cost instead of damage, but this is the first version I settled on.
Feedback sometime tomorrow, good luck everyone!
I... just couldn't let this beatiful, anime-like piece of art I saved on Pinterest be wasted, now that it suits this week's theme. Just for clarification, when you use your Hero Power, you also deal 2 damage to your opponent and force them to draw a card. I specifically used "starting", because why would someone ever give their opponent free heals from DK Hero Power, or free cards from Tome of Origination?
"Truth is in the shadows, waiting to be revealed by the light. But light only disperses the shadow." - Me
"If other people shared traits of those considered naive, the world would've become a better place." - Also me
First idea based on stored and (hopefully) fitting art. I get that there are already quite a few similar cards around though, so I'll look for more art and see if inspiration strikes. Will add feedback later.
I'll work on feedback next!
I notice I am confused. Something I believe isn't true. How do I know what I think I know?
Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres, hpmor.com
Here's my first idea. Sorry I don't have internet on my PC right now, and just posting this from my phone already was an absolute nightmare...so feedback will have to wait until thursday or friday.
Edit: Eaten minions are destroyed.
Still inspired by my failed beast hunter lol.
Thematically, card is about animals crazed with hunger attacking mindless for food. "Consumed" minions become buffer add health to the consuming beast.
Functionally, this is somewhat a conditional board clear for Beast hunters. Conditional in the sense that they need first to have board for this to work, they have no control on which minions are attacked, and friendly minions need to be beasts. Can be useful against pesky taunts without sacrificing board. Similar to Mass Hysteria but targets are opposing minions.
A beast payoff card.
Side notes:
Heres my first Idea:
I went with a Legendary this time - so far i like it - not sure about the Stats tough!!
Feedback is always welcome!
Feedback: (this is my second time competing and my first time giving feedback so i hope i do not step on anyones toes here.)
Demonxz95
The Art is freakin Funny :)
I think the Card looks a bit Strong - i never underestimate 0 Mana Spells and therefor i think it should at least cost 1.
Cg8889
I kinda like the Idea about the delayed removal. And if it gains the removal stats it's a 5 Mana 5/5 - so i guess its a decent card.
So far nothing to add from my perspective.
Inconspicuosaurus
Wow - first of, writing your Name was not easy :)
I think the card is very strong because there are lots of Beasts out there that see play - and for a 1 drop this would easily see play in lots of decks. And also it is like you mentioned very similiar to Hungry Crab - also im not feeling the theme with this one somehow …
Valor1204
Cool art and Nice Idea. The Deathrattle Effect in combination with the Reborn kinda reminds me of Karthut Defender :) But i kinda like it.
Hordaki
Fun card - i can realy see this one work - but i do not feel the theme with this card. Sure he drinks or is drunk but for me personaly it doesn't suit the theme.
linkblade91
Im talking about Curious Catering because you said we should forget the turtle :)
I realy like it - always liked Zoo-ish decks and the card suits Zoo good and hits the flavour pretty good too i think.
Kansas:
I think Fish Dinner is a good card - not sure about the Mana Cost. This could be pretty strong early on even with the Sacrifice effect.
Arkasaur:
Kinda cool but could be very annoying to play against - not sure if 1 Mana makes this card too strong.
grumpymonk:
Hits the Theme pretty well! I think it is fine as a Dual Class Card. So far nothing too add except i think it could be to strong for 1 Mana.
Pokeniner:
Looks like a decent card but i'm not feeling the theme with this one. The Card itself is interesting but i guess it does not realy suit the theme.
BloodMefist:
Hahaha i love it - but i also love Gordon Ramsay , so i may be biased against this one :)
Neoguli:
Like the idea behind the effect. Overall good card - so far nothing more to add.
anchorm4n:
Well so far i like the first one better but i do not feel the theme for both of the cards. Also the Squirrel looks too strong.
TheHoax91:
Interesting card. One Question about the Ability - if he attacks a minion that would kill it - does he eat it, gain the stats and survive or how would it work?
JackJimson:
Wow , even as a conditional board clear this seems too strong - at least for 2 mana. Maybe cut the life gain to fit Hunter a litte bit better.
Challenge me ... when you're ready to duel a god!
Feedback:
Fieselfitz
JackJimson
For art, I had just the same problem that you're experiencing right now when I started to participate in these competitions last season. I usually use artstation.com, but yeah, you have to dig quite deep to find original stuff. My "solution" to this issue was to save the link to every nice piece of art in a worksheet with a short description (like "Murloc Mech" or "Under water Goblin"). I've accumulated a little collection after some time and it's starting to pay off as of late. Sometimes you can get away with just google-ing "*stuff you're looking for* fantasy art". Regarding feedback, everybody is qualified to give that. You should even feel encouraged to do so, as some people think it's rude to ask for advice without reciprocating. Nice to see you here on a regular basis and sticking to the Hunter quest!
TheHoax91
Neoguli
BloodMefist
Pokeniner
grumpymonk
Arkasaur
KANSAS
linkblade
Hordaki
Valor1204
Inconspicuosaurus
Cg8889
Demon
I notice I am confused. Something I believe isn't true. How do I know what I think I know?
Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres, hpmor.com
First ideas i have for now. In WoW mages could create food which both restored health and mana
I'll boop you
Changed the effect because like anchorm4n mentioned - it didn't realy suit the theme that well :) and i also liked his idea and it is more suitable for the theme too.
Also made him 5 instead of 4 Mana and therefor changed his stats a little bit too.
Feedback Basil Anguis:
I like the Secret. Not Sure about the "Text Formation" - Maybe something like:
Secret: At the start of your turn, restore 4 Health to your Hero and gain 1 Mana Crystal this turn only.
I think that sounds better than "When your turn starts"
About the Recipe and the Pie:
Nice Idea and not much to add but i like the Secret better.
Challenge me ... when you're ready to duel a god!
Alright just forget about the Dragon (and the Squirrel I edited out because it was awful). I had to dig hard, but I've found some nice fitting art and I'm excited to hear what you think about this:
Do you think the balance is okay? I thought it important to restrict the damage dealt to minions. I could imagine making it cost 5, deal 3, buff +2/+2 or cost 3, deal 2, buff +1/+1. #makehunterwinawcdc
I notice I am confused. Something I believe isn't true. How do I know what I think I know?
Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres, hpmor.com
Thanks for the feedback! The text format is actually taken after Competitive Spirit. Not sure if i should use a more modern text like the one you gave, or stay in line with previous iterations of this sort of secret.
I'll boop you
Thanks for feedback! Unfortunately, my sin is to go hard on unique design and forget the story behind the card. That's why you may not exactly resonate with it, but tbh the theme around it's effect can be interrpretated by combining the damage from your hero power and the ominousity of the chandelier to also damage the other hero. They are merciless, and even dissapointed that there is no third hero to damage - I want to include that in the potential flavor text.
"Truth is in the shadows, waiting to be revealed by the light. But light only disperses the shadow." - Me
"If other people shared traits of those considered naive, the world would've become a better place." - Also me
I like it. I think the Balance is good alltough 3 Damage can kill a lot of minions these days but i still think the card is fine.
Challenge me ... when you're ready to duel a god!
BasilAnguis
FieselFitz
I notice I am confused. Something I believe isn't true. How do I know what I think I know?
Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres, hpmor.com
My other idea wasn't going over well so decided to go back to the drawing board. Came up with the below:
You can think of it like a precursor to Zephrys the Great but this comes from your deck instead of a resource generation. Need that Brawl really bad? Play this with 5 remaining mana crystals to try and grab it (obviously still can whiff if you have multiple cards in your deck of that certain amount but that is to be expected).
Ok, always thought i should pick the Watermark for the most recent Expansion. How can i make a custom one?
Will try to mess with the text so i can get rid of the single word.
Thx
Edit:
Still not sure how i did it but i messed around a little and got a Costum Watermark - it didn't work at first but i still got it :)
Also messed with the Text so i do not have a Single Word in the last line.
Challenge me ... when you're ready to duel a god!
When you choose a watermark, there's a "Custom" option which will take you to a place where you can choose a variety of custom watermarks. This is also where you can force apply a watermark to a card without a rarity, which is good for tokens
Thank you for all your feedback, everyone. It seems everyone agreed my first idea was a bit too bland and a bit too strong (and it also seems people either love my name or hate (to spell) it, haha).
I have come up with another idea, but it was really tough to find appropriate art. I was hoping to find something vaguely wow-styled that showed a cafeteria lunch with like a fish head or something, but that proved far too obscure. I thought with an image like that and the punny name it would be perfect for Scholomance. I hope this still gets the idea across? Is it clear that it's the number of piranhas that increases whenever a friendly minion dies? This would have to be in the hand for it to count up, but "while this is in your hand" has been variously included or not with no apparent consistency, so I left it off to save text.
Feedback for everyone!
Demonxz95 - I love it. Humorous, fits the theme, fits the direction HS took the Lich King in their ad materials for KFT, and some much needed Freeze Shaman support.
linkblade91 - I like the idea, and the art is adorable, but the effect is not very clear from the text and I don't really know how you'd fix that. I can only suggest a different effect with the same art.
Cg8889 - A very interesting idea. I like that it's sort of like a living secret, and it plays into druids whole "5 or more attack" theme. I just think the concept in general would be more suited to Rogue than Druid.
Oops, just saw you posted a new idea. This one is very cool, and the name and theme are great, as is the attribution to Gadgetzan (although I could just as easily see it in Kharazan). It is definitely a VERY powerful draw tool, but I suppose you can't use it for tempo plays, as whatever you draw is coming 2 turns late, so I guess it should be okay?
Valor1204 - I like it. Very clear and appropriate theme, cute art, and it would be a decent Reborn minion to help curve out Paladin quest. It could even work in quest Priest too.
Hordaki - A fun idea, and kudos on the TGT representation. I could see this genuinely being run in Face decks, just to get around taunts and hit face when the opponent has one minion. Ironically, it would bring some interesting plays to a usually very simple playstyle for the deck.
linkblade91 - I like this one much more :) The art is perfect, I love the unusual angle on the Menagerie theme, and destroying minions fits Warlock perfectly. Not to mention they do tend to run a weird mix of tribes in Zoo too.
KANSAS - I much prefer Fish Dinner (werdly similar name to my new idea, but thankfully very different effects). I do think you could make it Warlock though. Warloc was the first true murloc deck, and they've had some support in the form of Seadevil Stinger in MSG. I don't see why you can't bring it back!
Arkasaur - The effect is very interesting, but I am not sure how it really fits the competition theme. How does it give the card back if it eats it? I am not sure I want to know…
grumpymonk - The art is amazing and the effect is very cool. The damage seems high considering it isn't bad even without the weapon boost, but I guess it being only undamaged minions should make it okay.
Pokeniner - I love the art and how perfectly it fits the punny name. Big props for that lol. The effect seems to fit the greedy idea of the art and name too, so all works for me!
BloodMefist - I love all the little nods to WoW lore and the irl Gordon Ramsay here. Even without them, it's an interesting effect that I could definitely see in the game. Neutral discards are very rare, but this seems like a good use of it.
Neoguli - It's a really cool effect and the art is great, but I don't see how it fits the theme? I saw you explain how the effect relates to the art, but I mean, how is it related to cooking/eating? Is it an oblique reference to Beauty the Beast and the Be Our Guest segment? If so, that seems a bit to tenuous a link to me…
anchorm4n - I am a sucker for good colour synchronisation between art and card border, so this one immediately got me. The art itself is also awesome, and the effect is a kind not seen in HS in a while that I think deserves another chance. I like it!
Didn't see your other card until after I wrote this. I stand by what I said, but I do really like the new one. The fantasy makes perfect sense, and I like that i's sort of a "chill" card that still makes perfect sense for hunter.
TheHoax91 - This is such a cool effect, and of course very powerful, but I think the high cost and low stats balance it, while keeping a statline that could definitely make use of it, especially with things like Warrior's Galakrond battlecry. Definitely a strong contender!
JackJimson - I like the first part of the effect (a board-wide The Beast Within is a pretty fun idea), but the second part adds unnecessary complication and doesn't really fit Hunter imo. Heals are not really a part of the class. Perhaps, if you wanted to keep that theme and reduce text on the card you could instead make it this: "Your friendly beasts gain Lifesteal and attack random enemies." You could do Lifesteal and Immune, but that would be too strong for 2 mana I think.
FieselFitz - A cool effect and perfect art. I definitely perfer the second version though. I seems everyone wants to eat murlocs in this competition! XD
BasilAnguis - Conjure Food is an interesting idea, and I see why it kind of has to be a Secret as it currently is, but it feels kinda clunky. You could just make it "Restore 4 Health, your next spell costs 1 less mana" to accomplish a similar effect without that added clunkiness. I think I prefer Morbid Recipe. The art for both parts is great, and the Sweney Todd thematics are on point.
~ An expertly disguised dinosaur
Here's my first idea, although it seems someone else had the same idea for the main spell (p.s. there's literally no other art online for this):
Refreshment spells:
I might make more Refreshemtn spells, but I just did this on my phone and it was painful enough. I will post feedback to other peoples' cards later once I get back to my computer.
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Hi guys.
The very first idea who crossed my mind when i read the theme was poisoned food or intoxication by food, then I made this two cards. What do you think, I apprexiate The feedback after the last transparency report 😓.
More feedback
Pokeniner - Now that's a great joke with the name and the art. The effect is neat, although I am slightly worried that it would end up going the same route as Roll the Bones.
BloodMefist - A brilliant reference to the real life Gordon Ramsay, and a smart usage of an existing WoW NPC. The flavor (and that pun is going to keep happening whether I want it to or not) is pretty on-point too. I'd say this is pretty good.
Neoguli - A completely fair enough card by itself, but it seems extremely out of place in theme. Any possible reference to cooking or eating you could mangle from this will not be obvious enough for a lot of people when it comes to voting.
Anchorm4n - Ah, I remember when Big Game Hunter was meta. Conflicting times, conflicting times. Your card seems fine to me. Actually, something somewhat hilarious is imagining a Deep Sea Predator eating another Deep Sea Predator.
TheHoax91 - A flavorful (hahahahahahahahahahahahaha) representation of Patchwork with a neat effect, although depending on how specific "phases" of combat work, it might be hard to use the effect properly since it has 4 Health.
JackJimson - I think the proper text would be "Give your Beasts Immune this turn, then they attack a random enemy minion. If they kill any, they gain Health equal to the damage dealt". This however would end up being 5 lines of text with no convenient way to short it enough, so you're best off with a different card instead.
FieselFitz - I enjoy the second version much more than the first. I think it's a solid interpretation of the effect. I'm not sure how good it would be in comparison to Underbelly Angler, but that card was a mistake to being with.
Inconspicuosaurus - I feel like the card is probably too weak. I'd say you could probably make it 4 mana. Based on Nethrandamus, I feel like you could probably use "Upgrades each time a friendly minion dies" for the upgrade part. That said, the card itself is pretty hilarious in terms of the connection between the name, art, and effect, which I really like.
DavnanKillder - Deadly Banquet seems fine for a Rogue Secret, although the flavor feels off. In this situation, normally only person is the target for murder (the owner of the establishment where the gathering in question is taking place). Innocent Apple Seller is a fine reference to Snow White, although judging by how Corruption is not played, I feel like this wouldn't either.
Thanks! How do you like the Hunter spell though (a few posts downward on page 2)? I think it fits the theme much better.
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@Demonxz95 - I made the card resemble a Chandelier by using the allowed, secondary theme of creating cards like Silverware Golem. I do sometimes think it should be actually named Feastful Chandelier to better match the theme.
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Looks decent - i would spell out the 3 (Summon three 1/1 Piranhas ...) cause i think the it would make the text look more smothly because of the 1/1 numbers afterwards.
And thx for all the feedback to everyone :)
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Three chefs enter. ONE LEAVES.
The last one doesn’t transform if they are killed at once, so I allowed myself to make it a little OP. Thoughts?
Make The Cow King an alternate Warrior skin plz
Normally this would be correct.
However, since the number of piranhas is what is being upgraded, using 3 in numeric form is actually correct here.
Silverware Golem counts because it's made out of a bunch of silverware. Forks, knives, plates, etc. Stuff you use to eat. A chandelier not so much
Oh, Sharing the Spoils. Sorry, kinda glossed over it.
I like the effect, but I feel you can get away with making it 3 mana (and not changing anything else).
Some more feedback:
DestroyerR - I love the overall flavor, especially with the yelling text on the big guy. Lifesteal in Warrior is rather unusual, but I don't know what I would put in its place. Maybe an Enrage effect (sorry, "while damaged" effect)? That would certainly connect back to the anger.
DavnanKillder - I think Deadly Banquet is too strong. Secrets generally are worth about 2 more mana than their cost given the requirements, but even at 4-mana a "Destroy all minions who damaged you last turn" could be quite punishing. You could have it say "destroy a random minion that attacked you" to bring down the effect a bit, although the flavor is off. I would stay away from Innocent Apple Seller: Corruption-like cards are generally too slow and weak, even if you get a 2/3/3 out of it.
GameTheory345 - I think you might have too many tokens/cards for the competition: we have a set limit on how many you can submit as a package, and that number is currently 4. Making more Refreshment cards would compound the problem. You're going to have to cut one of the Refreshments, which I think is fine because Discover is a 3-per process anyway. Increases the consistency of the spell by a whole lot. I personally would cut the Barkbeast Pie, the option most people will not use (Mages don't care to heal their minions). If you want to keep the pie art, I would replace Silkweed Brew (considering you have three beverages otherwise).
Inconspicuosaurus - I think you could lower the cost of the spell to 4. Swarm of Locusts automatically gives you seven minions to work with, and you fully control how they attack. Yeah School Dinner can go face, but that's not necessarily a good thing unless you're looking to stretch for lethal.
FieselFitz - This is a minor gripe, but you have a lot of "dead space" in the art around the Murloc, so maybe zoom a little more in if you can? Other than that, I think the card is fine as a slower Murloc: most Murlocs want to go face, but this encourages trading for a board refill.
Cg8889 - I like this much better. It's a cool tutor card that encourages intelligent deck-building and memorization (or the use of a tracker, but nevermind that).
anchorm4n - I agree with Demon in-that it could maybe cost 3 instead. You have to kill a minion, and it only buffs the Beasts you have on the board. I don't find the card to be terribly exciting, though, if I'm being honest. It's just "okay". As for Deep Sea Predator…it's a tech class card, and I frown on those.
BasilAnguis - 4 Health is not a lot, so maybe you could buff Conjure Food's effect a little. The Mana Crystal is throwing me off a bit because it's so unprecedented in the Mage. That said I think I like Morbid Recipe more, even if it's a more complicated Siphon Soul. You could reduce the cost of the pie to 2 (Holy Light) or even maybe 1 (to make it better than Siphon Soul, which is fine given it is an expansion card).
JackJimson - Of course you can provide feedback to others! It is encouraged but not required, and there are no qualifications for doing so. As for art, I just go on Google and type in something like "fantasy (the thing you want) art" and scroll through that, narrowing the search parameters if I need something more specific. In regards to Feeding Frenzy, I think it is both too powerful and too messy with the secondary effect tacked on. You're essentially combining The Beast Within with Bestial Wrath, but it affects all of your minions *and* has another bonus on top of that. This spell would need to cost way more than 2.
TheHoax91 - "Patchwerk" is spelled with an E, not an O. Beyond that, I think there's an inherent problem with your card in-that the second anyone tries to trade into it, they are eaten and added to Patchwerk's stats. If you cannot kill Patchwerk in a single hit, he becomes an impossible obstacle because of the Taunt, and even then I'm not sure if he would die to *any* trade (or if he would instead eat the minion first and gain enough Health to keep living).
Neoguli - I agree with Demon: I think the Chandelier is not really what we're looking for, although the card itself is neat and I like the art. At least with silverware, you eat from those; chandeliers have nothing innate in them that has to do with food.
BloodMeFist - I like it, especially since he's a real NPC as you noted. I can see the Hell's Kitchen flavor, and can already imagine the angry/shouting voice lines haha
Pokeniner - I think you can get away with the card as it is, in-part because the art is him literally drinking in the knowledge. Not sure what I can say about the card itself; it's Roll the Bones, but for Overload. Probably better than RtB because Overload Shamans tend to stock up on the effect, versus Rogues who utilize a few, very specific collection of Deathrattles.
grumpymonk - I'd rather you left it as a Rogue-only card, in-part because as you noted it is a Rogue ability. It's also a lot less powerful in the Rogue compared to the Warrior, which goes a long way in balancing the effect and justifying its 1-mana cost.
Arkasaur - I've seen this kind of effect before, and the art too. I think the card is fine - minus the mistake of giving it a Classic watermark - but unfortunately it's not very original or creative.
KANSAS - What about "Well-Fed Murloc", and finding art of a particularly-bloated Murloc? That would justify the 3/4 stats in regards to flavor, and you could argue that eating such a hefty creature is where the +2/+2 comes from. Not really a fan of Fish Dinner, and I don't just say that because of my own card being so similar. I don't think the sacrifice effect really fits a Murloc Shaman, and they already got a +2/+2 buff spell in Everyfin is Awesome. I know that's a Wild spell, but the overlap is still present.
I don't really have a good feeling about my current cards. So I thought up something else.
I want to put it in warrior, but then the windfury wouldn't fit. I also am not 100% set on the stats.
I will get some more feedback out tomorrow.
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One more try. Too bad I couldn't find a different piece of art to avoid using this one from Karazhan. Sure, Roll the Bones reuses one from an adventure, but showing something more original will help more. EDIT: I'm also not that confident in reviewing other people's stuff, so don't really expect me to hear my opinion. Maybe I'll try to review some in the future.
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Ah ok, yes that makes sense!
Thx for clearing that up!
Heres my "new" Version - i zoomed in on the Pic a little bit.
New Feedback:
Kansas:
Give a friendly Minion +2/+2 and a 50% Chance to attack the wrong Enemy.
Thats what i would do.
Neoguli:
The Effect seems pretty interesting … not sure about the Stats but i guess they are fine.
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Thanks for the feed.
I think the text isn't enough for what I want it to be. So back to the drawing board for that one.
Here is another idea.
Theme: a treant minion consuming the mana of the opposing hero.
Functional: a conditional [Hearthstone Card (inneravate) Not Found] with a body. More easily played around by your opponent, but provides more of an upside.
Feedback (WIP):
Disclaimer: below is personal opinion lol.
FieselFitz - Not bad as board refill minion, though you have to lose your board to gain a board. Unsure of balance, expensive murlocs tend to not make the cut though.
Neoguli - I like the effect it is unique. I'm assuming it's only the damage right or does your opponents draw too? If it's the latter, I think you need higher stats for the minion to make it worth running.
KANSAS - I like how it fits the theme of the bar tender handing out drinks. Though I think +2 attack rather than +1/+1 is a better fit for a drunk lol
DestroyerR - I like the theme. Feels simiar to Siamat but with a pseudo deathrattle.
A bit late but I really hope I can get some feedback before I turn this one in
Thanks for your feedback! Linkblade and Demon thought I could get away with a 3 Mana cost. I would like to avoid that since this slot is really crowded in Hunter. 4 Mana also avoids Unleash the Hounds into double Sharing the Spoils which is relevant because of the other change I made: I raised the buff to +2/+2. Since I also changed my mind about this not being able to target heros in favor of flexibility, here's the new version of the card:
I hope this is a little more exciting for y'all. I'm pretty fond of the flavor, even if the art looks rather relaxed in comparism to your usual ferocious Hunter card. What do you think?
Next round of feedback:
bigcums
FieselFitz
Neoguli
KANSAS
DestroyerR
DavnanKillder
GameTheory345
Inconspicuosaurus
Cg8889
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A little Feedback:
bigcums:
anchorm4n:
And Thx for the Feedback everyone!
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There was a lot happening in my process this week.
I had the idea of: What if Medivh invited everyone to his dinner? Or if they played dancing chairs? Could all minions switch sides?
Then I worked on my card, thinking that it would be just as amazing as Treachery but with more potential - and realized that it was extremely op... ^^'
I also made a version for Shaman with a "stirring the soup"-flavour. But this still feels wrong. Should this be cheaper and only rotate the minions once or twice like in the Carousel?
Feedback time!
Cg8889: I thought the plant could work if made into a Rogue card, but it would clash a bit with Vilespine Slayer. What's Your Drink? is an interesting effect that I think ultimately works better though. That said, it does heavily promote using a deck-tracker, which is something you might want to consider. It's not a big deal, but some may be turned off by it.
Inconspicuosaurus: I like the general idea of School Dinner, but think the effect needs some tweaking. Hunter already has Swarm of Locusts, which for 1 more mana, automatically gets 7 1/1s and they can target their damage. I suggest increasing the number of Pirhanas to a static 4-5 and have the cost lowered whenever a minion dies, making it sort of like the Hunter version of Fel Guardians.
Valor1204: It's one of those names that feels so close to a pun, but is just barely out of reach. It feels a bit too similar to Khartut Defender for my liking. I think you could switch it to be a stat buff, like +3 health or +2/+1 to better differentiate it while keeping the flavor.
KANSAS: I'm not a fan of the 50% mechanic in HS, so I personally don't like the effect. A neutral minion that grants Windfury is also a bit spooky given how much damage that can represent, even if it does hit the wrong target.
grumpymonk: I think the weapon-attack archetype is good in Rogue without having to dip into Warrior as well. I think the base damage should be nerfed to 2 so that it more heavily relies on the weapon-attack synergy to become a good card, like how Cutting Class is really bad until your weapon as at least 2 attack.
Neoguli: The flavor switch was a good call and still fits. I don't think the card is very good though. While an interesting idea, Warlock hero power is one of (if not the) best in the game, so giving a free one to your opponent doesn't seem very good. I don't think the effect as is should stay, or the stats should be driven up to make up for the effect's trade off.
anchorm4n: I think Share the Spoils is a good idea, but think it is a bit overtuned at +2/+2. I think taking the Scrap Imp treatment and going for a +2/+1 buff would work well.
JackJimson: I like the first card, but bump up the cost to 3 and lose the second sentence. The card is trying to do too much and feels bloated. The first effect lines up with past Hunter cards and is in flavor by itself. The second effect should go since Hunter shouldn't have access to self-healing and the effect adds too much complication. Manadrinker feels like it would be somewhat useless in some matchups while being alright-good in others. In aggressive matchups, you will almost never get the discount on a turn that is relevant since your opponent will be playing on curve. In slower matchups, you might get a cheap 4/3, but even that might not be very impactful. It suffers from similar issues to cards that relied on opponent hand size.
BasilAnguis: I like both Conjure Food and Morbid Recipe, but I favor Recipe a bit more. 5 mana to destroy a minion + small upside is something we've seen before and doesn't feel overpowered, but you could bump the cost to 6 if you want. Conjure Food doesn't really feel like a secret card, even if it does fall in line with Competitive Spirit. You could just make it a spell with a delayed effect, but that does lose some interesting applications of being a Secret that doesn't interact with your opponent. I also have some reservations against putting healing in Mage, since it feels out of flavor.
GameTheory345: Not a big fan of putting healing or mana regen into the Mage class. It can already be hard enough to bring down a mage through their freezing and removal, healing to this degree will feel like too much, especially when the card double or even triple dips into generation for Mana Cyclone.
Davnan Killder: Apple Seller is an overstatted 2 cost that also comes with a Corruption. The downside is minimal and the card is too strong imo. I am a big fan of Deadly Banquet, but think hard removal is too powerful on it. I think changing the destroy into dealing 3-4 damage would be better.
DestroyerR: I like the idea, the flavor is really good. Lifesteal in Warrior feels a tad out of place since they're so focused on armor instead, but chefs are typically some kind of healer in games so it could work.
bigcums: Healing in Hunter is a big no-no for me, it doesn't feel right given the class's identity and history. The card itself is also super conditional for an upside that isn't really relevant where it works. Assuming you are able to play it where you can get good value means that you either have a wide or tall board, meaning that you are likely in a winning or advantageous position. Playing this card then does nothing to improve your board advantage and instead offers an effect that only occurs when you are losing health and you are winning with mainly/exclusively Beasts. The effect is too niche and does not offer what Hunter's want in a card.
bananenparty: I like the idea of a mass Treachery, but don't think Warlock should have the ability to take enemy minions. This card could also be used as a mass Mind Control, which would be way OP and feel awful to play against. I think lowering the cost and just moving your minions to the enemy side is a good change. The favor might need a touch up and you could also put the effect on a battlecry so you aren't left with a board of nothing.
I took away the windfury, gave extra attack, and made it a warrior card.
Feedback:
Grumpymonk, I like it. I think it is good as just a rogue card. I also think a Mean Streets of Gadgetzhan wattermark might be more fitting, but frankly I don't think it matters a whole lot. All around great card.
Demonxz95, You could fit a draw ability into the text by changing it to "Freeze a character, if it is a friendly character restore 4 health instead. Draw a card." But you already submitted so it is too late.
Pokeniner, I don't really see a connection with food. Just saying "thirst for knowledge" doesn't feel like enough. There has to be something food/eating/kitchen related in your card, not just implying that something is being metaphorically consumed. About the actual of the card, I love it. I really appreciate any draw for shaman, and overload feels like a generally under-supported archetype.
BloodMefist, It should be a warlock card. Other than that I think it is good.
Neoguli, The effect is super cool, but I don't really see why a teacup would create a symmetrical effect for your life tap.
anchorm4n, The card is pretty good all-around. The cost and effect are all balanced, and the flavor and art are pretty solid as well. I have nothing to criticize, good job.
jackJimson, I don't see the connection with food on this card. The card is called "ManaDrinker", but I don't think just having the word "drink" is enough. There has to be something in the cards art/effect related to food or eating.
BasilAnguis, I like Morbid Recipe better. The removal is nice, and as someone who enjoys playing suicide warlock, healing is very appreciated.
Cg8889, Very interesting. I am a big fan of tutor effects, and this is no exception. I like the flexibility and reliability of this card. And the flavor is pretty good as well.
Inconspicuosaurus, I think the card is pretty underpowered. For 3 mana you could just play Unleash the Hounds. This costs more, and requires a few turns to set up. At it's very best, the card is a slightly cheaper, but much more random Swarm of Locusts.
GameTheory345, I like it, but I am not sure if you will be able to submit that many tokens. I also don't think it should be a common since the card is so unique and powerful.
DavnanKillder, I am not really a fan of Deadly Banquet because if you don't play around it, it is deviating and will often lose you the game. And if you do play around it then you had to go a whole turn only punching the rogue once (and probably with your smallest minion), which is still a huge negative. Whether you play around it or not, the card is very powerful. I am also not entirely sure about Innocent Apple Seller. For one it is a 2 mana 3/3. This is justified by giving an enemy minion +1/+1, but then it also has a Corruption effect to negate the buff. I am not sure if it is too powerful, or not powerful enough.
DestroyerR, I really like it, though I do think it is drastically under-powered. At 7 mana you generally want to get more than just flat stats. You could probably make a 7 mana 6/6 that summons two 2/2s and it wouldn't be very powerful, especially at Legendary. I would make it 6 mana, have it summon four 2/2s, and have the remaining one turn into a 5/5.
bananenparty, No. A well timed Mind Control can be game ending, and it will always be frustrating. Having a mind control effect on the entire board is a recipe for disaster. Yes, you do give your board to them, but who says I have to have a board when I play this? I could play this card when I only have one minion on the board and my opponent has 7. I would come up with a new idea.
Carrion, my wayward grub.
Thanks for all the feedback everyone. Following your suggestions, I am going to submit School Dinner pretty much the same, but at 4 mana. I see the card as a finisher for Face Hunter, or as a late-game board clear for a midrange deck. In either circumstance I think any lower cost would make it too powerful, especially considering Hunter has so much small minion generation with things like Desert Spear, Unleash the Hounds and Swarm of Locusts.
I also decided to stick with Hunter, even though a "damaged minions" based version in Warrior does sounds very cool and flavourful, simply because the 1/1 Piranha token is already a thing for Hunter with Piranha Launcher, and attacking random enemies is too with Nagrand Slam, The Beast Within, Imprisoned Felmaw, etc.
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Looking for a bit of fine tuning. People seemed to like the effect so I will go forward with Gordon, but I was wondering if people think he should stay Neutral or be Warlock. I also wanted to gauge how people felt on zoomed in art vs. full figure.
Definitely use the full figure artwork.
I'm perfectly fine with it being Neutral. Perhaps classes who are weak in AoE might want to use it, in addition to simply Discolock.
Y'all have a point here, the Warlock card was way too imbalanced.
Introducing: "Stirring the Stew"
Doing it twice, so your opponent has to think through what to play and to kill, also helping with positioning based removal.
Ok that was not such a good card idea I have to admit. Thanks for all the feedback. How about this one?
KANSAS
BloodMefist
bananenparty
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I am kind of going back and forth on the stats. 3/6 is premium stats for a 4-drop, but his effect is both an upgrade, and a downgrade. Does the 50% chance to mess up negate the benefit of the +3 attack, or is it still enough of a benefit that the Barkeeps stats should be reduced?
Carrion, my wayward grub.
I feel like it's not too that OP as a 4 mana 3/6, so I think you could keep it that way.
That said, you do have a grammar mistake (you wrote "attack" instead of "Attack"), and there seems to be a logo visible in the art. If possible, position the art so that the logo isn't visible.
Less than 2.5 hours to go! If you haven't submitted, you really should :P
Good luck to our finalists :)
I'm not very happy with this week's results. None of my favorites made it - where are Friendly Barkeep and Slice and Dice? Neither did we manage to get a Hunter card to the finals once more. Sigh. Anyway, good luck to the finalists!
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Aisde from feeling a little bit upset for not reaching finals yet again, I do agree that the Hunter card with Tentacle of N'Zoth was so flavorful and pretty good as a card in general that it should be there.
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The one thing that I hope I am wrong about is the fact that Fresh Apple is blatantly plagiarized from a card that made it into Trump's top custom cards of the week quite a while ago. I really hope the guy that posted it here it's the same person, otherwise, that would be really not cool.
That's my card and I am also the creator of the original card that Trump reviewed :) I found the flavor was too perfect not to be reused in this contest. But really good you pointed it out, plagiarizing another person's design should never be tolerated.
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Fellow finalist here.
The problem I had with Fresh Apple is the fact that it uses art that's already used by another collectible card in the game (in the same expansion too, no less): Witchwood Apple.
Considering this and the fact that Carrot Muncher uses the classic watermark and has a spelling error ("health" should be capitalized), I'm even more surprised about some rather promising cards not showing up in the finals. The transparency report will be very interesting this week. Maybe we can draw some conclussions from this.
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The one thing I am curious about is that Hunger Mad Virmen made it to the finalists, whereas my Street Magician card that had the exact same effect got a pretty low rating a few weeks ago. I am not upset about it, I just find it interesting how the same effect can do a lot better or worse with a simple change of art and setting.
Carrion, my wayward grub.
Oh my bad then xD. I just thought about bringing it up since it got into the finals and it would suck if someone stole the entire card idea and won. I really liked the card when I first saw it in his video btw. Good job.
If I recall correctly, Street Magician was a Rogue+Warlock card rather than just a Warlock card. I think people may have been turned off by Rogue's ability to abuse battlecry triggers while simultaneously bypassing the deathrattle via cards like Shadowstep. Warlock by itself has no way to bounce cards, reducing abuse cases by a great degree. This might not be the full reason, but it may explain a bit of it.
I do actually think that KANSAS is right and art carries you farther than it could be expected.
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Shoot , was realy hoping for the Finals this Time ... Maybe on the Next one.
but i also find some of the Good cards i was Sure to See in the Finals Not in the Voting ... And Others i thought will Not make it are ... Personal referrence only tough :)
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Congratulations to Sinth...again! Is someone comin' for my title? Best be uppin' my game :P
That's two in a row for Sinth.
Congrats to Sinth!
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Congrats to the Winner!
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Thank you everyone! :D This has been the happiest custom hearthstone card day of my life. ^^ My second win here in a row and the same day, Trump uploads a review that includes 2 of my customs cards and highlights one of them as his top card of the week. This really motivates me to keep going! Thank you so much everyone and hope you enjoy the theme of this and the next week's contest!
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