How to beat unnerfed Highlander Priest?

Submitted 3 years, 11 months ago by

I started playing HS after the nerf to Raza so never had to deal with this deck in a big way before.

I played 7 games on the wild ladder today at Bronze 10 and 6 of those games were this deck and I lost every game. Granted I was playing non-tier 1 decks like Spell Hunter & Quest Burgle Rogue, but still every game played out the same and I got completely destroyed.

For those who played it prenerf what worked? My only thought was bring back Bomb Warrior and just shuffle bombs like mad but aside from that (which is obviously inconsistent based on draws) I’m kind of at a loss. Any help would be appreciated - as much as I love the new ladder system quite frankly this was the single least fun day I’ve ever had with this game so if this is what Wild looks like now then I’ll just dust my Wild cards and jump back to standard.

  • ArngrimUndying's Avatar
    Draconically Dedicated 520 626 Posts Joined 06/11/2019
    Posted 3 years, 11 months ago

    I started playing HS after the nerf to Raza so never had to deal with this deck in a big way before.

    I played 7 games on the wild ladder today at Bronze 10 and 6 of those games were this deck and I lost every game. Granted I was playing non-tier 1 decks like Spell Hunter & Quest Burgle Rogue, but still every game played out the same and I got completely destroyed.

    For those who played it prenerf what worked? My only thought was bring back Bomb Warrior and just shuffle bombs like mad but aside from that (which is obviously inconsistent based on draws) I’m kind of at a loss. Any help would be appreciated - as much as I love the new ladder system quite frankly this was the single least fun day I’ve ever had with this game so if this is what Wild looks like now then I’ll just dust my Wild cards and jump back to standard.

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  • meisterz39's Avatar
    925 1200 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 11 months ago

    I don't play much Wild, but it looks like Pirate Warrior and Secret Mage are two good ways to pressure down Razakus Priest before it can assemble its combo.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1890 5543 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 11 months ago

    That's wild for you. Its horribly unbalanced, and therefore despite the many, many variety of decks that could exist in wild its all completely outclassed by the few tier 1 decks around.

    If you're looking to have some fun, just stick around the lower tiers.

    To counter raza priest, there's no many ways to tech against it since they can easily remove bombs and albatrosses from their decks with Wyrmrest Purifier. The best way is to simply aggro them hard before they can get their ball rolling. OTK and aggro decks tend to do very well against Raza priest.

    Another novel strategy is to allow them to assemble their combo, then remove their hero power with Grizzled Wizard+Sir Finley. At that point, all they have is a bunch of useless cards, Mind Blast and Kazakus. Survive that and youre in.

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  • iWatchUSleep's Avatar
    1095 819 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 11 months ago

    Any mage deck (bar Reno-galaxy mage)

    Mech hunter

    Pirate warrior

    Possibly odd rogue though I'm not too sure about that one. Same goes for mech paladin

    Anything that can gain tons of armor (odd warrior, druids...)

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  • Helios's Avatar
    The Cake Is A Lie 625 319 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 11 months ago

    In no way is Raza priest that oppressive. That deck shouldn't get any hate. Give the hate to the Quest Mage and Secret Mage players, thanks

    Helios#22419

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  • RavenSunHS's Avatar
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    Posted 3 years, 11 months ago

    Quest Mage and Darkest Hour Warlock should be able to have their combo online before the Priest can do much about it (barred some shenanigans).

    On the other hand, Raza Priest can easily be a t2 deck, or even a t1 one along with Even Shaman.

    Not oppressive, but definitely a strong deck in the meta. Possibly the most versatile of the field.

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  • Alfi's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 1790 1375 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 11 months ago

    You can shuffle them duplicate cards. Best are bombs.

    -=alfi=-

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  • GerritDeMan's Avatar
    Unicorn Reveler 525 264 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 11 months ago

    Honestly I think they just made a big mistake when they decided to unnerf Raza. Raza by himself may have been fine but combined with Shadowreaper Anduin he enables one of the strongest and most uninteractive combos in the game.

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  • Yusuke's Avatar
    295 187 Posts Joined 06/02/2019
    Posted 3 years, 11 months ago

    Quote From Author
    To counter raza priest, there's no many ways to tech against it since they can easily remove bombs and albatrosses from their decks with Wyrmrest Purifier.

    How is W. Pruifier a counter? You get random class cards, that means you can still get duplicates, I don't see how it is a good counter to Bombs or Albatross, because that Raza player still get some trash cards and this is the purpose of Bombs and Albatross.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1890 5543 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 11 months ago
    Quote From Yusuke

     

    Quote From Author
    To counter raza priest, there's no many ways to tech against it since they can easily remove bombs and albatrosses from their decks with Wyrmrest Purifier.

     

    How is W. Pruifier a counter? You get random class cards, that means you can still get duplicates, I don't see how it is a good counter to Bombs or Albatross, because that Raza player still get some trash cards and this is the purpose of Bombs and Albatross.

    Its being used as we speak in standard as a counter to bombs and albatrosses. Yeah, it can give you a duplicate, but chances are against it.

    Outside of rogue, there's no way to tutor those cards out. And though its not entirely foolproof, it provides a possible out that may prove decisive. Aside from this, I much rather have a class card than an albatross or 5 to the face any day.

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  • ArngrimUndying's Avatar
    Draconically Dedicated 520 626 Posts Joined 06/11/2019
    Posted 3 years, 11 months ago
    Quote From dapperdog

    That's wild for you. Its horribly unbalanced, and therefore despite the many, many variety of decks that could exist in wild its all completely outclassed by the few tier 1 decks around.

    If you're looking to have some fun, just stick around the lower tiers.

    To counter raza priest, there's no many ways to tech against it since they can easily remove bombs and albatrosses from their decks with Wyrmrest Purifier. The best way is to simply aggro them hard before they can get their ball rolling. OTK and aggro decks tend to do very well against Raza priest.

    Another novel strategy is to allow them to assemble their combo, then remove their hero power with Grizzled Wizard+Sir Finley. At that point, all they have is a bunch of useless cards, Mind Blast and Kazakus. Survive that and youre in.

    Thanks for these suggestions - I hadn't thought of Grizzled Wizard!

    But on the "just stick around lower tiers" that's not really possible anymore since the ladder is now based on MMR (unless I'm misunderstanding something)? As i said all of those matches were at Bronze 10 i.e. literally the lowest tier.

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  • ArngrimUndying's Avatar
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    Posted 3 years, 11 months ago
    Quote From iWatchUSleep

    Any mage deck (bar Reno-galaxy mage)

    Mech hunter

    Pirate warrior

    Possibly odd rogue though I'm not too sure about that one. Same goes for mech paladin

    Anything that can gain tons of armor (odd warrior, druids...)

    Yeah I can see hyper aggro being effective, which is a shame as I personally don't like that playstyle but if it gets really bad I might give it whirl

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  • ArngrimUndying's Avatar
    Draconically Dedicated 520 626 Posts Joined 06/11/2019
    Posted 3 years, 11 months ago
    Quote From Techwood

    In no way is Raza priest that oppressive. That deck shouldn't get any hate. Give the hate to the Quest Mage and Secret Mage players, thanks

    This isn't a salt thread it is an "asking people who played against the deck before what worked" thread. And if you read my post I state 6 out of 7 matches were that one deck - to me that's oppressive but you may have a different opinion.

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  • dymar's Avatar
    290 44 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 11 months ago

    Quest mage kills them and ita not to expensive to craft.

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