New Mage Spell - Ring Toss

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A new Rare Mage Spell, Ring Toss, has been revealed!

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  • Arthas's Avatar
    Robot Black Lotus 1265 5754 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    A new Rare Mage Spell, Ring Toss, has been revealed!

    Ring Toss Card Image

    Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating!


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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1890 5542 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Its just cute little card, both in design and effect. Secrets in mage are hardly anything to snuff at, and being able to do it twice for 4 mana is just insane.

    Highlander will want it. Not so sure about tempo mage though.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1585 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    I must point out.. this card's flavor makes no sense.. what's the connection between throwing rings at a turtle and discovering secrets + casting them?

    is this turtle a mage?

    Literally unplayable!! I don't care if this card turns out to be good -10 in design.

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  • Pezman's Avatar
    Staff Writer 2235 2220 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Obvious comparison to Arcane Keysmith. No body, but double Secrets when Corrupted. I'm calling it playable, but not great.

    "Be excellent to each other." -Bill and Ted

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  • Caro's Avatar
    Dragon 2215 2485 Posts Joined 03/12/2020
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago
    Quote From DoubleSummon

    I must point out.. this card's flavor makes no sense.. what's the connection between throwing rings at a turtle and discovering secrets + casting them?

    is this turtle a mage?

    Literally unplayable!! I don't care if this card turns out to be good -10 in design.

    Maybe the reward for winning is a secret? :D 

    Regardless of design, it'll see play. In Highlander now and maybe in some future decks, it's quite slow as you'd be playing this on Turn 6 without any mana cheating. Mage secrets are good enough for this to see play.

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  • Brandon's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1350 2486 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Okay blizz/HS team, what were they smoking? Because this card is OP AF. Arcane Keysmith was pretty much must include in WILD secret mage and highlander mage, and Ring Toss is powercreeped version of Arcane Keysmith, and Ring Toss is a spell, meaning it gets generated a lot. WAIT IT'S ALSO A CORRUPTION CARD! This means that Y'Shaarj, the Defiler gives you the corrupted version for free... so it's 10 mana get a lot of free cards, and 4+ free secrets if you played at least 2 corrupted copies of Ring Toss... oh no...

    Standard: Really strong card, will see play in nearly every mage deck. It's just that good, and mage often have multiple big cards. Also fits perfectly in highlander mage, and i think highlander mage might rise back to high tier 2/tier 1 if they include Y'Shaarj, the Defiler package instead of most of the dragon package, for even more secrets and stuff. Highlander decks with a huge board after Y'Shaarj, the Defiler and random discovered Counterspell and stuff will be really hard to remove... and people WILL complain about it....

    Wild: "AHH sheet, here we go again." Secret mage will probably dominate in the meta again, all because of Ring Toss replaces Arcane Keysmith. Okay it might be hard for secret mage to corrupt it, but it might fill the role of a reload card, so you get more secrets after using a Cloud Prince. It will also see play in highlander and OTK mage decks, because this just increases the odds of getting Ice Block even more times.

    When you open a lot of Ring Tosses, don't dust them. Because this will surely get nerfed. Even at 5 mana it will see a lot of play, and it will still be considered a must include...

    RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.

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  • economicaooc's Avatar
    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Not great in any aggressive mage list, and I'm not overly excited about this in quest mage or similar.

    You can put pretty much anything that generates value into reno mage, so this goes in just like everything else.

    This post is discussing the wild format.

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  • PLANETCRUNCH's Avatar
    E.V.I.L. Dragon 820 1248 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    This is a strong card, and mage doesn't even need to slot it in their deck since they have so many discover spell mechanics.

    Powerful by itself, if Mage somehow has a Yogg'Saron deck this will be included, since having a 10/10 body and casting 2 secrets is great tempo.

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  • Thraxus's Avatar
    1060 339 Posts Joined 05/08/2020
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago
    Quote From Brandon

    Okay blizz/HS team, what were they smoking? Because this card is OP AF. Arcane Keysmith was pretty much must include in WILD secret mage and highlander mage, and Ring Toss is powercreeped version of Arcane Keysmith, and Ring Toss is a spell, meaning it gets generated a lot. WAIT IT'S ALSO A CORRUPTION CARD! This means that Y'Shaarj, the Defiler gives you the corrupted version for free... so it's 10 mana get a lot of free cards, and 4+ free secrets if you played at least 2 corrupted copies of Ring Toss... oh no...

    Wild: "AHH sheet, here we go again." Secret mage will probably dominate in the meta again, all because of Ring Toss replaces Arcane Keysmith. Okay it might be hard for secret mage to corrupt it, but it might fill the role of a reload card, so you get more secrets after using a Cloud Prince. It will also see play in highlander and OTK mage decks, because this just increases the odds of getting Ice Block even more times.

    When you open a lot of Ring Tosses, don't dust them. Because this will surely get nerfed. Even at 5 mana it will see a lot of play, and it will still be considered a must include...

    My comment refers to Wild. I think you overestimate the usefulness of this card especially in Secret Mage. The obvious comparion is Arcane Keysmith which is not an auto-include in secret mage deck lists. My Secret Mage does not run it and probably won't run Ring Toss either. The corrupt will be difficult to pull off due the low mana curve (Aluneth is the highest cost card). In Highlander Mage this is far better and will probably be run, but I don't see this as OP.

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2245 2626 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    The artwork and name don't really communicate the effect at all.

    This can be quite good/annoying if you do Corrupt it. 2 Secrets for 4 mana is nothing to scoff at. Unfortunately, if you can't Corrupt it, then it's just bad. People naturally compare this to Arcane Keysmith when it isn't corrupted, although I also think Ancient Mysteries is a good comparison to illustrate how weak it is without corruption.

    This is a problem that most Corrupt cards (so far) share, which might be what causes its downfall.

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  • Trimutius's Avatar
    1580 2533 Posts Joined 03/16/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Arcane Keysmith but without body, when corrupted slightly better, but really can only be considered in Y'Shaarj, the Defiler deck as one of the worse cards but just to fill out the value.

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  • BloodMefist's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 850 804 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Annoying secret generation for control mage, woo. I'm annoyed by the effect, but severely disappointed by the flavor, or lack thereof.  There are so many secret related things you can have in a fair, like a house of mirrors or some guessing carnival game, but they went with a ring toss of all things.

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Arcane Keysmith is a pretty strong card, and this can get double the effect. Paying 1 extra mana for a secret is worth it for the flexability you get from the discover. Getting 2 secrets for 4 mana is just insane value. And I don't imagine corrupting this will be too difficult at only 4 mana.

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • ElSabidon's Avatar
    Salty Dog 1030 685 Posts Joined 06/07/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Secret Mage has some tools to generate value and tempo, like Apexis Smuggler and, more importantly, Cloud Prince, which corrupts this card while providing a 4/4 body and a Fireball. Assuming the Secret that triggers Cloud Princes battlecry is still online, it also allows to trim down on the discovered secret pool from a newly corrupted Ring Toss, which gives you reliability in getting the secrets you need for the game state.

    The deck seems insanely synergistic but also seems like it will fold heavily if all pieces aren't stranded together at the same right time, making it highly unreliable and making the deck overall not very competitive; however, the highrolls the deck provides when the cards align perfectly make Secret Mage a possible threat in the new expansion providing some new synergies show up, because the deck can use Yogg-Saron, Master of Fate as endgame, for example.

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  • Hydrafrog's Avatar
    Gul'dan 1840 3268 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Just thinking about how hard it would be to corrupt in Secret Mage, it may not find too many places in decks like that.  However, with Dragon Mage and Highlander Mage still very much in the game for standard, I can see a number of decks running this regardless if they are secret focused or supported. 

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  • UVE's Avatar
    1180 832 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Cool effect, bad design. :(

    By The Holy Light!

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  • DarkFrostX's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 830 1229 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    This seems reaaaaally good, most Mage decks are control decks, which will make this be played 90% of the time corrupted.

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  • SilverWolf's Avatar
    Tauren Chieftain Addict 990 1085 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Even in uncorrupted form is very strong imho for it's mana cost: Mage secret 3 mana and just 1 mana for a discover effect, it have strong tempo play for 1 mana less on discover.

    In it's corrupted version it's 2 secrets (6 mana) and 2 discovers (like 3.5 - 4) mana.

    Very strong

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  • JackJimson's Avatar
    670 673 Posts Joined 11/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    I'm a little unimpressed but does have some niche uses. The main advantage for me is the card is a discover, which means you can decide what to get depending on the game state or situation. And when corrupted, you get two rolls to get the card you want.

    I think this will see play as a discovered card not as a card you put in your deck.

     

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  • Horus's Avatar
    Detective Pikachu 2565 3339 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    The corrupted Artwork had me like : is this Mal'Ganis ?

    * Beyonce's flavor intensifies *

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  • allthehype's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 630 739 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    It needs a 5 mana card to be corrupted... And then it's two semi-random for 4 mana. At second glance this doesn't seem any good to me.

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  • FrostyFeet's Avatar
    Senior Writer Derpcorn 2170 1449 Posts Joined 10/20/2018
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    The flavor is a hard sell for me as well, and the card seems rather slow. I'm still expecting to see this thanks to the amount of random generation Mages have :D

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  • Samzy's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 370 191 Posts Joined 05/31/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    This will see definite play in control/highlander decks. It’s a pretty strong card when corrupted. 

    No idea what they were thinking with the flavour though..

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  • DescentOfDragonsOp's Avatar
    530 353 Posts Joined 12/02/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    secret mage potential

    TOTAL CORRUPTION

    TOTAL POWAAAAAAA

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  • MenacingBagel's Avatar
    815 721 Posts Joined 09/24/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Seems a bit bad the earliest you can play this is 6 so its sort of like already having the two secrets in your hand to play them except you can also hero power or something I guess

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  • NebuchadnezzarHS's Avatar
    Supporter 2025 1394 Posts Joined 06/14/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Good enough to even see play in Wild Secret (Reno) Mage

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  • Lundy's Avatar
    Little Devil Teemo 1555 707 Posts Joined 06/21/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Only good if corrupted, but you're very happy to get this from random card generation.

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  • KillaFIsh's Avatar
    375 250 Posts Joined 07/10/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Another strong card for secret mage to stand on.  Also, I love the corrupted turtle art.

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  • Input's Avatar
    470 259 Posts Joined 06/01/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Doesn't make the cut in regular secret mage, but highlander secret mage has plenty to corrupt with and could enjoy the added value.

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  • Fisguinho's Avatar
    The Raven 1190 411 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Secret mage is back baby

    All hail the banshee queen.

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  • Sparkinarius's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 715 471 Posts Joined 07/18/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    This is at odds with itself as most Mage secrets are tempo based, while corrupting Ring Toss for its maximum effect is slow. Secret Mage doesn't run this, and I don't think Highlander Mage does either as the only two secrets they care about are Ice Barrier and Flame Ward.

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  • BigE's Avatar
    Peasant 1175 590 Posts Joined 05/28/2020
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Nope. 

    Chumbawumba is the worst band name. 

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  • slychd's Avatar
    Sparklepony 1175 484 Posts Joined 05/30/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    This card is very good in standard and really good in wild.

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  • Geno9999's Avatar
    Metrognome 1620 1210 Posts Joined 11/10/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Probably gets slot in Control Mage decks, especially when the decklist is already crowded to fit in the whole secret package.

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  • PopeNeia's Avatar
    Darkmaster 640 841 Posts Joined 07/06/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    I think you can probably slot this into Highlander Mage for a bit more survivability and potential counterplay.

    This ain't no place for a hero

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  • Psymon's Avatar
    Red Riding Hood 1505 371 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Good corrupted for mague and also for rogue. Secret archetypes greatly welcomes this little turtle.

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  • Draketh's Avatar
    Darkmaster 1565 1395 Posts Joined 04/02/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Very strong, secret Mage is definitelly going to be a thing again

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  • sule's Avatar
    Dinosaur 785 796 Posts Joined 08/21/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    It's OK, the biggest problem is that Secret Mage doesn't feel like it's going to be very powerful in Standard. The place this could make it is in Reno Mage.

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  • randomfan's Avatar
    Elemental 1255 744 Posts Joined 03/17/2019
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    More secret mage support for Standard. Is the available secret pool good enough that we will want to run secret mage in standard?

    Unfortunately, common sense isn't as common as it should be.

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  • ShadowsOfSense's Avatar
    1500 1111 Posts Joined 10/23/2018
    Posted 3 years, 4 months ago

    Favourite card, favourite card, TURTLE TURTLE TURTLE!

    Obviously I'll be running this in every Mage deck until it rotates. Good if it Corrupts... but is it worth losing that art?

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