The Best Deals Anywhere - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

  • ShadowsOfSense's Avatar Senior Moderator 1500 1110 Posts Joined 10/23/2018
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago


    Competition Theme: The Best Deals Anywhere

    We're looking for some fantastic deals this week, so make sure your card has some resale value!

    • You must create a card with Tradeable, or that synergises with the Tradeable mechanic
      • We're looking for direct synergies like Auctioneer Jaxon, not something more tangential

    This week, anchorm4n wants us to trade in Blizzard's designs for our own for the new expansion - what a deal!

    As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.


    Competition Phases

    Here are the phases of this card design competition

    • Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Jul 26 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Jul 31 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Jul 31 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Aug 1 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Aug 1 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Aug 2 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar 1690 1881 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    I hope you like tinkering with new keywords as much as I do. We'll probably see what Blizzard has in store for us when it comes to Tradeable within the next 24 hours, so maybe someone will even predict an actual card :D

    Here's what I've got in mind:

    As it is, the card always deals as much damage as you have paid Mana for it (trades included). That makes it very versatile but also not overly strong. I wonder if I should make the buff it gets from trading a bit bigger. What do you think?

    (I'll capitalize and embolden "Traded" in my next version, this card was created before Auctioneer Jaxon was revealed.) 

    I notice I am confused. Something I believe isn't true. How do I know what I think I know?
    Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres, hpmor.com

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  • linkblade91's Avatar Global Moderator 1610 2073 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    I started at "Tradeable Hero card" and worked from there.

    Unless you Trade it more than 5 times, you'll always pay 5 total mana for the Hero (the Cost of the card + the Cost of Trading). I wanted it to be more than just an Armor-bomb so I included a way to spend the Armor in the Hero Power.

    If you have the time, you should totally check out our weekly Hearthstone card design competitions! :D

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  • Wailor's Avatar Design Champion 555 591 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    First idea, purely by flavor.

    I've been looking for a very specific artwork which features a dwarf with a weird parrot-like animal caged, but I coudn't find it. I think Cheese used that art a long while ago back in Hearthpwn.

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  • Hordaki's Avatar Dragon Scholar 650 264 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    First idea, more flavorful than anything but could lead to good combos. I might come up with something else after the rest of Stormwind is revealed and I know what I'm working with.

          -Hordaki (rhymes with Mordecai)

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  • Arkasaur's Avatar Design Champion 250 47 Posts Joined 09/12/2020
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    I've got a fairly simple idea for this one but hits a very nice flavor-spot:

    Just need to get the balance right to make it unique enough from all the other bounce spells rogue has, and without overshadowing Sap or Shadowstep to much. Thoughts on these two iterations?

    Aside from the 'Rogue/Trading' joke of "Undercut", this should be reminiscent of having someone undercut your auctions and having to put them back up for a cheaper price.

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    @anchorm4n - An interesting idea that i quite like. it takes some work to make it an effective option for damage that the opponent can play around by pressuring you to use it as removal. Very hard to judge balance without playtesting but it's possible it should start at 0 damage ie. "Deal 1 damage for each time you've traded this".

    @linkblade91 - A tradeable hero is a neat idea. The amount of armor gain might be an issue in some classes (rogue and mage spring to mind since they can draw through their deck fairly easily), otherwise it strikes me as balanced.

    @Wailor - Nice, simple, flavourful. not much more to say about that. You're good to go with this one.

    @Hordaki - A nice callback that isnt too on the nose in my opinion. My only concern is about what would happen with a certain density of tradeable cards allowing you to play an infinite amount of cards per turn. It's probably fine, but worth considering.

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  • R's Avatar Design Champion 990 721 Posts Joined 04/23/2020
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    Trying hard to make not Rogue card and fail every time :) Hordaki was ahead of me with Galliwyx, so I needed to find another idea. And I come with these small tricky guys.

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    anchorm4n
    Maybe better start with 0 damage and "deal 2 more for each time…". Or maybe I'm not right, IDK

    linkblade91
    This card is literaly screams "warrior". But we already have "mech warrior hero card". Nice card, but I'm not sure about neutral class.

    Wailor
    Clear and flavorfull. Nothing much to say.

    Hordaki
    Flavour is above beyond. I had the same idea but you was ahead me. :)

    Arkasaur
    As you pointed this yourself, it's too similar to Sap/Shadowstep. Better to find another idea or hardly change it's concept.

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  • Neoguli's Avatar Duskrider 865 548 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    A few ideas to push the new keyword.

    "Truth is in the shadows, waiting to be revealed by the light. But light only disperses the shadow." - Me

    "If other people shared traits of those considered naive, the world would've become a better place." - Also me

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  • R's Avatar Design Champion 990 721 Posts Joined 04/23/2020
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    Neoguli

    Magical Seed. 1 mana summon 2/2 Treant is already exist. But you also added new Trade mechanic. Now it can swap with a random card from your deck by paying 1 mana and also summon two 2/2 treants? Insane!

    Bloodshard Satyr. "Paying a soul" flavour is interesting, but IMO this card not clearly represents this flavour.

    Tipsi Wobblerune is interesting idea, but it's limitating Tradeable cards desing. What if they print a big tradeable rush minion? Just throw them into your deck, play Tipsi and swap these guys with each other to clear the board.

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  • Wailor's Avatar Design Champion 555 591 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    I managed to find the artwork. Turns out the animal wasn't a parrot, but a chameleon.

    However, I'm not sure which art is better. The new one is better for the flavor, but the style isn't as appropriate for Hearthstone.

    Anyway, feedback:

    anchorm4n
    The idea is nice, but I don't like the name, since it's not clear what it represents. Something like "Second-hand whatever" would be better, and would still fit the flavor of selling it many times.

    linkblade91
    It's a decent idea, but it doesn't have a very Tradeable flavor (not a big deal, since stuff like Provoke exists). Besides that, I would make it a Warrior card, especially because the Hero Power has Armor synergy.

    Hordaki
    It's flavorful, but it's also mechanically elegant in the sense that it makes your Trades free. Main issue is that his effect doesn't seem very good on such an expensive body. I think you should reduce its cost, even if that means it won't have the same stats as the original Trade Prince Gallywix.

    Arkasaur
    Pretty interesting card. I think the version that reduces by 1 is more balanced, but I'm not very good at balance, so…

    Flavor is hard to get if it's not expained, however (at least for a non-native speaker like myself)

    R
    Contract Assassin is very simple, but I like it a lot. Flavor is very Rogue, for sure, but I tink that, mechanically, it fits more as a Neutral card.

    Neoguli
    Magical Seed is definetly your coolest card. Its flavor is reminiscent of the tale Jack and the Beanstalk, which I don't know if is intentional, but it works very well. Main issue, it's quite similar to R's Contract Assassin, but since the main selling point of both cards is flavor and they're different in that aspect, I think it's not too big of a deal.

    Bloodshard Satyr has the issue of not fitting the expansion very much neither mechanically nor flavor-wise, while Tipsi Woblerune's gimmick is a bit strange and dangerous.

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  • Neoguli's Avatar Duskrider 865 548 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    @Wailor - nothing wrong with the second art, as the game still has cards with art from WoW TCG. And the "Jack and the Beanstalk" reference was purely a coincidence, I forgot that tale even existed. :>

    @R - No, you do not summon two 2/2 Treants when trading this card. Rather, you only summon one until you trade this card, and after that, you summon two.

    "Truth is in the shadows, waiting to be revealed by the light. But light only disperses the shadow." - Me

    "If other people shared traits of those considered naive, the world would've become a better place." - Also me

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar Prince Charming 1100 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    Here's my first Idea:

    Not sure about the Balance right now ... maybe it should be 6 Mana? Or Attack/Health weaker?

     

     

    Challenge me ... when you're ready to duel a god!

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  • cydonianknight's Avatar 515 88 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    Here's my card, long time since I last participated in one of these so hopefully the card is alright. 

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    anchorm4n

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    I like this card a lot, personally feels like the recently revealed [Hearthstone Card (Garotte) Not Found] a little bit, but I won't hold
    that against the card considering there's enough tangible differences to make it feel new. Solid stuff.

    linkblade91

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    Love this idea a lot, particularly when you add the Hero Power to the mix. One question, if you can spend 1 armor, does the HP always deal 4 or do you have a Choose One style interface?

    Wailor

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    Simple idea, great flavour, prefer the first art over the second but if it's possible, maybe consider centralising the character more in the frame, as currently the framing feels a bit off.

    Hordaki

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    Simple card, quite like it. I would prefer the wording of 'someone' to be changed to 'a player' or 'either player'.

    Arkasaur

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    Feels somewhere between decent and unecessary, I understand this has a bit more flexibility than Shadowstep as it can be used as temporary removal, I think you want to go with the 'costs 2 less' version to make it seem more reasonable.

    R

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    I prefer Huckster over Contract Assassin, as there is basically no situation where you would Trade the Assassin, making the keyword feel kind of irrelevant on the card. Huckster at least has situations where you don't want it yet, i.e. when you don't have shuffled cards. Personally I would also try to have a more creative name than just Huckster as we already Undercity Huckster, something like Bloodsail Huckster would go a long way for me at least.

    Neoguli

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    Absolutely go for Magical Seed, such a sweet idea, the art fits, simple. Chef's kiss.

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar Prince Charming 1100 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago
    Quote From cydonianknight

    Here's my card, long time since I last participated in one of these so hopefully the card is alright. 

    Not sure about it (english is not my first language) but shouldn't it be "Third-Eyed Agnes"? or even Three-Eyed ?

     

     

    Challenge me ... when you're ready to duel a god!

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  • Longshadow's Avatar 115 7 Posts Joined 03/31/2021
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    Quote From Author
    Not sure about it (english is not my first language) but shouldn't it be "Third-Eyed Agnes"? or even Three-Eyed ?

    The "third-eye" usually references the ability to have supernatural sight, not just a literal third eye ball. In arcanum and fiction this eye can be a literal eye on the forehead, or just an ability someone has which allows them to see or feel things others can not.

    Third-Eye on Wikipedia

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  • Neoguli's Avatar Duskrider 865 548 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    K, will be going with this card. Just asking about this version of formatting the text to avoid people being confused because of them thinking you can summon two 2/2 Treants at turn 1.

    "Truth is in the shadows, waiting to be revealed by the light. But light only disperses the shadow." - Me

    "If other people shared traits of those considered naive, the world would've become a better place." - Also me

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  • Cheese's Avatar 270 160 Posts Joined 05/30/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago
    Quote From Wailor

    I've been looking for a very specific artwork which features a dwarf with a weird parrot-like animal caged, but I coudn't find it. I think Cheese used that art a long while ago back in Hearthpwn.

    https://c4.wallpaperflare.com/wallpaper/320/996/884/dwarf-hd-wallpaper-preview.jpg

    this?

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  • Lundy's Avatar Little Devil Teemo 1555 700 Posts Joined 06/21/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

     

    Cloth Merchant: The idea is that you're trading in materials and a gold, and he's giving you cloth armor in return. I initially wanted to do a full set of these for leather/mail/plate with increasing stats and more armor gain. Balance-wise, 3 armor might be too much and could be lowered to 2 or even 1 if need be. 1 would be a better fit most likely with 2/3/4 armor for leather/mail/plate, respectively.

    Shadoweave Trainer: Deal 2 damage to a random enemy minion doesn't really feel like a Priest mechanic, but was the best fit for this card. (Note: Should be "... deal 2 damage to an enemy minion" in the card text). Name is open to be changed, considering Trainer>Trader to better fit the mechanic.

    Frostweave Trainer: We saw Frostweave make an appearance in the Barrens Miniset with Frostweave Dungeoneer. This card makes use of Tradeable cards to Freeze your opponents minions. (Note: Should be "... Freeze an enemy minion" in the card text). Name is open to be changed, considering Trainer>Trader to better fit the mechanic.

     

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  • Wailor's Avatar Design Champion 555 591 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago
    Quote From Cheese
    Quote From Wailor

    I've been looking for a very specific artwork which features a dwarf with a weird parrot-like animal caged, but I coudn't find it. I think Cheese used that art a long while ago back in Hearthpwn.

    https://c4.wallpaperflare.com/wallpaper/320/996/884/dwarf-hd-wallpaper-preview.jpg

    this?

    Yes, that one. Thanks :)

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  • Cheese's Avatar 270 160 Posts Joined 05/30/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    Oh you already found it. I didn’t see it because I was at work. Anyway are cards that generate tradeable cards allowed?

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