New Hunter Minion - Sunscale Raptor

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A new Rare Hunter Minion, Sunscale Raptor, has been revealed!

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  • Arthas's Avatar
    Robot Black Lotus 1265 5754 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    A new Rare Hunter Minion, Sunscale Raptor, has been revealed!

    Sunscale Raptor Card Image

    Discuss this card below or head on over to the card page to give it a rating!


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  • Tumbleweedovski's Avatar
    Protector of Elwynn 1470 598 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    Will The Marsh Queen finally be viable?

    Arena > Wild > Standard

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  • Caro's Avatar
    Dragon 2215 2485 Posts Joined 03/12/2020
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    This card can represent infinite value for hunter, which hasn't been seen before for the class. This card would likely survive on turn 1 with 3 health, so there's a high chance you'll get good value

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    I kind of like the idea of a dinosaur Pogo-Hopper for hunter, but in reality it just isn't going to work out.

    Obviously, this is much more of a meme-y strategy, but even for a meme deck this will just be too slow and inconsistent to be played. There are simply too many hoops to jump through.

    You have to draw a raptor, then damage it and have it survive, then rinse and repeat. The problem is that hunter is bad at drawing, and doesn't really have any way to "ping" the raptors to consistently trigger the frenzy. And even then each raptor is only going to shuffle in 1 raptor, meaning that you will never be able to multiply your raptors and get 50 of them shoved into your deck.

    Maybe with Dire Frenzy and a ton of draw you could get this to work, but even if you do manage to pull it off, the reward isn't even that significant.

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • MurlocAggroB's Avatar
    COMMENT_COUNT_900_HS 1170 903 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago
    Quote From KANSAS

    Obviously, this is much more of a meme-y strategy, but even for a meme deck this will just be too slow and inconsistent to be played. There are simply too many hoops to jump through.

    On the other hand, Dire Mole with a strict upside. I can't imagine Midrange Hunter not using this card.

    A man is lying on the street, some punks chopped off his head

    I'm the only one who stops to see if he's dead.

    Hmm. Turns out he's dead.

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago
    Quote From MurlocAggroB
    Quote From KANSAS

    Obviously, this is much more of a meme-y strategy, but even for a meme deck this will just be too slow and inconsistent to be played. There are simply too many hoops to jump through.

    On the other hand, Dire Mole with a strict upside. I can't imagine Midrange Hunter not using this card.

    Fair enough. I got a bit caught up in the possibility of infinite value and forgot to actually look at the card :P

    One thing you have to consider when adding this to your deck is whether or not you actually want the second copy shuffled in. In some decks, drawing an extra vanilla minion, even one with good stats, isn't ideal later in the game. It all depends on what deck you are playing.  

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1890 5542 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    The best thing about this card is that its a 1 mana 1/3 beast. And that alone makes it worthy of inclusion into most face hunters, let alone a more tempo beast build. The fact that this one can get bigger is not necessarily a good thing, given that most tempo-face hunters go for face and no one wants a 3/4 in the late game when a Kill Command is needed. That said, if you need a good early game beast, this one comes a calling in spades.

    Maybe Tol'vir Warden gets included into core. And then this would be legit a threat to trigger its frenzy

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  • Brandon's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1350 2486 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    I think this will be an amazing card for hunter, because it's effect is easy to trigger and it has premium 1 drop stats. The only bad thing about Sunscale Raptor is that it needs a lot of draw, which hunters often lack.

    Standard: Will see play in Aggro/FACE Hunter because it's a good 1 drop, and it MIGHT see play in some kind of memey Sunscale Raptor deck which would function kinda like Pogo Rogue.

    Wild: Even though Hunters in Wild are very rare, i think this will certainly fit in The Marsh Queen hunter, and maybe replace Raptor Hatchling in that deck. (But honestly both might be core cards.) Luckely Sunscale Raptor only shuffles another Sunscale Raptor into your deck, imagine if it shuffled a buffed version of a Zombeast from Deathstalker Rexxar into their deck.. (Thank yogg they thought about that.)

    RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago
    Quote From Tumbleweedovski

    Will The Marsh Queen finally be viable?

    No, this pretty much worse than Raptor Hatchling in Wild

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    I think this card will be in almost every hunter deck.

    Good Stats for 1 Mana and the ability is pretty good too.

    Challenge me ... when you're ready to duel a god!

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    Dire Mole at worst, an escalating threat at best.

    Probably not gonna be used for its intended effect (especially since in Midrange Hunter you kinda don't want some vanilla statted dino in the later stage but rather some bigger or stickier stuff)

    Still a good sign for a return to Midrange Beast Hunter (I can't even tell you how tired I am of seeing only Highlander Hunters)

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • Synnr7's Avatar
    Winter Whisperer 1040 624 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    The frenzy here just looks like a fun upside. But the card itself is just good. Hunter can always use a tough early beast very effectively. 

    Casual Dragon Cardgame enthusiast. 

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  • UVE's Avatar
    1180 832 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    1 mana 1/3 beast with an interesting effect.

    I think that every Hunter will use them.

    By The Holy Light!

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  • GoddammitDontShootMe's Avatar
    Splendiferous 2145 1903 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    1 mana 1/3 is good. If played early, it will almost certainly survive a hit, then you have a 1 mana 3/4 in your deck somewhere. If you're lucky, maybe you'll shuffle in a 1 mana 5/5.

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  • Anathemos's Avatar
    540 133 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    What does “permanent +2/+1” mean? If I play a second-generation (3/4) Sunscale Raptor, does it stay 3/4 after it’s silenced or returned to hand?

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  • AnAngryBadger's Avatar
    645 216 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    I'm pretty sure it just means the buffs will stack, I'd assume it still becomes a 1/3 when silenced regardless of how many times it's been shuffled

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  • Pezman's Avatar
    Staff Writer 2235 2220 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago

    Ok, a 1-mana 1/3 is almost always good. Obviously you can look at Dwarven Sharpshooter, Northshire Cleric and pre-nerf Mana Wyrm just to name a few. But Dire Mole saw a lot of play and didn't even do anything! Plus this has a really neat effect.

    "Be excellent to each other." -Bill and Ted

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  • JackJimson's Avatar
    670 673 Posts Joined 11/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 1 month ago
    Quote From Anathemos

    What does “permanent +2/+1” mean? If I play a second-generation (3/4) Sunscale Raptor, does it stay 3/4 after it’s silenced or returned to hand?

    No is certain yet, but I expect it changes the base stats of a minion. For example Horrendous Growth or Jade Golems. So it immune to silence or sap effects.

    As for the card, I expect to see it in hunter decks even for the stats alone. As for the text, I am not too sold on it. I think it depends if they give hunter better card draws on the core set or the expansion. 

    The way I understood the text, it will be the base copy shuffled back into your deck. So 3/4 will be it's biggest form.

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  • Hydrafrog's Avatar
    Gul'dan 1840 3268 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    As long as you have [Hearthstone Card (Animated broom) Not Found] or something else to help you damage it and survive, then you're golden

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  • og0's Avatar
    Red Riding Hood 1570 1062 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    If it keeps it's stats is there some kind of combo here?

    All generalizations are false.

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  • BigE's Avatar
    Peasant 1175 590 Posts Joined 05/28/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    Looks fun to play. 

    Chumbawumba is the worst band name. 

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  • Topandito's Avatar
    905 478 Posts Joined 03/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Worst case this is a Dire Mole and I don't think that the size of the minions is small enough to make the shuffled versions that weak a draw later on.

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  • samwisetarly's Avatar
    330 119 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Is it bad? Yes. Am I going to be playing for fatigue combos with this? Absolutely.

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  • Thonson's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 1740 1713 Posts Joined 03/24/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    The sooner you can get this in play, the more likely you will be able to get the effect.  With some luck you could basically create a never ending deck of "Jade Raptors".

    Quick!  Someone give me something clever to write here.

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  • TheDarkLord's Avatar
    Planeswalker 1045 249 Posts Joined 02/02/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    As others have pointed out, this has potential to escalate the same way Pogo-Hopper does, although not in the same way.  Hunter's card draw might not be good enough to get a lot of mileage out of this card.  I would have preferred it in paladin, where it could be tutored out with Call to Arms, Call to Adventure, or Crystology, but I guess that would have been too powerful.

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  • bardozan's Avatar
    380 250 Posts Joined 09/12/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    1 mana 1/3 beast with a possible upside. Will definitely find its place alongside the other 1-drop, Webspinner.

    OBLIVION!

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  • Horus's Avatar
    Detective Pikachu 2565 3339 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    That's some premium 1 drop right there.
    I just wonder if the effect can and will stack 

    Struggle with Heroic Galakrond's Awakening? I got your back : 

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  • h0lysatan's Avatar
    Zombie 1065 790 Posts Joined 12/03/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    This and new core set discover beast is totally synergized. I just hope this get more support later. Especially good since Voracious Reader still in Standard

    Knowledge is Power

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  • Vision136's Avatar
    Partygoer 360 71 Posts Joined 03/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    It's a 1 mana 1/3 beast, it will see play no matter what, the upside is a great bonus

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  • Riffraff's Avatar
    755 370 Posts Joined 04/30/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    I can't wait to see this effect in action, and to play it in Hunter!

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  • Kerrek's Avatar
    Refreshment Vendor 675 101 Posts Joined 07/27/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Is this worse than Dire Mole? How many decks want to draw a 4/3 in the late game?

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  • shky's Avatar
    Pirate King 895 196 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    was thinking about this, if this card stacks, it can be some kind of new jade for hunters but cant find it anywhere if it stacks or not

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  • slychd's Avatar
    Sparklepony 1175 484 Posts Joined 05/30/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    This isn't terrible, and the art is quite cute.

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  • Alfi's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 1790 1375 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    This is actually a clever design but in wrong class

    -=alfi=-

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  • bela's Avatar
    335 152 Posts Joined 01/19/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    new 1 mana staple for hunter decks detected

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  • ArrowSh0t's Avatar
    160 142 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    something like pogo dont think it will be meta breaking depends on the cards in the expansion though

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  • Grumpy000's Avatar
    1880 1159 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    intersting

    I am 69 years old and still reach Legend

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  • fox503's Avatar
    115 12 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Something like kingsbane effect ?

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  • NerdyMcNerd's Avatar
    Peon 1225 196 Posts Joined 04/13/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    This definitely looks like an auto include for most hunter decks.

    Disclaimer: if the above is factually incorrect or complete rubbish it is definitely both intentional and  comedy genius.

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  • TheLastCardInYourDeck's Avatar
    165 10 Posts Joined 04/17/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    I hope so!

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  • Skotony's Avatar
    Zombie Chow 475 173 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Seems decent in paper, but some card draw would be needed if you constantly put another beast in your deck

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  • l4chsnacken's Avatar
    340 180 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    This is the hunter quest all over again, except without the draw. Bad card.

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  • louzy82's Avatar
    210 41 Posts Joined 06/04/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Loving this card already!

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  • MarioBros's Avatar
    60 12 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Pogo's brother :-)

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  • bananenparty's Avatar
    Card Designer Enthusiast 1045 199 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I honestly love this card.
    Hunter didn't have any fun decks in forever, maybe this will make that change.

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  • shelkem's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 375 117 Posts Joined 03/23/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    This is a tremendous tool for Midrange Hunter to get some value later in the game, definitely worth experimenting and will see play! I love dinos ahjahahh

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  • mayhern's Avatar
    Wizard 355 294 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Very good 1 drop and works well on a beast centric deck!

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  • Koetti's Avatar
    1095 863 Posts Joined 11/21/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Not very competetive at first glance. Hunter doesn't have good card draw, and this is unlike Pogo-Hopper stats on only 1 minion.

    And yeah, it's a good early beast (and possibly good in the mid-game) for Beast Hunter, but that archetype took quite a hit with the loss of Kill Command, Houndmaster, and Tundra Rhino.

    But maybe can Headhunter's Hatchet, Scavenging Hyena, and that new card, Selective Breeder, provide enough support for that deck, and make Sunscale Raptor viable that way?

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  • AmigoGP's Avatar
    250 142 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    wild quest hunter support .Hunter needs draw card ,but this is not great when in the late game you want your big stuff cards and you get this 1 mana card that is buffed.

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  • Lemushki's Avatar
    Squirtle 1110 1025 Posts Joined 03/22/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Want to see more huunter stuff before I make a final opinion on this one. But it has potential if the rest of the set is right. Now.... 3 stars

    Lemushki - The one and only since the 2006 rebranding.

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  • meisterz39's Avatar
    925 1200 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Sunscale Raptor seems awesome if you can get him down early, but given the high number of 3 damage removal tools in the core set (Eye Beam, Quick Shot, Holy Smite, Lightning Bolt, Drain Soul), if you don't trigger its frenzy pretty early, I think it's going to be very easy to deal with.

    The other challenge is Hunter's historically weak draw tools, but maybe the new Selective Breeder helps you to really snowball this effect.

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  • jaybee's Avatar
    Explorer of Dragons 235 13 Posts Joined 07/04/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    seems decent.

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  • linkinboy0's Avatar
    Headmaster 1235 503 Posts Joined 07/07/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    It seems fun like Queen Carnasa was, but we know how that worked.

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  • Inf4mous's Avatar
    Vampire 570 139 Posts Joined 07/09/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I really like this card has potential

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  • JodyV's Avatar
    Pikachu 400 206 Posts Joined 05/31/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    So it stacks?

    I've been here a while; just hanging out in the background. 

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  • Dermostatic's Avatar
    Eldritch Horror 535 228 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    This card is clearly a little sillier than others, but the effect is super-interesting and I'd personally love to try it out in a more control-oriented Hunter deck.

    As others have pointed out, it's not terrible early game with 1/3 stats, so it might find a home somewhere, for a little while.

    Started playing HS in May, 2015. The bad news: I missed the excitement of 'Naxx out?' and GvG. The good news: I never met an Undertaker.

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  • Alleria's Avatar
    Eevee 1275 863 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I like this card, maybe good for aggro Hunter too?

    ♡ u 4ever 2008 - 2022

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  • Mootropic's Avatar
    195 5 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    A must have for most Hunter decks.

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  • allthehype's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 630 739 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    This looks like a lot of fun! 1/3 is always a good 1-drop and could be really strong if you get the Frenzies going. Too bad Hunter lacks draw engines since this have a lot of potential, like with Dire Frenzy.

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  • Hiei's Avatar
    COMMENT_COUNT_200_HS 480 223 Posts Joined 03/21/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    It's a food 1 drop for hunter but the frenzy seems a little complicated to activate, 3 damage is pretty easy to do, the first one may be triggered if played on turn 1 but the other will came far too late to continue the buff chain. For me its a 1 mana 1/3 beast that put a 1 mana 3/4 beast into your deck and thats all. So not really op but decent in a beast hunter deck

    Murlocs <3

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  • KanzakiGin's Avatar
    Lion's Guard 745 208 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Seems like endless raptor loop is coming... and coming... and coming... and coming...

    Rogue DH

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2245 2626 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    The growing potential of the card is neat, although it seems pretty easy to stop. Play it on turn 1, and unless you're lucky enough to draw the buffed Raptor on turn 2, it'll probably only be buffed once throughout the whole game.

    Although on the plus side, it is a 1 mana 1/3 which are basically always playable.

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  • ElSabidon's Avatar
    Salty Dog 1030 685 Posts Joined 06/07/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Sunscale Raptor's effect on a class with lots of card draw is insane. In Hunter, where the closest thing to card draw is Tracking, its effect is less powerful. That being said, and although drawing 1 mana 3/4 or 1 mana 5/5 might not be enough in terms of sheer power, one cannot forget the tempo swing on board with such beefy minion for such little mana that can be splashed into any turn on the later stages. Also, Animated Broomstick can make this card be fast. A 1 mana 3/4 or 1 mana 5/5 Rush minion is very strong in midrange match-ups.

    Rating cards on coolness factor rather than predicting power because I like screwing up rating averages (and because I suck at predicting real power levels, but we'll ignore that LUL)
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  • Erodos's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 945 1019 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Dire Mole with upside, for a class which is really dependant on a good one drop. Especially now that Dwarven Sharpshooter is going away. I think this will get played in every Hunter deck for the forseeable future.

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  • DarkFrostX's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 830 1229 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I remember when some time ago it was mentioned that Deathstalker Rexxar was not going to support new cards after his year in standard. I was really happy to see that this end up not being the case.
    So yeah, really happy to merge this with another great beast, maybe Vicious Scalehide

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  • Thendes's Avatar
    350 140 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Solid 1 drop that gives good tempo plays.

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  • FortyDust's Avatar
    Pumpkin 1190 1897 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    You put this in the deck because it's a 1-mana 1/3. You are happy when it gets value, but you should not count on it.

    A greedier deck might try to bank on buffing it and playing it later in the game, but it's still kinda iffy.

    Will definitely see play for the stats, but I don't see a whole strategy emerging.

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  • barnabsx's Avatar
    Sparklepony 695 66 Posts Joined 06/04/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    scaling and rolling

    Coin go... brrrrr

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  • frenzy's Avatar
    COMMENT_COUNT_200_HS 945 474 Posts Joined 05/30/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I know it has already been discussed. I really do want to cast Dire Frenzy on this !! :D

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  • FrostyFeet's Avatar
    Senior Writer Derpcorn 2170 1449 Posts Joined 10/20/2018
    Posted 3 years ago

    The scaling effect seems decently strong, but I'm just not convinced that a 1-mana stat stick is a good topdeck later in the game and it might be diluting the primary game plan of the deck, whatever it might be. Not to mention that Hunters are notorious for their lack of draw.

    And playing a 10+ Attack (if not more) Sunscale Raptor is going to be a Hunter achievement, isn't it.

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  • SilverWolf's Avatar
    Tauren Chieftain Addict 990 1085 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    This is the cousin of that Un´goro raptor and I like it!

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  • darkoprk's Avatar
    Magma Rager 345 151 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Good stats for 1 drop Im sure this will be in a lot of hunter decks in standard, Wild not so much.

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  • sebomatikus's Avatar
    Face Collector 495 66 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Don't care if this is really good or not but I'm definitely going to build an "all minions are dinos" hunter deck in wild with this guy in it.

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  • Fedrion's Avatar
    Zombie 1675 733 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Low power, but never underestimate a card that can go infinite.

    Papa Nurgle wants to share his gifts.

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  • Megasharpie's Avatar
    Mankrik's Wife 360 144 Posts Joined 08/06/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    Dire Mole+, which was run very widely. Good card. 

    At this point I have spent too much money on these games to quit. 

    Now pass me another pack, and lets see what I pull. 

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  • burgoskid's Avatar
    210 218 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    good 1 mana drop with an upside.

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  • jacob1487's Avatar
    465 218 Posts Joined 03/27/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    In some ways, this card reminds me of the generated cards from the old OG hunter quest, but that is where it ends. This one doesn't require as large a deckbuilding condition, and is itself, a great standalone card.

    Do I think it'll be a great 1 drop?
    Yes.

    Do I think it'll be a build-around card with deck shifting levels of power?
    No, it'll just be another card in what I hope will be a good deck. 

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  • Car's Avatar
    185 226 Posts Joined 03/31/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    I love it. Finally swamp queen is potentially viable

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  • greenfrog100's Avatar
    Pikachu 200 140 Posts Joined 03/03/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Looks like Dire Mole got an upgrade in the form of a new hunter card!

    Ribbit

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  • Lemenya's Avatar
    65 8 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Without more card draw for hunter I don't feel this can work. And top decking a 3/4 is not great either.

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  • kkiiuu's Avatar
    340 169 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    might be preety good in midrange hunter but you have to run lot of card draw to get value or in some kind of control/fatigue (LUL) hunter

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  • ArcyroX's Avatar
    Ghost 955 214 Posts Joined 06/01/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    if some kind of a late game hunter deck rises, this will  be in it. otherwise I dont think it would be good enough with current tempo decks. reminds me of that card from ungoro that shuffles a 1 mana 4/3 raptor

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  • Lenkoz's Avatar
    85 25 Posts Joined 03/04/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    face possibly

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  • twiztedblue's Avatar
    70 18 Posts Joined 03/04/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Would be good in wild with the quest!

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  • johnyap11's Avatar
    220 136 Posts Joined 03/04/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Probably just going to be a dire mole for hunter. If buffed this could be interesting, but I'm not too optimistic with the effect actually triggering 

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  • calipsis's Avatar
    Nightfall 825 152 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Hunter OP

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  • CommanderHowl's Avatar
    Mankrik 125 13 Posts Joined 07/12/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Premium dire mole, will run this in my hunter decks 100%

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  • OverLord2109's Avatar
    135 141 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    a nice midrange hunter card whit a posible good effect

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  • serafim's Avatar
    310 137 Posts Joined 06/17/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Zoo Hunter confirmed?

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  • FortyDust's Avatar
    Pumpkin 1190 1897 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago
    Quote From Lemenya

    Without more card draw for hunter I don't feel this can work. And top decking a 3/4 is not great either.

    Good news, everyone! Scavenger's Ingenuity provides targeted Beast draw AND an additional buff. AND it's from Ashes, so it will still be in Standard after rotation.

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  • Osh92's Avatar
    505 224 Posts Joined 07/03/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Can work with hunter's quest)

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  • Daowen's Avatar
    Hero of Warcraft 1000 252 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    hunters and beasts, oh boy 
    think we will see this cheap card played a lot in combo

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  • Este's Avatar
    Bloodfeather 650 162 Posts Joined 04/02/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I think it's gonna be played in a Midrange Hunter if it can survive (but meta should slow down a bit after the rotation).

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  • theo333's Avatar
    Outlandish Rager 975 876 Posts Joined 03/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Quest Hunter is back baby. Beast shuffle is returned for 1-cost board flood.

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  • Jdeg9142's Avatar
    Funnel Cakes 325 44 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    The frenzy effect is mostly a downside looking back at how you were never ecstatic drawing the 4/3 raptor from Raptor Hatchling simply because you didn't want to draw 1 drops later in the game, even if they were overstated. That being said however, we don't know if blizz prints some weird synergy that makes the copies more appealing, as well as the fact that this is simply a Dire Mole which hunter's have historically wanted. This seems to be our replacement for Blazing Battlemage, all we need is something like Mark of Y'Shaarj to put hunter back on the map.

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  • Helweek's Avatar
    125 14 Posts Joined 06/04/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Hunter likes 1/3 beasts but i dont think the effect is going to matter much. I am definitly going to make infinite da indatakah hunter in wild though.

    NM the effect is frenzy not deathrattle. Definitly worse.

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  • Elfensilver's Avatar
    595 663 Posts Joined 03/14/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Any 1/3 beast should be playable, but I wonder if this makes the cut. Yes, it has a clear upside, but this will force some awkward trades, and I would assume that the frustration about these and the comparably low reward would limit the play of this card.Maybe in a deck with lots of draw - which is not hunter as we know him.

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  • Ethardoth's Avatar
    Harpy Lieutenant 435 389 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Hunter craves on card draw, this can't be good. I know Raptor Hatchling could be pinged, so this is better in that aspect, but both cards' upside will too often be a downside.

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  • Maou's Avatar
    65 14 Posts Joined 03/08/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Good for arena, not so good for standard

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  • MarcoHS's Avatar
    Scholomance Surveyor 325 97 Posts Joined 06/02/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Good card, hunter happy to play it, even without draw support

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  • darkjak's Avatar
    Shadow Rager 860 1147 Posts Joined 07/06/2019
    Posted 3 years ago
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  • Smilewine's Avatar
    Enjoys Cake 650 97 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    As someone who loves hunter (second class to golden 500w with reno-control-hunter) and really dislikes face-hunter etc decks, I am up for the challenge of I N F I N I T E value 

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  • iLaz's Avatar
    290 37 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Too slow and inconsistent. May be actively bad in the late game when you are looking for strong cards and draw this.

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    After hearing that Starving Buzzard is going to be unnerfed in wild, this suddenly becomes much more interesting.

    I can see this being a powerful asset in a draw-heavy/deck-thinning aggro hunter deck.

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • Trimutius's Avatar
    1580 2533 Posts Joined 03/16/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Well a dire mole with slight upside, should be decent 1 drop

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  • MoonEevee's Avatar
    Eevee 340 56 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    A very strong beast and 1 drop for hunter

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  • GreatTichu's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 370 234 Posts Joined 03/06/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    We need more silence stuff to stop those swarms!

    For The HORDE!

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  • BloodMefist's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 850 804 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Since we know that Dire Frenzy will be a part of the next year, Hunter will have some very spicy shuffle/buff mechanics to play with. Now they just need a bit of card draw...

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  • Mawryk's Avatar
    605 131 Posts Joined 06/07/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    As everyone has already said, just being a 1/3 beast makes it a solid Hunter card.  Upside is a bonus.   If the buffs stack, even better.  A late-game 2/4 is not as exciting, although it would be a cheap beast if Hunter has enough beast synergies after we know the core/expansion list 

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  • dembro's Avatar
    Peon 375 317 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    A nice 1-drop with Beast synergy and a nice bonus if it can be copied or cycled. I'm assuming the buffs stack. 

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  • Darkthistle's Avatar
    380 144 Posts Joined 06/16/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Seems like a solid 1 drop for hunters, and can even flex decently into NON-SMORC hunter, if that is ever a thing again. 

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  • JoeyJojo48's Avatar
    Peon 630 230 Posts Joined 06/11/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Seems like a pretty decent 1-drop? It's nothing crazy, but I could see it making the cut in an aggro deck. Or if there are some shuffle shenanigans with Dire Frenzy or something if they get more support

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  • gama33's Avatar
    180 23 Posts Joined 07/27/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    more beast agro

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  • Dreams's Avatar
    Banned Pikachu 340 290 Posts Joined 11/05/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    Solid 1 drop for hunter but hunter needs more card draw. Maybe a card like if you're holding a beast draw 2 cards.

    Banned for spamming.

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  • OldenGolden's Avatar
    Snow-Covered 690 131 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Ok, when I read this one, I imagine the frenzy effect sends a copy of the card, with a buff, into your deck, which would mean a 3/4 with frenzy that then shuffles a copy of itself into the deck with frenzy, and so on. This being part of an expansion, along with info that all classes will have some access to card draw, means that this guy could end up being seen a LOT. That bit about "permanent" +2/+1 makes me wonder. . . when that 3/4 gets hit and shuffles, is it adding that 2/1 to a 3/4, giving you a 5/5 with frenzy in your deck? That seems kinda bananas, i would assume it's shuffling a 1.0 Sunscale in there, giving you bunches of 3/4 raptors.

    Of course, if all this thing does is shuffle a 3/4 raptor with no frenzy, then it's just an ok to good 1 drop.

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years ago
    Quote From OldenGolden

    Ok, when I read this one, I imagine the frenzy effect sends a copy of the card, with a buff, into your deck, which would mean a 3/4 with frenzy that then shuffles a copy of itself into the deck with frenzy, and so on. This being part of an expansion, along with info that all classes will have some access to card draw, means that this guy could end up being seen a LOT. That bit about "permanent" +2/+1 makes me wonder. . . when that 3/4 gets hit and shuffles, is it adding that 2/1 to a 3/4, giving you a 5/5 with frenzy in your deck? That seems kinda bananas, i would assume it's shuffling a 1.0 Sunscale in there, giving you bunches of 3/4 raptors.

    Of course, if all this thing does is shuffle a 3/4 raptor with no frenzy, then it's just an ok to good 1 drop.

    I am 99.9% certain that "permenent" means it will, in a sense, buff the base stats. Meaning that the shuffled copy won't be a 1/3 with a +2/+1 buff, but a 3/4 with no buff. So yes, the buffs will stack. If they didn't stack the card wouldn't really make sense. And even though it does stack, I don't think it will be OP. By the time you have gotten it to a 1 mana 5/5, you will have had to draw, play, and trigger the same dinosaur 3 times. At the point in the game a 1 mana 5/5 isn't really that crazy.

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • Bathala's Avatar
    245 11 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I like it!

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  • Lookwedont's Avatar
    Taurajo Innkeeper 415 152 Posts Joined 01/19/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    Good card for aggressive decks, but does nothing to push a new hunter archetype

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  • FortyDust's Avatar
    Pumpkin 1190 1897 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago
    Quote From KANSAS
    Quote From OldenGolden

    Ok, when I read this one, I imagine the frenzy effect sends a copy of the card, with a buff, into your deck, which would mean a 3/4 with frenzy that then shuffles a copy of itself into the deck with frenzy, and so on. This being part of an expansion, along with info that all classes will have some access to card draw, means that this guy could end up being seen a LOT. That bit about "permanent" +2/+1 makes me wonder. . . when that 3/4 gets hit and shuffles, is it adding that 2/1 to a 3/4, giving you a 5/5 with frenzy in your deck? That seems kinda bananas, i would assume it's shuffling a 1.0 Sunscale in there, giving you bunches of 3/4 raptors.

    Of course, if all this thing does is shuffle a 3/4 raptor with no frenzy, then it's just an ok to good 1 drop.

    I am 99.9% certain that "permenent" means it will, in a sense, buff the base stats. Meaning that the shuffled copy won't be a 1/3 with a +2/+1 buff, but a 3/4 with no buff. So yes, the buffs will stack. If they didn't stack the card wouldn't really make sense. And even though it does stack, I don't think it will be OP. By the time you have gotten it to a 1 mana 5/5, you will have had to draw, play, and trigger the same dinosaur 3 times. At the point in the game a 1 mana 5/5 isn't really that crazy.

    Yes, "permanent" means it actually changes the card, a lot like Corrupt permanently changes the card.

    And if you're drawing this with Scavenger's Ingenuity, it will definitely get crazy.

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  • Karmin's Avatar
    Zombie 280 142 Posts Joined 02/12/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Fatigue hunter anyone ?

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  • DrunkDonuuut's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 195 158 Posts Joined 03/01/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    This might look ordinary, but since hunter got many discover-from-deck cards, this could actually be broken once buffed. 

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  • 6t6's Avatar
    270 14 Posts Joined 10/15/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    But even then it's not really pogo-hopper, as only the one shuffled into the deck gets the buff, right? You would need to either only include one or hope you keep drawing the same buffed one to get insane value off of this card...

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  • 6t6's Avatar
    270 14 Posts Joined 10/15/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    But you're buffing a permanently buffed minion, which means it should be a 5/5 if you can manage to draw the same one again. Then a 7/6, etc.

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  • Guenh's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 725 633 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I don't like it. Sure 1 mana 1/3 are strong, but i'm not convinced by the "infinity mechanics". You don't want draw a turn 10 a 1 mana 4/3 that don't do nothing

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  • Lundy's Avatar
    Little Devil Teemo 1555 707 Posts Joined 06/21/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Watch out for Wonchi! This won't see play. Neat effect, but they've tried similar before and it's just too slow for any real value.

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  • randomfan's Avatar
    Elemental 1255 744 Posts Joined 03/17/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I really like what  this gives Hunter. We all know that Hunter will mostly push aggro and this gives them some continuing resources for it.

    Unfortunately, common sense isn't as common as it should be.

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  • brayanpedraza's Avatar
    120 36 Posts Joined 03/12/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Maybe good for beasts hunter

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  • Thraxus's Avatar
    1060 339 Posts Joined 05/08/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    It's a 1 Mana 1/3 Beast. That alone is pretty good already, the effect puts it over the top

    English is not my native language, so please excuse occasional mistakes

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  • Forpayz's Avatar
    245 91 Posts Joined 09/04/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    3 stars. Nothing more

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  • NebuchadnezzarHS's Avatar
    Supporter 2025 1394 Posts Joined 06/14/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    On itself a terrible card, but paired with the unnerfed Starving Buzzard will be great synergy.

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  • Kossrocks's Avatar
    430 145 Posts Joined 11/15/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I hope this will be viable, seems fun

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  • Sirgeekalot's Avatar
    Rexxar 225 139 Posts Joined 01/24/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    seems slow, but the infinite value stack might tempt folks to try it out. i dunno, it might have a chance

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  • KingMicahhh's Avatar
    Banned 375 282 Posts Joined 11/30/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    good card

    Kenny's little poet. 😇

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  • JFK's Avatar
    Curious Pair 1070 621 Posts Joined 07/31/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Dire Mole, except this Frenzy can be an upside as well as a downside when you're looking to finish the match. Still no support for infinite shenanigans, unless you want to pull these with Selective Breeder and Tracking.

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  • Psychopomp's Avatar
    Agamaggan 495 176 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Oh no it's pogo, but self shuffling

    4 Mana 7/7

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  • Car's Avatar
    185 226 Posts Joined 03/31/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    Lovin it. Marsh queen has something amazing.

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  • williethesmurf's Avatar
    155 159 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Beast hunter... YEAAAH

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  • Apple2016's Avatar
    260 141 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    So much pressure to trigger that frenzy effect but it gets easier with the bigger ones

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  • ArchSpike's Avatar
    530 165 Posts Joined 06/24/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    This will be played on turn 1 and then just continue to put better versions of itself into your deck. Not reliable enough to build a deck around but a good tempo support.

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  • R217's Avatar
    Bulbasaur 340 139 Posts Joined 07/27/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Great card - infinite value for Hunter. And still it will be 1-cost card.

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  • TkGuardian's Avatar
    Salty Dog 480 153 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Nah

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  • omelette's Avatar
    235 138 Posts Joined 12/04/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    This will be nuts if it scales infinitely.  No way it doesn't get nerfed.

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  • Arenekhert's Avatar
    Taurajo Innkeeper 160 104 Posts Joined 02/28/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    i'm determined to make a wild gimmick deck

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  • sule's Avatar
    Dinosaur 785 796 Posts Joined 08/21/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Infinite* Value, which I am always a fan of. Not sure if this is something you really want to be playing with in most Hunter decks, but I think there's definitely a niche for Dire Frenzy style decks in the new expansion that this Beast will certainly slot into. Excited to see what he can do.

    I have spoken.

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  • erickcross's Avatar
    Charmander 180 144 Posts Joined 03/16/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    I agree 

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  • erickcross's Avatar
    Charmander 180 144 Posts Joined 03/16/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Cool 

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  • Draketh's Avatar
    Darkmaster 1565 1395 Posts Joined 04/02/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Very strong card, has great potential to snowball. I see this working with the right support

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  • coriolis's Avatar
    380 284 Posts Joined 07/03/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I suspect the Frenzy will be hard to trigger.

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  • Swoglin's Avatar
    135 136 Posts Joined 03/23/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    1 drop hype

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  • spy2395's Avatar
    800 174 Posts Joined 08/22/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    1 mana 1/3 beast will see play for sure

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  • tzdevil's Avatar
    145 84 Posts Joined 03/24/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    If it dies once without activating it's frenzy it's over, but a 1 mana 1/3 in early game is never bad.

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  • Sunman222's Avatar
    140 136 Posts Joined 03/24/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Really like the mechanics of this card.  Strong turn 1 card.

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  • Nevin's Avatar
    525 393 Posts Joined 06/14/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I can imagine a couple strategies here: If you empty your deck you can create a new minion each turn and then draw it immediately. Alternately, find a reliable way to pull your new ones from the deck, such as using lots of Beast tutors with this as the only Beast. It’s hard to believe that either one will work consistently, especially since this card doesn’t have Rush and is vulnerable to being removed before the Frenzy triggers. I think even the meme players will give up on it eventually.

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  • menethilcamper's Avatar
    150 32 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Good target for handbuffs and draw cards.

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  • ShadowsOfSense's Avatar
    1500 1111 Posts Joined 10/23/2018
    Posted 3 years ago

    I like the idea of this card, but I'm not sold on Frenzy. It feels like it'll be too easy for this not to proc and ruin any plans you had with it. Still, a 1 mana 1/3 Beast is enough on its own to see play.

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  • Sparkinarius's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 715 471 Posts Joined 07/18/2019
    Posted 2 years, 11 months ago

    Despite being a one mana 1/3, I think this is going to suffer the same fate as Raptor Hatchling where shuffling a one cost minion into your deck is a considerable downside (expect in Hatchling's case with Zombeasts against Warriors back in the day). I think drawing an extra one mana card in the midgame instead of a better on curve play is going to be brutal and may outweight the benefit of running a one mana 1/3 beast.

    For glory, honor, and gold!

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