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Kobolds & Catacombs Final Card Reveal Discussion 04/12/2017

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PLEASE DO NOT SUBMIT DISTINCT TOPICS PERTAINING TO THEORYCRAFTING OR RECEPTION OF THE SET AS A WHOLE. We will be holding off on theorycrafting posts until the day after the set is fully revealed.

The ONLY top level comments allowed will be the spoiler formatted description of a card revealed today. Any other top level comment will be removed. All discussion relating to these cards shall take place as a response to each top level comment.

Please discuss the revealed cards and their potential implications in competitive play.

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In case you missed anything and want to catch up, here's yesterday's card reveal discussion thread

Today's New Cards

Rhok'delar - Discussion

Class: Hunter

Card type: Weapon

Rarity: Legendary

Mana cost: 7

Card text: Battlecry: If your deck has no minions, fill your hand with Hunter spells.

Attack: 4

Dura: 2

Source: K&C Final Card Reveal Stream

Dark Pact - Discussion

Class: Warlock

Card type: Spell

Rarity: Common

Mana cost: 1

Card text: Destroy a friendly minion. Restore 8 Health to your hero.

Source: K&C Final Card Reveal Stream

Flanking Strike - Discussion

Class: Hunter

Card type: Spell

Rarity: Common

Mana cost: 4

Card text: Deal 3 damage to a minion. Summon a 3/3 Wolf.

Source: K&C Final Card Reveal Stream

Sleepy Dragon - Discussion

Class: Neutral

Card type: Minion

Rarity: Common

Mana cost: 9

Card text: Taunt

Attack: 4

HP: 12

Other notes: Dragon

Source: K&C Final Card Reveal Stream

Cave Hydra - Discussion

Class: Hunter

Card type: Minion

Rarity: Common

Mana cost: 3

Card text: Also damages the minions next to whomever this attacks.

Attack: 2

HP: 4

Other notes: Beast

Source: K&C Final Card Reveal Stream

Kobold Barbarian - Discussion

Class: Warrior

Card type: Minion

Rarity: ~~Rare~~

Mana cost: 3

Card text: At the start of your turn, attack a random enemy.

Attack: 4

HP: 4

Other notes:

The random attack consumes the minion's one attack for the turn.

This is our fourth Warrior Rare; will update once the actual rarity is confirmed.

Source: K&C Final Card Reveal Stream

Astral Tiger - Discussion

Class: Druid

Card type: Minion

Rarity: Epic

Mana cost: 4

Card text: Deathrattle: Shuffle a copy of this minion into your deck.

Attack: 3

HP: 5

Source: K&C Final Card Reveal Stream

Master Oakheart - Discussion

Class: Neutral

Card type: Minion

Rarity: Legendary

Mana cost: 9

Card text: Battlecry: Recruit a 1, 2, and 3-Attack minion.

Attack: 5

HP: 5

Source: K&C Final Card Reveal Stream

Cavern Shinyfinder - Discussion

Class: Rogue

Card type: Minion

Rarity: ~~Common~~

Mana cost: 2

Card text: Battlecry: Draw a weapon from your deck.

Attack: 3

HP: 1

Other notes:

This is our fourth Rogue Common; will update once the actual rarity is confirmed.

Source: K&C Final Card Reveal Stream

Shimmering Courser - Discussion

Class: Neutral

Card type: Minion

Rarity: Epic

Mana cost: 4

Card text: Only you can target this with spells and Hero Powers.

Attack: 3

HP: 3

Other notes: Beast

Source: K&C Final Card Reveal Stream

The Darkness - Discussion

Class: Neutral

Card type: Minion

Rarity: Legendary

Mana cost: 4

Card text: Starts dormant. Battlecry: Shuffle 3 Candles into the enemy deck. When drawn, this awakens.

Attack: 20

HP: 20

Other notes:

The Darkness will awaken once all three Candles have been drawn. The card shows partial progress as the Candles are drawn.

Dormant minions cannot be interacted with until they awaken. They can't be targeted by spells or abilities, and they can't be attacked by minions.

Source: K&C Final Card Reveal Stream

Potion of Heroism - Discussion

Class: Paladin

Card type: Spell

Rarity: Common

Mana cost: 2

Card text: Give a minion Divine Shield. Draw a card.

Source: K&C Final Card Reveal Stream

Psionic Probe - Discussion

Class: Priest

Card type: Spell

Rarity: Common

Mana cost: 1

Card text: Copy a spell in your opponent's deck and add it to your hand.

Source: K&C Final Card Reveal Stream

New Set Information

New Mechanic - Recruit: Cards with the Recruit keyword immediately summon minions from your deck and put them into play. Some cards recruit minions that match certain conditions; others recruit randomly chosen minions.

New Game Mode - Dungeon Run: Completely free single-player game mode that simulates the experience of dungeon crawling. When your Dungeon Run starts, you’ll choose a Hero and receive a starting deck consisting of 10 cards. You’ll use it to overcome eight encounters of increasing difficulty (chosen randomly from a huge pool of 48 possible encounters!) to clear the run. Each time you defeat a Dungeon Run encounter, you’ll be given an opportunity to “level up” your Dungeon Run deck with themed sets of three cards appropriate to your class. Occasionally, you’ll also be able to pick from a selection of three incredibly powerful Treasure cards —non-collectible cards and abilities made just for this mode that are too blatantly overpowered to see normal play. When you lose, your Dungeon Run is finished, you're deck is thrown out and you restart all the way from the beginning. Complete a full Dungeon Run with each of the nine Classes to obtain the Candle King card back.

9 New Legendary Weapons; One for each class (even classes that have never had a weapon before!). EVERYONE is getting one random Legendary weapon for FREE as part of the set release.

New Spellstones; One for each class. Every Spellstone card has a specific trigger condition; each time you fulfill that condition while a Spellstone is in your hand, the Spellstone becomes more powerful. Spellstones can be upgraded twice for a total of 3 different variations. For an example and more details on the exact mechanics, check out Mike's comment here!

Format for top level comments:

**[CARD_NAME](link_to_spoiler)**

**Class:**

**Card type:** Minion Spell Weapon

**Rarity:** Common Rare Epic Legendary

**Mana cost:**

**Card text:**

**Attack:**

**HP/Dura:**

**Other notes:**

**Source:**

Mike Donais

Posted 6 years, 5 months ago (Source)

Cant get 2 of the same dude from To My Side

Right you cannot get 2 huffers etc.
Mike Donais

Posted 6 years, 5 months ago (Source)

Wait, do recruited minions trigger their battlecries? That's a game changer.

no
Mike Donais

Posted 6 years, 5 months ago (Source)

Crushing Hand

Class: Shaman

Card type: Spell

Rarity: Common

Mana cost: 2

Card text: Deal 8 damage to a minion. Overload: (3)

Source: K&C Facebook Card Album

The golden animation for this is truly nuts.
Mike Donais

Posted 6 years, 5 months ago (Source)

Nice to see them adding a 1/1 for Shaman to evolve into once Moroes, Blubber Baron, and Sergeant Sally rotate out.

It is good with evolve though :)
Mike Donais

Posted 6 years, 5 months ago (Source)

Control Shaman had been lowkey for a long time before the Hex nerf, but I think this will help with that archetype. Overloading is something you have incentive to do as well, thanks to the new Shaman Spellstone. It's time to see whether cheating out a Snowfury Giant, and then casting the spellstone on it to get 4 8/8's on turn 7 or 8 will be good enough to see Control Shaman as viable.

The Snowfury Giant into Spellstone deck was fun to playtest.
Mike Donais

Posted 6 years, 5 months ago (Source)

Plated Beetle

Class: Neutral

Card type: Minion

Rarity: Common

Mana cost: 2

Card text: Deathrattle: Gain 3 Armor.

Attack: 2

HP: 3

Other notes: Beast

Source: K&C Facebook Card Album

We were trying to make a reasonable 2 cost minion that doesn't go in aggro decks with this.
Mike Donais

Posted 6 years, 5 months ago (Source)

Would the new rouge weapon keep this buff?

yes, I think so. It doesn't really need a mana cost reduction though honestly. It is 1 mana to start.
Mike Donais

Posted 6 years, 5 months ago (Source)

Is the 2/3 rat 3 mana as well?

yes
Mike Donais

Posted 6 years, 5 months ago (Source)

Here's a link to a timestamp in the stream where Shimmering Courser does not have a beast tag:

https://youtu.be/yYBhUb9ub0A?t=4640

However, earlier in the stream (as pictured here) it did have a beast tag

Clarification, /u/mdonais ?

It is a beast, they were playing on the most recent build. The pictures for reveals were taken some time ago so they didn't have the tag yet.
Mike Donais

Posted 6 years, 5 months ago (Source)

Is there somewhere we can see it now or are we doomed to have to be patient for three days?

I don't know where you can see it. Maybe it will be datamined in the next day or two.
Mike Donais

Posted 6 years, 5 months ago (Source)

Is this a pun?

The golden animation is awesome though

Thanks for noticing :)

<blockquote class="quoted">
    <div class="md"><p>Cant get 2 of the same dude from To My Side</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>Right you cannot get 2 huffers etc.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqru511">Mike Donais</a>)
<hr/>

<blockquote class="quoted">
    <div class="md"><p>Wait, do recruited minions trigger their battlecries? That's a game changer.</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>no</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqruzu5">Mike Donais</a>)
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<blockquote class="quoted">
    <div class="md"><p><strong><a href="https://i.imgur.com/u0eV4JV.jpg">Crushing Hand</a></strong></p>

<p><strong>Class:</strong> Shaman</p>

<p><strong>Card type:</strong> Spell</p>

<p><strong>Rarity:</strong> Common</p>

<p><strong>Card text:</strong> Deal 8 damage to a minion. <strong>Overload:</strong> (3)</p>

<p><strong>Source:</strong> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pg/Hearthstone/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1658008307575264">K&C Facebook Card Album</a></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>The golden animation for this is truly nuts.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqrx1kl">Mike Donais</a>)
<hr/>

<blockquote class="quoted">
    <div class="md"><p>Nice to see them adding a 1/1 for Shaman to evolve into once Moroes, Blubber Baron, and Sergeant Sally rotate out.</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>It is good with evolve though :)</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqrxs7v">Mike Donais</a>)
<hr/>

<blockquote class="quoted">
    <div class="md"><p>Control Shaman had been lowkey for a long time before the Hex nerf, but I think this will help with that archetype. Overloading is something you have incentive to do as well, thanks to the new Shaman Spellstone. It's time to see whether cheating out a Snowfury Giant, and then casting the spellstone on it to get 4 8/8's on turn 7 or 8 will be good enough to see Control Shaman as viable.</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>The Snowfury Giant into Spellstone deck was fun to playtest.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqrxmr1">Mike Donais</a>)
<hr/>

<blockquote class="quoted">
    <div class="md"><p><strong><a href="https://i.imgur.com/anjVlUV.jpg">Plated Beetle</a></strong></p>

<p><strong>Class:</strong> Neutral</p>

<p><strong>Card type:</strong> Minion</p>

<p><strong>Rarity:</strong> Common</p>

<p><strong>Card text: Deathrattle:</strong> Gain 3 Armor. </p>

<p><strong>Attack:</strong> 2</p>

<p><strong>Other notes:</strong> Beast</p>

<p><strong>Source:</strong> <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pg/Hearthstone/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1658008307575264">K&C Facebook Card Album</a></p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>We were trying to make a reasonable 2 cost minion that doesn't go in aggro decks with this.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqry2u2">Mike Donais</a>)
<hr/>

<blockquote class="quoted">
    <div class="md"><p>Would the new rouge weapon keep this buff?</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>yes, I think so. It doesn't really need a mana cost reduction though honestly. It is 1 mana to start.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqrymzh">Mike Donais</a>)
<hr/>

<blockquote class="quoted">
    <div class="md"><p>Is the 2/3 rat 3 mana as well?</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>yes</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqs0gy2">Mike Donais</a>)
<hr/>

<blockquote class="quoted">
    <div class="md"><p>Here's a link to a timestamp in the stream where Shimmering Courser does not have a beast tag:</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/yYBhUb9ub0A?t=4640">https://youtu.be/yYBhUb9ub0A?t=4640</a></p>

<p>However, earlier in the stream (<a href="https://i.imgur.com/t7ON5vY.png">as pictured here</a>) it did have a beast tag</p>

<p>Clarification, <a href="/u/mdonais">/u/mdonais</a> ?</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>It is a beast, they were playing on the most recent build. The pictures for reveals were taken some time ago so they didn't have the tag yet.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqs0iua">Mike Donais</a>)
<hr/>

<blockquote class="quoted">
    <div class="md"><p>Is there somewhere we can see it now or are we doomed to have to be patient for three days?</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>I don't know where you can see it. Maybe it will be datamined in the next day or two.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqsa767">Mike Donais</a>)
<hr/>

<p>The golden animation is awesome though</p>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div class="md"><p>Thanks for noticing :)</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqw5pc4">Mike Donais</a>)
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<p><div class="md"><p>Right you cannot get 2 huffers etc.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqru511">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>no</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqruzu5">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>The golden animation for this is truly nuts.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqrx1kl">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>It is good with evolve though :)</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqrxs7v">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>The Snowfury Giant into Spellstone deck was fun to playtest.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqrxmr1">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>We were trying to make a reasonable 2 cost minion that doesn't go in aggro decks with this.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqry2u2">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>yes, I think so. It doesn't really need a mana cost reduction though honestly. It is 1 mana to start.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqrymzh">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>yes</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqs0gy2">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>It is a beast, they were playing on the most recent build. The pictures for reveals were taken some time ago so they didn't have the tag yet.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqs0iua">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>I don't know where you can see it. Maybe it will be datamined in the next day or two.</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqsa767">Source</a>)</p>

<p><div class="md"><p>Thanks for noticing :)</p>
</div> (<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/7hj95t/kobolds_catacombs_final_card_reveal_discussion/dqw5pc4">Source</a>)</p>
    
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Kobolds & Catacombs Final Card Reveal Discussion 04/12/2017

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PLEASE DO NOT SUBMIT DISTINCT TOPICS PERTAINING TO THEORYCRAFTING OR RECEPTION OF THE SET AS A WHOLE. We will be holding off on theorycrafting posts until the day after the set is fully revealed.

Today's New Cards

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