New Demon Hunter & Warlock Spell - Felosophy

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A new Epic Demon Hunter/Warlock Spell, Felosophy, has been revealed!

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  • Arthas's Avatar
    Robot Black Lotus 1265 5754 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    A new Epic Demon Hunter/Warlock Spell, Felosophy, has been revealed!

    Felosophy Card Image

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  • DarkFrostX's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 830 1229 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Looks good in either zoo or big demons for warlock.
    Also looks good for a midrange DH.

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  • Elfensilver's Avatar
    595 663 Posts Joined 03/14/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    There are legendary demons, are they? Because a 1mana get one good card gcard is definitely good enough to see play. 

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  • sinti's Avatar
    Senior Writer Chocolate Cake 2070 2774 Posts Joined 10/20/2018
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Well, this is certainly playable.

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  • Meteorite12's Avatar
    670 696 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    If you’re playing this, you’re gonna have a good target for it, so for 1 mana copying a good demon it seems pretty good

    Who needs consistency when you could have fun?

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  • GoliathTheDwarf's Avatar
    980 667 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I'm sure there's a lot of other implications, but right now I'm just wondering what Outcast will be like applied to the other classes. How much of an effect will is really have on the playstyle for warlocks or hunters who use the duel-class cards? 

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I can't imagine this card not being used at some point or another. It is very flexible and useful. There are a lot of Warlock decks and Demon Hunter decks that wouldn't mind getting an extra demon, and the buff is also nice. 5 stars.

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • theo333's Avatar
    Outlandish Rager 975 876 Posts Joined 03/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Turn 3 I play the Concede card if I don't have removal in my hand.

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  • BloodMefist's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 850 804 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    This card effectively cycles itself by adding another card from your deck to your hand, and comes with the nice benefit of buffing both as well.  Unsure if it will see play in DH, just because there aren't that many good hits besides Battlefiend.  I suppose Sightless Watcher wouldnt be awful, but I don't think DH currently has the demon infrastructure required to make this card see play.  Warlock on the other hand runs Flame Imp, Voidwalker, and Fiendish Servant in zoo, making it far more likely that this hits something cheap and useful.

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2245 2626 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    10/10 pun, and very solid card all around.

    Remember when Simulacrum was played in Quest Mage? Exactly.

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  • NegativeNemsy's Avatar
    405 206 Posts Joined 07/10/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    5 stars for the name of the card.  I was expecting a larger percentage of this set's cards so far to be puns.  The card's effect seems interesting and fair so 3 stars.

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  • Emptyness's Avatar
    Supporter 520 525 Posts Joined 03/16/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    I like that this is for locks as well. They had their fair share of "outcast" mechanics before, so it will fit them nicely. Now the question is - which demons are worth copying. Any good legendaries? - the prime maybe?

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    looks terrible to be honest...

    Tempo DH doesn't have time or the need to copy their weakest demons.

    Big Demon Hunter could possibly use it, but that deck doesn't even exist and after the Priestess of Fury nerf I don't think it ever will.

    For Warlock it's just a complete bust. Zoo probably doesn't care about this (not that it's necessarily bad, but I wouldn't waste a card slot on it) and Big Demon Handlock can't efficiently use the outcast effect (nor does it need to).

    The only gimmick I could see is using it in a Quest deck where you aim to discount a demon to 0 with the hero power (or the Dark Portal) and then copy that one for a big tempo play, but that seems incredibly inconsistent.

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago
    Quote From Demonxz95

    10/10 pun, and very solid card all around.

    Remember when Simulacrum was played in Quest Mage? Exactly.

    ...but Quest Mage was an OTK deck. There is no Demon OTK for Warlock or DH

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • UVE's Avatar
    1180 832 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Nice addition for zoolock. 2 4/3 Flame Imp looks strong on early.

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2245 2626 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago
    Quote From YourPrivateNightmare
    Quote From Demonxz95

    10/10 pun, and very solid card all around.

    Remember when Simulacrum was played in Quest Mage? Exactly.

    ...but Quest Mage was an OTK deck. There is no Demon OTK for Warlock or DH

    But if there is one in the future..

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago
    Quote From Demonxz95
    Quote From YourPrivateNightmare
    Quote From Demonxz95

    10/10 pun, and very solid card all around.

    Remember when Simulacrum was played in Quest Mage? Exactly.

    ...but Quest Mage was an OTK deck. There is no Demon OTK for Warlock or DH

    But if there is one in the future..

    then it would need to be one that specifically requires you to get more copies of a specific minion than you can put in your deck (which is why Simulacrum was used in the first place).

    Needless to say that will never happen because Team5 have stated that they don't like uninteractive OTK decks and tend to curb them whenever possible. This is a value card, and an inconsistent one at that.

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • Brandon's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1350 2486 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Good for big warlock and big DH, no good for pretty much nearly every warlock/DH deck. Just a super solid card. There HAS to be some big/strong dual class legendary for Both classes.

    Also notable synergy with Flesh Giant, this turns 1 Flesh Giant in hand into (best case scenario) a *1 mana 18/18. THATS REALLY GOOD.

    *Including cost of Felosophy.

    RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar
    Senior Writer 2245 2626 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago
    Quote From Brandon

    Good for big warlock and big DH, no good for pretty much nearly every warlock/DH deck. Just a super solid card. There HAS to be some big/strong dual class legendary for Both classes.

    Also notable synergy with Flesh Giant, this turns 1 Flesh Giant in hand into (best case scenario) a *1 mana 18/18. THATS REALLY GOOD.

    *Including cost of Felosophy.

    Flesh Giant is not a Demon, so that won't be happening.

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  • Brandon's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1350 2486 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Whoops should have probably taken a better look. Thanks telling me! Now i'm wondering why i thought it was a demon in the first place... lol

    RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.

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  • economicaooc's Avatar
    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Could be used to copy big demons in renolock. Copying big demons is good, but expired merchant combos provide more power by copying the resurrection cards instead.

    Probably doesn't see play in odd DH just because the only really great target is battlefiend, unless more strong odd demons are printed.

    Maybe in discardlock, where most of the demons are quite strong.

    Looking forward to trying this out in renolock, but I'm not overly optimistic.

    This post is discussing the wild format.

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  • MenacingBagel's Avatar
    815 721 Posts Joined 09/24/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Cheap copy and buff seem nice but the buff doesn't seem super substantial unless its on doubling imp or something. Although I undervalue bonus stats a lot.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1890 5543 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    This can copy Kanrethad Prime, and that's probably the best value in warlock for this card.

    In Dhunters, this is practically one of the best value cards in a big demons deck. Great even on discover.

    I love the design of cards like these, just plain value cards that are specific on its effect.

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  • Horus's Avatar
    Detective Pikachu 2565 3339 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Gimmicky but fun concept, at least on paper - curious to try it out

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  • PLANETCRUNCH's Avatar
    E.V.I.L. Dragon 820 1248 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    This is a strong card, not just because of it's effect but because of it's cost and flexibility.

    When the Boomsday Project came out, Warlock got Soul Infusion which gave the left most minion +2/+2 in stats. while it was a dead turn 1 it would be used for an impressive turn 3 with doubling imp creating 8/8 worth of stats across the board. This iteration of Zoo was popular until Year of the Mammoth rotated out.

    with this card, the zoo deck utilizing Imprisoned Scrap imp can double a single demon card to spread the hand buff even further, not including the hand buff that the felosophy can give with outcast. The current tempo demon hunter only has 2 demons in the current list, which I don't believe is enough to warrant using this card. 

    That said, like Warlock, Demon Hunter has a nice assortment of mid to big range demons, the two most popular being Preistess of Fury and Imprisoned Antaean, although Hulking Overfiend has seen some play as well. Warlock could get some benefit from multiple Enhanced Dreadlords, Imprisoned Scrap imps or even Flame Imps if they need more activators for Flesh Giant and Brittlebone Destroyer.

    it'll be interesting to see the decks this card winds up in, I believe it will be a staple for Demon Hunter and Warlock until it rotates in Standard

    Edit: I forgot that Warlock has The Dark Portal available as a tool for handlock decks, which can allow for a big demon to be discounted, and then duplicated with this card.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1585 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    In zoo this is one mana draw a card give it +1/+1 which is actually quite nice.. Now we need a demon that wants to be hand buffed, more than a voidwalker

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  • Hawk819's Avatar
    215 22 Posts Joined 03/23/2020
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    ZOOOO-Lou

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  • Grumpy000's Avatar
    1880 1159 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    worth a big demons archetype ...

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    This is very good - not only for Zoo , alltough i think this will see lot`s of play in Zoo.

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  • JFK's Avatar
    Curious Pair 1070 621 Posts Joined 07/31/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Pretty interesting. My mind went to zoolock, but it's pretty good with Voidcaller or just any demon in general, actually. In a big demon deck getting the outcast probably isn't even that important, which is great since you'll likely have problems with moving it in your hand.

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  • Dermostatic's Avatar
    Eldritch Horror 535 228 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Cringe reveal video aside, this is a pretty cool card. The Outcast effect is a nice bonus, but gaining extra demons is a nice effect. Part of me wants to say that this is an auto-include in Warlock decks since it's only 1 mana, but it remains to be seen what Demons come with this expansion.

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  • Guenh's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 725 633 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    The card is strong. 1 mana to duplicate a "victory condition" is insane....but the problem are the dedom to copy. Right now we haven't many demon that we are happy to copy :(

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  • Pezman's Avatar
    Staff Writer 2235 2220 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    This was my thought exactly! It's weird having class-specific abilities available to a different class. Hunter can Choose One, Mage can combo, and Druid can Overload. What's next?

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  • allthehype's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 630 739 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Decent value, consistent and very flexible! Could be used in zoo for more minions to full the board or to get another big guy for the late game.

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  • Erodos's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 945 1019 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Seems too slow, unless we get some more demons that scale insanely with it like Doubling Imp. Great reveal video though.

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  • meisterz39's Avatar
    925 1200 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    Great name, great effect. I like Felosophy a lot

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  • Vandaren's Avatar
    620 636 Posts Joined 06/05/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    It can be for aggro and value deck, right. Well this is one to look out for, i'm certain.

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4741 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 8 months ago

    perhaps this might be the thing that makes Big demon Warlock playable. If you draw a big demon off the Dark Portal or Quest Hero power you can do some crazy things (and the Outcast isn't really relevant and just a bonus).

    It's also currently the only efficient way to duplicate Kanrethad Prime, which would be the win condition for that deck.

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • Almaniarra's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 950 1468 Posts Joined 03/21/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From Brandon

    Whoops should have probably taken a better look. Thanks telling me! Now i'm wondering why i thought it was a demon in the first place... lol

    because it is the ugliest thing in the world ?

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  • Brandon's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1350 2486 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Probably yeh, lol.

    RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.

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  • BoltBase's Avatar
    E.V.I.L. Dragon 180 12 Posts Joined 10/11/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Good card, wrong meta. When more big demons are printed in the future this will almost certainly be in those lists as an extra copy of what is needed.

    Good in zoo, will have to see if it's good enough though. My initial reaction is it will be run but will be one of the first cards to be cut as new cards are released in later expansions.

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  • ElSabidon's Avatar
    Salty Dog 1030 685 Posts Joined 06/07/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    One mana with a reasonable tutor effect is pretty good. The outcast is just a small bonus but it can be good as well.

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  • linkinboy0's Avatar
    Headmaster 1235 503 Posts Joined 07/07/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Doubling some minions is gonna be really useful

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  • Lemushki's Avatar
    Squirtle 1110 1025 Posts Joined 03/22/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    One of the best cards in the set

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  • Sparkinarius's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 715 471 Posts Joined 07/18/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    A cheap way to copy Spirit Jailer and Void Drinker in Warlock for your Soul Fragment synergies. Good to play without the outcast and playing it with the outcast is a nice added bonus, though I think this doesn't make sense in aggro decks as they'd rather run a card with better standalone tempo instead. This makes more sense in a slower Warlock with the mentioned demons than in DH to me as I think DH cares more about the tempo as a win condition as Big Demons in DH isn't a consistent win condition and the archetype isn't getting enough support to help it.

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  • Valord's Avatar
    465 281 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Decent, might make it in some Zoo lists.

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  • MatwanBR's Avatar
    195 34 Posts Joined 07/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Looks amazing,probably will see play

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  • Fisguinho's Avatar
    The Raven 1190 411 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    cheap and can be made use in any kind of warlock/dk deck with demons in it

    All hail the banshee queen.

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  • Janusi's Avatar
    Face Collector 595 225 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Hadn't considered the Soul Fragment card interaction. This might have a use, and DH certainly has some very good demons they'd like more copies of that are also bigger.

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  • ChocolateChipCooke's Avatar
    Unicorn Reveler 1160 337 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    This cards seems like it will be really nifty and cute when it works or when it is randomly added/discovered. It probably won't make it into any lists on its own, but maybe an aggro-demon list will make this playable, especially since Frenzied Felwing has ridiculously strong synergy with this card (even without the outcast effect).

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  • Safiron's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 620 156 Posts Joined 07/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    This card has some potential.

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  • SilverWolf's Avatar
    Tauren Chieftain Addict 990 1085 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    I guess he's a nihilist. And he seems like Nietzsche. Good flavor on this card

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  • SavageDrago's Avatar
    300 150 Posts Joined 05/07/2020
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Zoo is always a thing, so will this.

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  • Samzy's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 370 191 Posts Joined 05/31/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Pretty spicy card for both classes, I reckon this will see some play.

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  • OldenGolden's Avatar
    Snow-Covered 690 131 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Outcast is a mechanic that drives me crazy - whenever I play Demon Hunter, I spend too much energy trying to get that outcast bonus, and the RNG Draw gods just love to mess with me. I can just see my mulligan now. . . card one, Archwitch Willow, card two, Felosophy. That said, getting another Spirit Jailer to score more Soul Fragments seems to be the key use for this card, though later on you can double a big ugly Demon Hunter card or Kanrethad Prime for maximum entertainment value. It'll be a fun play around card that may end up being reliably strong.

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  • Caro's Avatar
    Dragon 2215 2485 Posts Joined 03/12/2020
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    I have a feeling this is an auto include card in the new soul fragment deck due to Spirit Jailer. Keen to see it in action.

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  • Alfi's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 1790 1375 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Love the pun

    -=alfi=-

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  • FaytFFX's Avatar
    405 191 Posts Joined 12/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    DH now gets to copy as well. O.o What can't this class be allowed to do?

    Thanks to denial, I'm immortal.

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  • slychd's Avatar
    Sparklepony 1175 484 Posts Joined 05/30/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Maybe because it is hideous?

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  • Thonson's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 1740 1714 Posts Joined 03/24/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Great for Demon-based decks.  Especially if you are running a lot of mid-sized to large demons in a control deck; more resources and more stats!

    Quick!  Someone give me something clever to write here.

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  • Draketh's Avatar
    Darkmaster 1565 1395 Posts Joined 04/02/2019
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    Very strong card, specially if you can make use of the Outcast effect. Great synergy with Battlefiend!

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  • ShadowsOfSense's Avatar
    1500 1111 Posts Joined 10/23/2018
    Posted 3 years, 7 months ago

    I want to use this on Big Demons, but I think it might generally be better on smaller Demons that you can spam out. Zoo card, most likely.

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