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The Sliver precon isn't bad, but it isn't as juiced as I expected. The manabase is disappointing, only one five-color Sliver reprinted, etc. Discounting new cards you are getting a $30 Sliver Hivelord and a bunch of $5 or less reprints. Seems meh for $140. https://t.co/PBStFXmb7L

The Sliver precon isn't bad, but it isn't as juiced as I expected. The manabase is disappointing, only one five-color Sliver reprinted, etc. Discounting new cards you are getting a $30 Sliver Hivelord and a bunch of $5 or less reprints. Seems meh for $140. https://t.co/PBStFXmb7L

  • SaffronOlive
    Posted 9 months, 4 weeks ago (Source)
    The Sliver precon isn't bad, but it isn't as juiced as I expected. The manabase is disappointing, only one five-color Sliver reprinted, etc. Discounting new cards you are getting a $30 Sliver Hivelord and a bunch of $5 or less reprints. Seems meh for $140. https://t.co/PBStFXmb7L

    • bmkibler
      Posted 9 months, 4 weeks ago (Source)
      @SaffronOlive I agree that I wouldn't pay $140 for this, but that price is based on a bunch of people pre-ordering sight unseen and driving it up from the original price point of about $80. I'd love to see better mana in this (especially Sliver Hive) but I think expectations are crazy high.

      • bmkibler
        Posted 9 months, 4 weeks ago (Source)
        @SaffronOlive Reprint sets are in this weird spot that WotC has an incentive to balance increasing supply of high-demand cards without cratering their value, and that especially hurts precons like this one because it's impossible to make a good five color mana base without a ton of rare lands.

        • bmkibler
          Posted 9 months, 4 weeks ago (Source)
          @SaffronOlive I'd personally love to see stuff like the battlebond lands printed in every precon, but even then, are you going to have literally every one of them in this deck and just one in a two color deck while selling them for the same price?

          • bmkibler
            Posted 9 months, 4 weeks ago (Source)
            @SaffronOlive It's got to be super sad for a new player to learn that the biggest investment they need to make to improve their deck - and not just a 5c deck like slivers, but any deck! - is to buy boring cards like lands. But Magic has leaned on rare lands for so long that it's hard to fix.

            • scalias_boner
              Posted 9 months, 4 weeks ago (Source)
              @bmkibler @SaffronOlive I suppose one option would be to mix up the expensive lands that get reprinted in these precons so that after buying a few, you have some shocks, some bond lands, and some triomes. For me, I think a better land base is more important than powerful needed non land reprints inthese

              • bmkibler
                Posted 9 months, 4 weeks ago (Source)
                @scalias_boner @SaffronOlive The issue is that to a new player especially, a good mana base isn't exciting. There's nothing flashy about untapped dual lands, while big spells or creatures are awesome! It makes sense to skimp on the mana from that perspective, assuming the priorities/goals.

                • Chadd Nervigg
                  Posted 9 months, 4 weeks ago (Source)
                  @bmkibler @scalias_boner @SaffronOlive Include 2 rare lands in every masters booster? If their value is $1, it'd just be fine for there to be 5x bonds in the 5c deck and 1x in the two-color deck.
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