Can someone explain to me that why my polkelt didn't worked?

Submitted 3 years, 5 months ago by

Here is my replay:

https://hsreplay.net/replay/KuFjpH72LTHbvKQM2i7WRn#turn=6b

On my turn 6 I play Polkelt and on my turns 7 and 8 I draw 1 cost cards as if Polkelt reverse ordered my deck!?

Am I missing something? Can someone explain the reason to me..

  • Aramchek's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 495 50 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    Here is my replay:

    https://hsreplay.net/replay/KuFjpH72LTHbvKQM2i7WRn#turn=6b

    On my turn 6 I play Polkelt and on my turns 7 and 8 I draw 1 cost cards as if Polkelt reverse ordered my deck!?

    Am I missing something? Can someone explain the reason to me..

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  • MurlocAggroB's Avatar
    COMMENT_COUNT_900_HS 1170 904 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    Astromancer Solarian's Deathrattle shuffles your deck. Any card that shuffles something into your deck will undo Polkelt's effect. This is intentional according the devs, to make the deck feel more like an actual deck of cards.

    A man is lying on the street, some punks chopped off his head

    I'm the only one who stops to see if he's dead.

    Hmm. Turns out he's dead.

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  • Aramchek's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 495 50 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    This is ridiculous! Solarian should be shuffled in my reordered deck. A deathrattle cannot reshuffle my deck!?

    I think this is a bug..

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  • Aramchek's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 495 50 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    Ok I've made a research and found out that what you are saying is correct even if I think it is a bug and shouldn't be like that. Here is an explanation:

    Cards (Bombs, Soul Fragments, etc) put into your deck also shuffles the deck: https://youtu.be/fXoB1bbpqRk?list=UUbt1SGMrWj5Q7TMXAfmTERQ&t=551

    When you think of a real card game, if you shuffle a card into your deck, you normally don't shuffle your entire deck. You take the shuffled card and put it in a random spot in your deck. I think Blizzard implemented the shuffle effect incorrectly in the begining and didn't wanted to fix it when they introduced Polkelt to the game..

    I'm not a Magic player and never wathed a Magic game before. I wonder if they shuffle their entire decks when they want to add a card to their decks?

    Very strange behaviour..

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  • Erodos's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 945 1019 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    Shuffle means shuffle. I understand your frustration, but this is not a bug. Also, in a real card game you always shuffle your entire deck, if you just put it in a random spot you know where it approximately is. If you shuffle it it could be on the top or the bottom without you knowing so. This effect is implemented correctly, and this thread makes me not want to play real card games with you since you don't seem to grasp how shuffling works.

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  • Pezman's Avatar
    Staff Writer 2235 2226 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago

    I had this same issue awhile ago (playing Mozaki OTK). Had the perfect turn 4 Polkelt, then my opponent shuffled a bomb and I was back to square one. It took me a minute to realize what happened, but I do think it makes sense overall. Like Erodos said, shuffle means shuffle.

    "Be excellent to each other." -Bill and Ted

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  • Nearthel's Avatar
    Eldritch Horror 470 24 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago
    Quote From Aramchek

    When you think of a real card game, if you shuffle a card into your deck, you normally don't shuffle your entire deck. You take the shuffled card and put it in a random spot in your deck.

    The only way for that spot to be random is to shuffle the entire deck.

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  • thazud's Avatar
    Duskrider 265 93 Posts Joined 06/05/2019
    Posted 3 years, 5 months ago
    Quote From Aramchek

    When you think of a real card game, if you shuffle a card into your deck, you normally don't shuffle your entire deck. You take the shuffled card and put it in a random spot in your deck. I think Blizzard implemented the shuffle effect incorrectly in the begining and didn't wanted to fix it when they introduced Polkelt to the game..

    I'm not a Magic player and never wathed a Magic game before. I wonder if they shuffle their entire decks when they want to add a card to their decks?

    Very strange behaviour..

    Yes, they do. Every time. Because that is how you shuffle. Unless the card states otherwise, e.g. add it the bottom of your library.

    Polkelt is a perfectly fine card. You just have to build your deck around it. It funny how many players does not get the whole shuffle thing. I've read quite a lot of threads about it. 

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