Two Quests With One Stone - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

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Competition Theme: Two Quests With One Stone

It's time to band together to try and complete more Questlines together!

  • You must create a dual-class card that helps complete both Questlines for its classes
    • That's the Questlines from United in Stormwind, not any of the other Quests classes have had

ChickyChick is after some inter-class cooperation this week, so make sure your card is versatile enough for the job.

As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.


Competition Phases

Here are the phases of this card design competition

  • Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Oct 25 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Oct 30 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Oct 30 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Oct 31 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Oct 31 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Nov 1 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
  • Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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  • ShadowsOfSense's Avatar
    1500 1111 Posts Joined 10/23/2018
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago


    Competition Theme: Two Quests With One Stone

    It's time to band together to try and complete more Questlines together!

    • You must create a dual-class card that helps complete both Questlines for its classes
      • That's the Questlines from United in Stormwind, not any of the other Quests classes have had

    ChickyChick is after some inter-class cooperation this week, so make sure your card is versatile enough for the job.

    As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.


    Competition Phases

    Here are the phases of this card design competition

    • Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Oct 25 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Oct 30 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Oct 30 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Oct 31 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Oct 31 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Nov 1 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

    Discussion Thread Rules

    No thread rules were added to this season. Please populate and manually edit this thread with them.

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  • Wailor's Avatar
    Design Champion 640 707 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    Probably too simple, right?

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2245 2629 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    First idea.

    I'm unsure if the connection is strong enough if that makes sense. That's just sort of an inherent problem with some classes in this comp.

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  • linkblade91's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1700 2777 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    I wanted to use Arcane Cannon's old art now that it's been "retired" from Battlegrounds. I'm worried it's too good for the Warrior while being weird for the Mage, even if you consider a hypothetical Pirate expansion (hence the shark watermark).

    Edit: Another card. With Xavius on the table, succumb to the nightmare and embrace your rage! Assuming you use the Attack to go face, Xavius' effect is ultimately neutral; however, given the Druid's Armor gain and the health restoration of the Warlock, you can get ahead of your opponent's life total and then go for broke. Might drop it to 2 damage/Attack, 'cause a board clear could end the game very quickly lol

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  • Nirast's Avatar
    Senior Editor Snow-Covered 910 905 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    So Demon kinda put out an open challenge for a Pally/Priest card on Discord, and here's my response to that:

    Or a card for the two brothers:

    Feedback:

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    Wailor: Really cool design and very flavorful, I like it!

    Demonxz95: Looks good, but it can get really low with the cost, it being almost guaranteed 0-mana in Hunter after a point. Either nerf the damange and adjust the cost, or make it only target minions.

    linkblade91: Arcane Barrage will only deal 2 or 3 damage usually, and it doesn't really justify Pirate Mage. Xavious is a lot better, I quite like it!

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  • Neoguli's Avatar
    Duskrider 880 596 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    Something to complete both DH and Mage Questlines. The effect also has relations to both classes - Mage has Polymorph-eqsue effects, while this one transforming into a Demon gives DH something to play with. Both classes also care about card draw - one to complete the quest, the other to dig for Ignite and such.

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  • linkblade91's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1700 2777 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    How about something really different: a dual-class weapon for classes that don't normally have weapons! Mechanically speaking, a weapon with >0 Attack should count for both Questlines, as you gain Attack for the Druid and can hit minions with your face as the Warlock. Flavor-wise, the Druid + the Warlock = The Emerald Nightmare, the corrupting influence on Ysera's Dream world. As you succumb to the Nightmare and the pain, you grow stronger and/or lash out in fear and panic, leading to the increase in Attack. This plays a little game with your opponent, as they figure out how best to defeat you without the weapon growing out of control.

    Feedback:

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    Neoguli - If you're looking to transform an enemy minion into something small, this is strictly better than the Polymorph: Boar of old. It's still arguably better even for your own minion, as you get to Discover for maximum flexibility (not to mention the card draw). Not saying this is bad - we've come a long way from that card - but something to consider.

    Nirast - "Cost" should be capitalized in Deliverer's text. I would also consider a better name. That said, I think Strength or Wisdom has solid flavor and is pretty straight-forward in satisfying both conditions. A little on-the-nose, though. I'd go with that one.

    Demonxz95 - I love it. Hero Power Mage is fun, and so can Hero Power Hunter. There is an inherent question of whether or not Questline Mage would use this card, since they don't care about their Hero Power, but no one technically said such a card has to be good in the Questline deck lol. All-in-all, one of my favorites so far.

    Wailor - I feel it's too simple, yes, to answer your question. It's just +1 Attack over Argent Squire; or, in another sense, you're trading opponent damage for self-damage to gain the Divine Shield, if we're comparing to Leper Gnome. Maybe simpler is better, though; very possibly I'm trying too hard with my ideas.

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  • cydonianknight's Avatar
    515 89 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    Very tricky prompt this week, for some combinations it's quite the thought exercise. 

    Here's my idea, a very simple combination of Hunter and Shaman. A versatile removal spell, with the possibility of gaining Overload depending on the level you pick. In terms of function, you have a Discover style interface with all three options, then you target the minion you want to kill. I'm also particularly pleased with how the art matches the colours of the card border. 

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  • BloodMefist's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 850 804 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    The idea is that you benefit more if the enemy plays it since you get to either play more SI:7 cards for Rogue quest, or higher cost cards for your Priest quest. The stat and cost increase would increase permanently and create new card, like how Horrendous Growth and Rattlegore work.

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  • Wailor's Avatar
    Design Champion 640 707 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    I already submitted because I won't have much time this week, but I wanted to give some quick feedback:

    Demonxz95
    Mage and Hunter are probably the classes with most interaction with their HP, so it makes sense for both.

    What doesn't make much sense is the flavor for Mage. Maybe if you use it a magical fire arrow and call it Searing Shot? Dunno, maybe I'm just nitpicking. The art is very cool despite not fitting Mage, though.

    linkblade91
    Out of your cards, I think I like Xavius the most. I agree with in that the damage and the Attack should be reduced to 2.

    Nirast
    Strength or Wisdom is my favorite card of the thread, both because of its flavor and because of how well Choose One and Outcast interact with each other.

    Neoguli
    Pretty cool card. Makes sense for both classes and the flavor is good. Maybe the art is a bit weird, but I get it's not easy to find something that specific.

    cydonianknight
    I like how it manages to combine the flavor of both classes, but I don't like the pseudo-Choose One mechanic. Maybe Overload for the excess damage? I don't know.

    BloodMefist
    Pretty fun card, but I don't think it would be used much. Still, it's cool and makes sense for both classes.

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  • AeroJulwin's Avatar
    Fan Creator 305 174 Posts Joined 07/08/2021
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    Here's my card. My main objective was to use two class-exclusive mechanics while subtly including both Questline requirements. I think I did a pretty good job, but would like to hear your opinions.

    The only thing I'm not sure about yet is whether it should also hit the enemy hero, so I might change that before submitting.

    Feedback
    My feedback I spend way too much time on got deleted, so excuse me if I'm a bit blunt.

    demonxc95
    like the Hero Power connection. Targeting only minions would be nice. Both classes already have a lot of reach.

    linkblade91
    Mage doesn't use pirates. Xavius is nice, but I don't think players can kill. Normally it refers cards/characters.

    I like the Scythe best, but I'm not sure whether it counts for Druid Questline and neither classes use weapons. Because (self)buffing weapons is more a Rogue thing, it should probably be a SI:7-weapon and for balance the effect should only trigger during your turn/while attacking.

    Nirast
    Deliverer works poorly because Questline Paladin has many handbuffs meaning you won't actually get a 1-drop from it and Priest has little control over how much you buff it.

    Strength or Power is great. It uses mechanics unique to both classes. In the right situation, both classes could still consider using the other choice. Worried about Chaos Strike and balance though.

    Neoguli
    Demon Companion combines Demon Hunter and Hunter, so it's a triple class card. The card draw is also out of nowhere and picking a target after discovering an effect is unusual.

    cydonianknight
    Like the effect, but it seems to use a Choose-mechanic, so effect-wise it would make more sense to be a Druid&Shaman card.

    BloodMefist
    Normally these kinds of cards have a positive/negative effect like Weasel Tunneler. Without this, because it doesn't belong the the same expansion as the Questlines, it will just be a dead card in standard at some point. Also, your opponent has no reason to play it because it will only benefit you if they give it back.

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  • linkblade91's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1700 2777 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    Good luck to the other finalists :)

    Six cards were 1-mana: half were Paladin, so those makes sense, but the others were not so that's interesting. Demon is the odd one out with his high-cost card.

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  • linkblade91's Avatar
    Senior Writer Serra Angel 1700 2777 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    Congratulations to Nirast! First time, IIRC :D

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar
    Toybox Tactician 1895 2309 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago

    Congrats to Nirast!

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  • Nirast's Avatar
    Senior Editor Snow-Covered 910 905 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 2 years, 5 months ago
    Quote From linkblade91

    Congratulations to Nirast! First time, IIRC :D

    Quote From anchorm4n

    Congrats to Nirast!

    Thank you both! Yes, this is indeed the first time I won, though I was extremely close once before. Really happy with it!

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