New Neutral Minion - Primordial Protector

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  • Arthas's Avatar
    Robot Black Lotus 1265 5754 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    A new Epic Neutral Minion, Primordial Protector, has been revealed!

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  • Hiei's Avatar
    COMMENT_COUNT_200_HS 480 223 Posts Joined 03/21/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Draw a 10 mana spell and summon deathwing yay

    Murlocs <3

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  • Lemushki's Avatar
    Squirtle 1110 1025 Posts Joined 03/22/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Auto 5 stars, I think there is a chance this card might break the game....

    Just might because it requieres a deck with some real big stuff

    Lemushki - The one and only since the 2006 rebranding.

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  • calipsis's Avatar
    Nightfall 825 152 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Elemental synergy might make this preetty cool

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  • BigE's Avatar
    Peasant 1175 590 Posts Joined 05/28/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    I suppose control decks want this. Kind of a steeldancer, which is sometimes OK. 

    Maybe a survival of the Fittest Druid wants this? 

    Chumbawumba is the worst band name. 

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  • NerdyMcNerd's Avatar
    Peon 1225 196 Posts Joined 04/13/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    Well this is insanely overpowered. If you put enough big spells in your deck it's basically 8 mana 6/6 summon a 9 or 10 cost minion and draw a big spell.

    Disclaimer: if the above is factually incorrect or complete rubbish it is definitely both intentional and  comedy genius.

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  • AmigoGP's Avatar
    250 142 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Druid coming in hot.This and  survival of the fittest looks very disgusting.You can even cheat it out on turn 6 with lightning bloom .

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  • meisterz39's Avatar
    925 1200 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Primordial Protector seems really powerful in the right deck, but it's not clear to me that a deck with huge spells also wants to run an 8 mana 6/6 - might just be too much top end to be viable.

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    It's similar to Spiteful Summoner, only slower and more reliable. It is 8 mana but it puts two bodies on the board and adds a card to your hand. The main problem is that it won't always have an immediate impact on the board. The spell will be too expensive to play, and the minion summoned may not be any good. 

    I may be underestimating this card, but outside of ramp druid I don't see this being broken.

     

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • FrostyFeet's Avatar
    Senior Writer Derpcorn 2170 1449 Posts Joined 10/20/2018
    Posted 3 years ago

    Oh no...I really disliked Spiteful Summoner, and although this does seem slower, I still fear what could happen.

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  • bardozan's Avatar
    380 250 Posts Joined 09/12/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Kinda like Spiteful Summoner. The text is similar, yet also different. You can add cheap spells into your deck with high-cost spells.

    It is also an improvement over Spiteful to draw that high-cost spell, instead of just revealing it. That high-cost spell can be played on curve as AoE.

    It doesn't provide the same tempo swing since it costs 8 mana, but still very, very solid.

    OBLIVION!

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  • Hydrafrog's Avatar
    Gul'dan 1840 3268 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Being able to cheat this out a few turns with The Coin and/or Lightning Bloom is sure to be annoying.  It's like Spiteful Summoner part 2.

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  • razor1995's Avatar
    Squirtle 145 12 Posts Joined 02/14/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    WILD: LPG Mage maybe? This card might see play in very specific decks.

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  • FortyDust's Avatar
    Pumpkin 1190 1897 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago
    Quote From AmigoGP

    Druid coming in hot.This and  survival of the fittest looks very disgusting.You can even cheat it out on turn 6 with lightning bloom .

    Exactly this. With two Blooms and a Coin, turn three. It's going to happen at some point.

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  • SilverWolf's Avatar
    Tauren Chieftain Addict 990 1085 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Very strong specific tutor and token summon despite of it's stats. 5 stars

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  • jacob1487's Avatar
    465 218 Posts Joined 03/27/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Spiteful summoner, but with elemental support? Interesting, and I like the "highest" cost aspect, but so far as I remember, the highest shaman spell is 8?

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  • Elfensilver's Avatar
    595 663 Posts Joined 03/14/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Looks like a card that may give rise to a new archetype akin to Spitefull decks. Mages have some elemental synergy and lots of spells, so they could very well use this. Shaman has (so far) only Tidal Wave and Runic Carvings, but it's an elementa and spell synergy so we'll probably get a ten cost spell for shaman. But the best fit would be Druid, with Survival of the FittestCenarion Ward and Guardian Animals, maybe in an Nzoth deck. Seems meta defining!

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  • ArrowSh0t's Avatar
    160 142 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    its like spiteful summoner but more cost? u draw the spell so next turn you can use it? 

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  • Dreams's Avatar
    Banned Pikachu 340 290 Posts Joined 11/05/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    Can't wait to play Primordial Druid

    Banned for spamming.

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  • h0lysatan's Avatar
    Zombie 1065 790 Posts Joined 12/03/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Draw a 10 mana spell and summon Darkmoon Rabbit.

    Knowledge is Power

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  • AnAngryBadger's Avatar
    645 216 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Spiteful summoner that always hits your biggest spell and draws it. I can definitely see this seeing play especially since unlike summoner you can still run smaller spells without breaking it

    If this were played by a mage who had used Deck of Lunacy, would it use the adjusted cost or the actual cost of the spell?

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  • Darkthistle's Avatar
    380 144 Posts Joined 06/16/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I think this will see play for sure. Tutored spell draw with minion generation. Too slow for aggro of course (duh), but clutch in control or mid-tempo with some fun build-around. 

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  • Dermostatic's Avatar
    Eldritch Horror 535 228 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    As others have pointed out: I'm getting serious Spiteful Summoner flashbacks. That was an exceptionally powerful card, and even though the meta has changed a lot since K&C, there will always be a place for tutoring cards. Especially Elemental ones that also summon a minion.

    On the flip-side, 8 mana is a lot for most decks to spend on a single card when you're essentially gambling for an impactful summon, and you also have to hope that your high-cost spells remain within the deck. Remains to be seen which set of facts is more true, but I'm nonetheless looking forward to messing around with Primordial Protector in the coming weeks.

    Started playing HS in May, 2015. The bad news: I missed the excitement of 'Naxx out?' and GvG. The good news: I never met an Undertaker.

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  • Synnr7's Avatar
    Winter Whisperer 1040 624 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Seems very strong. Draw + summon is a great effect. Will see play for sure.

    Casual Dragon Cardgame enthusiast. 

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Very strong card ! Gives you Draw, and Summons a Minion - defenitely will see play!

    Challenge me ... when you're ready to duel a god!

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  • Erodos's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 945 1019 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Cool card, but honestly just way too slow. Card draw is nice for some specific classes, and of course Spiteful Summoner was great, but having to both include enough expensive spells and 2 of this card makes your deckbuilding too restrictive for too little pay-off.

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  • DrunkDonuuut's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 195 158 Posts Joined 03/01/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    8 cost is very expensive, although the battlecry is impressive. Can see this viable in druid, but only druid maybe.

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  • shelkem's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 375 117 Posts Joined 03/23/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    That's fine to me!

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  • aposteljoe's Avatar
    COMMENT_COUNT_600_HS 1165 644 Posts Joined 06/18/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Is it to slow at 8 mana? But the effect is powerful: you are cheating out 16-18 Mana on turn 8 and draw a specific card on top of it. Even better to be played after Lightning Bloom on Turn 6. That can win you the game.

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  • shelkem's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 375 117 Posts Joined 03/23/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    It will be abused by Druids, we know that already :(

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  • bananenparty's Avatar
    Card Designer Enthusiast 1045 199 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    As it always draws your highest cost spell (which you are definately close to playing at turn eight or later) this is actually super insane. Obviously not an aggro card, but so much high roll potential I love it!

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  • AnAngryBadger's Avatar
    645 216 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago
    Quote From DrunkDonuuut

    8 cost is very expensive, although the battlecry is impressive. Can see this viable in druid, but only druid maybe.

    I can see shaman and mage getting decent usage out of it too, more mage though. They can run Grand Finale as their big spell that will also at minimum summon 2 8/8s next turn

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  • Shaftoe's Avatar
    855 43 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    If the game goes past Turn 8, this definitely bring a bunch of value. It's slow, though, both in terms of 8 mana as well as not affecting the board when played (apart from something like Darkmoon Rabbit.

    Quintessential Dad Legend player.

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  • Sevault's Avatar
    225 57 Posts Joined 06/02/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    If it functioned like Spiteful Summoner, it would be good. An 8-mana 6/6 that summons an 8/8 is potentially worth building around.

    If it drew a card, it would be insane. A huge board swing plus more fuel is insane in basically all control decks, maybe some midrange too.

    But it doesn't draw a card, it tutors a card, which makes it one of the strongest cards I've ever seen. Control Warlock can now play an 8-mana 14/14 that draws Twisting Nether. Shaman can play an 8-mana 16/16 that draws Eye of the Storm. Ramp druid can play an 8-mana 16/16 that draws Survival of the Fittest on turn 6, then follow it up with SotF on turn 7 and a board of 8/8 Clowns on turn 8. This card will 100% be nerfed, keep all your copies.

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Obviously a very powerful card just on paper, but I think it might be difficult to actually build a deck that wants this.

    At 8-mana it's not an instant tempo win like Spiteful Summoner was. Add to that the fact that the 4 Old Gods now pollute the 10-mana slot so the result probably won't always be that good.

    In a control deck this might just be too slow. It works in slow matchups for tempo, but the unreliable nature makes it a gamble.

    I think the best  way to use this would be in a midrange/tempo deck that runs a plethora of 8-cost spells....and the only one I can imagine right now would be some sort of Elemental Mage with Grand Finale

     

    Then again, this probably has some major support within the expansion itself so it will end up playable in some shape or form (at the very least it could be nuts in Arena)

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • MarcoHS's Avatar
    Scholomance Surveyor 325 97 Posts Joined 06/02/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Old mechanic. Could be strong in the right deck, if you don't draw the big spells before.

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  • Sevault's Avatar
    225 57 Posts Joined 06/02/2019
    Posted 3 years ago
    Quote From YourPrivateNightmare

    Obviously a very powerful card just on paper, but I think it might be difficult to actually build a deck that wants this.

    At 8-mana it's not an instant tempo win like Spiteful Summoner was. Add to that the fact that the 4 Old Gods now pollute the 10-mana slot so the result probably won't always be that good.

    In a control deck this might just be too slow. It works in slow matchups for tempo, but the unreliable nature makes it a gamble.

    I think the best  way to use this would be in a midrange/tempo deck that runs a plethora of 8-cost spells....and the only one I can imagine right now would be some sort of Elemental Mage with Grand Finale

     

    Then again, this probably has some major support within the expansion itself so it will end up playable in some shape or form (at the very least it could be nuts in Arena)

    A lot of the powerful value and control tools are leaving standard, and Warlock was already looking to dominate that field with the new Jaraxxus and the retention of Twisting nether. This card slots perfectly into that deck, so as long as the meta isn't overwhelmed with more aggro than controllock can deal with, this will have a place

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  • Pezman's Avatar
    Staff Writer 2235 2220 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Great card. We've seen many decks that can thrive with only a couple high-value spells (most recently pre-nerf Ramp Paladin, but also lots of Spiteful Summoner decks in the past). 

    "Be excellent to each other." -Bill and Ted

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  • Mawryk's Avatar
    605 131 Posts Joined 06/07/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I like it.  Great in decks that generate mana to get this early (waves at Druid).  Will definitely be trying to build decks around this card...

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years ago
    Quote From Sevault
    Quote From YourPrivateNightmare

    Obviously a very powerful card just on paper, but I think it might be difficult to actually build a deck that wants this.

    At 8-mana it's not an instant tempo win like Spiteful Summoner was. Add to that the fact that the 4 Old Gods now pollute the 10-mana slot so the result probably won't always be that good.

    In a control deck this might just be too slow. It works in slow matchups for tempo, but the unreliable nature makes it a gamble.

    I think the best  way to use this would be in a midrange/tempo deck that runs a plethora of 8-cost spells....and the only one I can imagine right now would be some sort of Elemental Mage with Grand Finale

     

    Then again, this probably has some major support within the expansion itself so it will end up playable in some shape or form (at the very least it could be nuts in Arena)

    A lot of the powerful value and control tools are leaving standard, and Warlock was already looking to dominate that field with the new Jaraxxus and the retention of Twisting nether. This card slots perfectly into that deck, so as long as the meta isn't overwhelmed with more aggro than controllock can deal with, this will have a place

    the problem is that Warlock tends to draw a lot so there's a really low chance that you can consistently slam your Protector with Nether still in deck. You can only run one Protector in that case (unless you also run some 6-cost spells as backup) and even if that's worth it, Warlock usually is more preoccupied with staying alive rather than developing random 8-drops (although it brings more consistency to corrupting Strongman so that might be a major factor)

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • Trimutius's Avatar
    1580 2533 Posts Joined 03/16/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Will definitely find a home... Like Guardian Druid with Survival of the Fittest can definitely run this

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  • serafim's Avatar
    310 137 Posts Joined 06/17/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Big spell *any-class* incoming!

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  • Inf4mous's Avatar
    Vampire 570 139 Posts Joined 07/09/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Very late game card

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  • Topandito's Avatar
    905 478 Posts Joined 03/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I mean it could be strong. It tutors for an important card so there is that. If it does see play, with the current selection of spells it is most likely to be in Druid....and I will hate it I'm sure if that happens.

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  • JoeyJojo48's Avatar
    Peon 630 230 Posts Joined 06/11/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    8 mana is a lot. A huge part of why Spiteful Summoner was good was that it came out mid-game, while this comes out late-game. I still think it's pretty good, but I don't think it's going to be meta defining. Probly best in Druid.

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  • Grumpy000's Avatar
    1880 1159 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    a very strong card !

    I am 69 years old and still reach Legend

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  • Brandon's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1350 2486 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    INCREDIBLE card for control decks, it guarantees that you draw your highest cost spell which is really good. Okay let me just list the highest cost spells for each class so far.

    DH: Cycle of Hatred/Expendable Performers/Fel Guardians. Seems like DH can only run it so far alongside some token synergy.

    Druid: Survival of the Fittest. That's a scary card for Clown Druid...

    Hunter: Nagrand Slam, Guardian Animals/Jewel of N'Zoth. I think Primordial Protector might get used in Deathrattle Hunter to guarantee draw Jewel of N'Zoth and maybe Nagrand Slam might finally see play in some kind of midrange deck? Seems surprisingly good.

    Mage: Grand Finale/Deep Freeze, Flamestrike/Mask of C'Thun. Probably will see play in some kind of control mage deck.

    Paladin: Libram of Hope and Commencement. These are the best targets for it, but one is a libram and will be discounted. But it's still a Libram of Wisdom on command. Commencement only fits in Big Paladin, which might get better thanks to Primordial Protector. (As long as you don't draw it with Commencement.)

    Priest: Idol of Y'Shaarj and Soul Mirror. I'm guessing Priest probably doesn't want Primordial Protector together with Idol of Y'Shaarj in one deck. Soul Mirror is a 1 off because it's a legendary, so that's not good enough to make Primordial Protector worth it. But priest will probably get some big removal spell i hope.

    Rogue: Sprint. Yeh rogue won't run it unless they get a really expansive spell that's good.

    Shaman: Tidal Wave. Just like in the animation, and also shamans highest cost spell after the rotation.

    Warlock: Twisting Nether and Deck of Chaos tutor. Seems pretty solid, Deck of Chaos decks needed some way to actually draw Deck of Chaos so this might help. On command drawing Twisting Nether is also really solid, but i'm not sure if that's good enough.

    Warrior: Commencement and Brawl. Well seems like it's probably going to see play in Big Warrior, just like Big Paladin. Tutorring Brawl isn't good enough, so it won't see play otherwise.

    Of course we don't know all the cards in the set yet, so this list can obviously change depending on what kind of cards get revealed. At least we do get a bit of insight in what it can do already.

     

    RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.

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  • dembro's Avatar
    Peon 375 317 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Yummy. Versatile enough to find a home in plenty of decks, hopefully it's not too slow. 8 Mana is probably fine. 

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  • Lookwedont's Avatar
    Taurajo Innkeeper 415 152 Posts Joined 01/19/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    Good control card. Would see play now because of the pocket meta we're in, but need to see the barrens meta to see if truly good

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  • olisee12's Avatar
    LeBlanc 200 7 Posts Joined 03/04/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    probably slow in wild, but will be plaid in standard in paladin/priest/mage/druid idk

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  • BloodMefist's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 850 804 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Spiteful Summoner 2.0 Seems a tad expensive for not guaranteeing board impact outside of some potential presence, but it should be decent-good as a late-game drop for greedy Control decks.

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  • DarkFrostX's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 830 1229 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years ago
    Quote From KANSAS

    It's similar to Spiteful Summoner, only slower and more reliable. It is 8 mana but it puts two bodies on the board and adds a card to your hand. The main problem is that it won't always have an immediate impact on the board. The spell will be too expensive to play, and the minion summoned may not be any good. 

    I may be underestimating this card, but outside of ramp druid I don't see this being broken.

     

    Spiteful also gave you two bodies, the card draw is good since you should be in your later turns to drop high mana spells, but still this feels too slow

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  • Alfi's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 1790 1375 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Spiteful elemental!

    -=alfi=-

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  • bela's Avatar
    335 152 Posts Joined 01/19/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    excellent value for mana

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  • darkoprk's Avatar
    Magma Rager 345 151 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    I can this is big spell mage or big spell shaman

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  • Koetti's Avatar
    1095 863 Posts Joined 11/21/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Could we see the return of Spiteful Druid?

    They already have some good minions, and they're about to get Druid of the Plains, soI wouldn't be surprised.

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  • frenzy's Avatar
    COMMENT_COUNT_200_HS 945 474 Posts Joined 05/30/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Combo, combo, combo!

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  • CardStone's Avatar
    190 60 Posts Joined 03/01/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Looks good on druid.

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  • Alleria's Avatar
    Eevee 1275 863 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    This really sounds like a Druid card, or maybe some Elemental Mage running Pyroblast too?

    Btw, I really love the comment above me, feels so painfully true XD

    ♡ u 4ever 2008 - 2022

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  • gama33's Avatar
    180 23 Posts Joined 07/27/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    mage or ramp druid decks can work with this

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  • iLaz's Avatar
    290 37 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Meh, not my cup of tea. I'm not really a fan of this Druid archetype.

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  • Mae's Avatar
    255 53 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    more impactful than spiteful summoner with a less strict deck restriction, but comes out 2 turns later. seems better as a tool in control decks than a curve topper in midrange like spiteful was.

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  • burgoskid's Avatar
    210 218 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Very strong. Pulls out a specific spell and minion to boot!

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  • Guenh's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 725 633 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Super strong card with insane battlecry. In any deck wher u can cheat mana and/or u will play some big spell (8+), u will run it for sure. U don't even build your deck around like we did with Spiteful Summoner . Nerf incoming?

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  • Vision136's Avatar
    Partygoer 360 71 Posts Joined 03/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Spiteful is back baby, and you can play smaller spells with it! Love it, even if it won't be the strongest

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  • GoddammitDontShootMe's Avatar
    Splendiferous 2145 1903 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I'd expect this to be run with big spells so you can summon big minions. A good number of cards will suck without their battlecry, but there might be even more that would be decent to good.

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  • greenfrog100's Avatar
    Pikachu 200 140 Posts Joined 03/03/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Too expensive for aggro decks imo but a very good card for control decks. This can tutor out a Survival of the Fittest for Druid or Psychic Scream for wild Raza Priest. It can also help tutor out OTK finishers as well as a bonus.

    Ribbit

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  • slychd's Avatar
    Sparklepony 1175 484 Posts Joined 05/30/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    This will undoubtedly be pretty good.

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  • Lundy's Avatar
    Little Devil Teemo 1555 707 Posts Joined 06/21/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    This will find a home somewhere, but will only be high T2 at best.

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  • randomfan's Avatar
    Elemental 1255 744 Posts Joined 03/17/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    A nice throwback to Spiteful Summoner. I always enjoy playing big anything, minion or spell, decks. I'm no good at them but the one in three or four times they work out for me are so satisfying. I'll be playing this guy in a high roll deck somewhere. This might even be fun to pair up with Spiteful in a wild deck.

    Unfortunately, common sense isn't as common as it should be.

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  • Horus's Avatar
    Detective Pikachu 2565 3339 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    That spark curiosity for me, to say the lease.
    It may just be a great valuable multi-class asset

    Struggle with Heroic Galakrond's Awakening? I got your back : 

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  • Psychopomp's Avatar
    Agamaggan 495 176 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    I mean maybe the ramp/nozdormu paladin, with elemental synergy.

    4 Mana 7/7

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1890 5543 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Its basically trying to ape Spiteful Summoner, but with an added twist that it will draw that spell out for you.

    The problem is that it costs 1 more (2, if we're comparing with spiteful pre-nerf) and that it draws that spell, which means you cant just jam two 10 cost spell in there and hope to hit it with this one twice consistently. Of course, you can always opt to play this along with the usual barrage of spells, but that would also more or less make it mandatory with broom or you just lose initiative.

    Maybe in druid, nothing more. Even then, I have to question whether there are simply just better cards you could be playing like Guardian Animals for example.

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  • johnyap11's Avatar
    220 136 Posts Joined 03/04/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    It's spiteful with the draw, but it comes much later - not too sure about this one, as the swing say from summoning a 10 drop is much less by turn 8. But as a neutral will probably see quite a lot of experimentation. Druid perhaps could use this well and ramp to it? 

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  • Me0203's Avatar
    Design Champion 750 497 Posts Joined 06/13/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    It's nice that I think I'll enjoy the broken card, for once. Elementals, randomness, and big guys? Swoon! 

    Better call Thrall!

     

     

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  • KanzakiGin's Avatar
    Lion's Guard 745 208 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Quite easy to play by including a 10-cost card

    Rogue DH

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  • Osh92's Avatar
    505 224 Posts Joined 07/03/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    This is the right type of RNG - controllable one )

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  • Divash's Avatar
    170 21 Posts Joined 07/03/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Potentially very useful card for big spells decks

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  • Kerrek's Avatar
    Refreshment Vendor 675 101 Posts Joined 07/27/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    In Wild, this is like Spiteful but worse because it is too slow. Someone will come up with a deck that wants to reliably draw its most expensive spell before turn 9, though, and then this will be used, not for the summon, but for the draw.

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  • shky's Avatar
    Pirate King 895 196 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    great effect with a good body, just need to be played before you draw the big spells in your deck

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  • Caro's Avatar
    Dragon 2215 2485 Posts Joined 03/12/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    I do like this card, very much 🥰 at first I thought it was shaman only, but it's a neutral 😱 Druid is gonna have a field day. (Maybe it's a class card in disguise) 

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  • Daowen's Avatar
    Hero of Warcraft 1000 252 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Scary card lol, druid will love it

    I'm not online       cat          it's just your imagination

     

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  • kkiiuu's Avatar
    340 169 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    really good in Spiteful Summoner deck and in control

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  • allthehype's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 630 739 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Big spell support, me like. Druid will love this with Cenarion Ward and Survival of the Fittest. Random effects are however unreliable, if you need to regain the board this is probably an awkward play.

    Oh, and the comparisons to Spiteful Summoner: I really enjoyed those decks and the fact that this always draw your highest cost spell makes this much more reliable and better. But slower, yes. You can't slam this bad boy on T6 like the summoner. Unless you're Druid, of course. :)

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  • Karmin's Avatar
    Zombie 280 142 Posts Joined 02/12/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Spiteful Summoner with tutor and always for highest-cost ? Well count me in.

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  • Fedrion's Avatar
    Zombie 1675 733 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Solid effect, awful body. Gonna try it (if I open it) in an Evolve Shaman package.

    Papa Nurgle wants to share his gifts.

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  • Skotony's Avatar
    Zombie Chow 475 173 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Tow slow, and too random - you really want a Taunt/Rush minion to be generated so you can have some board impact, but I guess some decks will still run it.

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  • ElSabidon's Avatar
    Salty Dog 1030 685 Posts Joined 06/07/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    You don't need to restrict your deck to big spells to play Primordial Protector. Hell, you don't even need big spells in your deck to play Primordial Protector, mid cost but impactful spells like a standard version of Spikeridged Steed (for some reason the first example that came to my head) are enough. What you need is a meta slow enough to get to turn 8 and, considering a fair amount of classes are losing aggressive burst, that might happen.

    Also, an elemental, so Grand Finale support, maybe? That card is already almost good enough to see play right now.

     

    Rating cards on coolness factor rather than predicting power because I like screwing up rating averages (and because I suck at predicting real power levels, but we'll ignore that LUL)
    Wins per class (2/6/22): DH-197; Druid-996Hunter-91«60; Mage-1056; Paladin-1126; Priest-746; Rogue-961; Shaman-1095; Warlock-871; Warrior-906

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  • Car's Avatar
    185 226 Posts Joined 03/31/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    Seems annoying but kinda slow. Don’t know how much play it will see

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  • Thendes's Avatar
    350 140 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Nice druid card can't wait to see it on day 1!

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  • brayanpedraza's Avatar
    120 36 Posts Joined 03/12/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Super OP card

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  • Lenkoz's Avatar
    85 25 Posts Joined 03/04/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    gamebreaking potential.

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  • ArcyroX's Avatar
    Ghost 955 214 Posts Joined 06/01/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    omg yes please! I want this in golden and everthing. crazy good meta defining card

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  • mayhern's Avatar
    Wizard 355 294 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Spiteful summoner with a better body and a draw. Great card!

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  • theo333's Avatar
    Outlandish Rager 975 876 Posts Joined 03/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Elemental Mage, summon, then Pyroblast.

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  • Thraxus's Avatar
    1060 339 Posts Joined 05/08/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    Auto-include in control decks. Easy 5 stars

    English is not my native language, so please excuse occasional mistakes

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  • Sparkinarius's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 715 471 Posts Joined 07/18/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    First application that comes to mind is Druid as they have Survival of the Fittest and Cenarion Ward that are central to Druid's gameplan (the former) and survivability (the latter). They also have Overgrowth and Lightning Bloom to get this out ahead of schedule. I could also see this in Libram Paladin to draw Libram of Hope since the deck will need more draw to replace Salhet's Pride and Blessing of Wisdom, not to mention Primordial Protector being an elemental and drawing Grand Finale in Mage. Overall, I think this isn't going to fit in all classes, but it will be extremely effective when it does fit.

    For glory, honor, and gold!

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  • burgoskid's Avatar
    210 218 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Very strong. Pulls out a specific spell and minion to boot!

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2245 2626 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Spiteful Summoner that always chooses your high-Cost spells, allowing you to run low-Cost ones without diluting the pool. And it also draws the spell.

    In other words, it's better than Spiteful Summoner. At this point, we just have to see if simply costing 2 more will actually be enough to kill the card, but it will definitely be tried out and is likely to find a home somewhere.

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  • l4chsnacken's Avatar
    340 180 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Probably costs too much.

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  • Unreal89's Avatar
    400 174 Posts Joined 06/02/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Interesting card, very specific card draw.

    Unfortunately too slow to be widely played in my opinion.

     

    The card has some potential, but otherwise, I think it can be better in a combo deck. Or rather some control-combo.

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  • Tumbleweedovski's Avatar
    Protector of Elwynn 1470 598 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    This makes me think of Jepetto Joybuzz. Bit more tempo, bit less of combo enabler, but I expect it to see similar amounts of play.

    Arena > Wild > Standard

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  • Forpayz's Avatar
    245 91 Posts Joined 09/04/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Nerf on this one

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  • JodyV's Avatar
    Pikachu 400 206 Posts Joined 05/31/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Seems huge to me

    I've been here a while; just hanging out in the background. 

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  • UVE's Avatar
    1180 832 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    8 mana is so slow, remember how Spiteful Summoner was nerfed to 7 mana and nobody uses it again.

    By The Holy Light!

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  • NebuchadnezzarHS's Avatar
    Supporter 2025 1394 Posts Joined 06/14/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Similar to Spiteful Summoner but cost more mana, so worse I guess.

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  • JFK's Avatar
    Curious Pair 1070 621 Posts Joined 07/31/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Yup, if Spiteful didn't see play on 7, I don't have such high hopes for this. Tbf it doesn't need a deck restriction, and it's definitely good in Druid and has serious potential in Mage and Shaman (if anything, because of Lightning Bloom), but seems overrated to me.

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  • Kossrocks's Avatar
    430 145 Posts Joined 11/15/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Weak version of spiteful summoner

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  • Megasharpie's Avatar
    Mankrik's Wife 360 144 Posts Joined 08/06/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    Big Spell tutor card, nice idea. I can see it in potentially mage. 

    At this point I have spent too much money on these games to quit. 

    Now pass me another pack, and lets see what I pull. 

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  • Sirgeekalot's Avatar
    Rexxar 225 139 Posts Joined 01/24/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    this is a monster card

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  • williethesmurf's Avatar
    155 159 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Looks good, shaman might have the better use of this for now

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  • Ethardoth's Avatar
    Harpy Lieutenant 435 389 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Looks really good, even though it's expensive. So much value. For some reason i thought initially this is a Mage card, Druid can really make a good use of this 

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  • KingMicahhh's Avatar
    Banned 375 282 Posts Joined 11/30/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    good card

    Kenny's little poet. 😇

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  • Apple2016's Avatar
    260 141 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Unfortunately most 10 mana minions are battlecries

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  • JackJimson's Avatar
    670 673 Posts Joined 11/19/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Card looks tailor made for big druid. The scary thing with this is there is no inconsistency with the mana cost of the summon. It will ALWAYS be the highest one. Even if you only include say 1 Survival of the Fittest in the deck, not only will this draw that card, it will also summon a 10-cost minion.

    May also have some value in an elemental mage with as the Grand Finale is still a card in standard and synergizes with this. 

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  • omelette's Avatar
    235 138 Posts Joined 12/04/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    Sick with survival of the fittest.

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  • erickcross's Avatar
    Charmander 180 144 Posts Joined 03/16/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Looks weak.

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  • GreatTichu's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 370 234 Posts Joined 03/06/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    Wow this set have a lot of tutor cards! I wonder of summoning Antaen demon after tutoring skull of Guldan lol

    For The HORDE!

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  • TkGuardian's Avatar
    Salty Dog 480 153 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years ago
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  • OverLord2109's Avatar
    135 141 Posts Joined 03/02/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    good

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  • sule's Avatar
    Dinosaur 785 796 Posts Joined 08/21/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I like that it's a Spiteful Summoner with card draw, and that can be pretty good. I think the biggest issue is that 10-Cost spells will often summon one of the Darkmoon Old Gods, none of which have very good stats. It's a decent build around, and might help us see the resurgence of minion-heavy big spell decks.

    I have spoken.

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  • Arenekhert's Avatar
    Taurajo Innkeeper 160 104 Posts Joined 02/28/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    the cost is maybe too high to see play, but a great tech card here for the right deck 

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  • R217's Avatar
    Bulbasaur 340 139 Posts Joined 07/27/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Nice, but we still have high cost mana cards which aren't strong enough.

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  • Draketh's Avatar
    Darkmaster 1565 1395 Posts Joined 04/02/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    Seems like a good card, will probably see play in either Druid or Mage decks

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  • coriolis's Avatar
    380 284 Posts Joined 07/03/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    As we could see during the theorycrafting event, this minion enables whole decks.

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  • spy2395's Avatar
    800 174 Posts Joined 08/22/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    not sure about the consistency of this card. also slow

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  • Riffraff's Avatar
    755 370 Posts Joined 04/30/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    If this can be cheated out, it seems like a really high power level.

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  • ImmWolf's Avatar
    Hero of Warcraft 420 75 Posts Joined 04/03/2020
    Posted 3 years ago

    Probably too expensive to make the cut but it will be really good if the meta allows it to be played.

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  • Swoglin's Avatar
    135 136 Posts Joined 03/23/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    OP

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  • Sunman222's Avatar
    140 136 Posts Joined 03/24/2021
    Posted 3 years ago

    The new spiteful summoner.

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  • ShadowsOfSense's Avatar
    1500 1111 Posts Joined 10/23/2018
    Posted 3 years ago

    Spiteful Summoner rides again? Costs a lot though, so probably not as busted as that was.

    Welcome to the site!

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  • TheDarkLord's Avatar
    Planeswalker 1045 249 Posts Joined 02/02/2019
    Posted 3 years ago

    I enjoy seeing some fun control tools get printed. My first thought was to try to build around it. The problem with that is that if you include too many high cost spells then the early game suffers, but if you don't include enough then there is a chance you'll draw all the spells before you have a chance to play this. It's a risk either way, but it will be fun to see what ends up being the best build.

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