Rune Scape - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

  • allthehype's Avatar Crossroads Historian 535 674 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    I got an idea. Is this ok? Not sure about the Nature tag.

    EDIT: I plan on giving the Murlocs Rush and remove the nature tag. Comparable spells (Swarm of Locusts and Murloc-related Shaman spells) typically don't have a type.

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar The Cake Is A Lie 1590 1684 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    allthehype
    I think a major problem could be that the Murlocs lock your own board when they are summoned. That way you give your opponent basically two turns to either kill you or prepare to clear the (hopefully buffed by then) Murlocs. I do like how the "Call" gives a flavorful explanation to the "next turn" trigger though.

    Neoguli
    It's an interesting idea, but I don't feel much flavor here. Maybe it would work out if you added an explanation to the card… How are the Code and the "next turn" effect coming together?

    Wailor
    Better, I like it!

    AnAngryBadger
    I really like The Coming Storm, cool idea. Maybe you can find some better art for it though?

    Nirast
    I think you'd need to add "copy" like in Azalina's text or one might think you're stealing the opponent's hand :D I like the flavor between the name and the effect, but I don't see why it should trigger next turn. The artwork looks a bit strange to me.

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  • Neoguli's Avatar Duskrider 730 419 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    @anchorm4n - I did not create Copy Homework. Don't insert my name to stuff I do not own. Xd

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  • Nirast's Avatar Content Squad Snow-Covered 705 537 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    anchorm4n Uhm, I'm the one who made Copy Homework.

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar The Cake Is A Lie 1590 1684 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    Sorry, I've corrected that. 

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  • BasilAnguis's Avatar Dragon Scholar 665 261 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    First idea. It discourages the opponent from attacking you, else you get an army of taunts.

    I'll boop you 

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  • ChickyChick's Avatar Fan Creator 390 123 Posts Joined 06/18/2019
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    @BasilAnguis

    The cost of this shouldn't probably be higher than 3, because for me it's strictly worse Frost Nova, as long as there are no ways you could force enemies to attack. You're giving your opponent choice, so if he decides to attack, that means it's worse than freezing his minion, he wouldn't attack it he wouldn't profit from it, as long as we don't take misplays/bad plays into consideration.

    Ok

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar Content Squad Crossroads Historian 1760 1893 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    I've made a 4 mana version of The End Foretold. I don't really "feel" this one though since it seems to me that 3 mana is too strong but 4 mana is too weak.

    I've also got a concept for another card, with some similarities to Sigil of FlamesBADCARDNAME. I have absolutely no idea what class to give it to or how much mana it should cost.

    For additional feedback

    Neoguli
    Secret Code is… okay. It feels much more like a Rogue card than a Mage card. It also feels way too weird.

    Anchorm4n

    I'm going to disagree with what Sinti said on Discord and tell you that this card is actually not overpowered. This is mostly for one reason: The delay. 5 mana to draw 5 cards with a free Binding Heal? OP. 5 mana to do nothing right now and THEN draw 5 cards with a free Binding Heal on your next turn? Not OP. If you want to make the most of it, you'll have to spend a ton of mana doing absolutely nothing and then getting a larger benefit later. Which is sorta what makes the Sigils balanced. For comparison sake, Nourish has always seen a lot of play in Druid to draw 3 cards immediately whereas Outrider's Axe is actually not performing as strongly as predicted and draws 3 cards with a 3/3 weapon, but the drawing is delayed.

    Overall, I'm going to say that your card is actually pretty good in terms of balanced. I do agree however that there is a disconnect with using the Forbidden mechanic on a non-Forbidden card.

    Allthehype
    I share Anchorm4n's view on the fact that it will lock your board with 1/1s that you can't take advantage of immediately which will be a bad disadvantage to try to overcome. The best thing you can do is to maybe have 1 minion on board at the start of your next turn to summon 6 of the Murlocs and then run your minion to play something like Coldlight Seer to buff their Health to they might not die next turn. The 1/1s themselves are also not very threatening unless you have the methods to buff them.

    BasilAnguis
    In almost all circumstances, this is worst Frost Nova. Unlike Nova, it doesn't even prevent lethal damage either. It is flavorful, but that flavor unfortunately comes at the cost of any chance of being playable.

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  • allthehype's Avatar Crossroads Historian 535 674 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    Anchorman & Demonxz95: Thanks for the feedback, I didn't consider that and I totally agree with the issue. Would it be better just to give the Murlocs Rush? Then it would basically be a delayed Swarm of Locusts but why not?

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar The Cake Is A Lie 1590 1684 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    More feedback:

    allthehype
    Yeah, that would be better. Imagine the memes if you combo this with Magicfin!

    Demon
    I'm sorry about the cost problem with The End Foretold, but I keep up my opinion that it would be too dangerous at 3 because of the combo potential with the Spellstone. The new card looks very interesting. It reminds me a bit of Shadowflame but I think it might fit Priest pretty well. Anduin is going with sticky minions these days and strange board clears has always been a thing for the class. I wouldn't make it too expensive. Maybe 3 Mana? Thanks for your encouragement regarding my card :)

    BasilAnguis
    I agree with Demon and ChickyChick. It is a nice idea and the art is great. Maybe you can tewak it so it gets more playable.

    As Demon and Sinti suggested, I have given my Meditation card the Forbidden treatment and swapped the art for something darker accordingly. Sad to see that someone else picked up the Meditation theme in the meantime :(

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar Content Squad Crossroads Historian 1760 1893 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    Really hoping I can get feedback on this before time is up.

    Which version do you guys prefer? Or do you guys just prefer The End Foretold?

    EDIT: And I just realized that I forgot to put the spell schools on both of the cards.

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  • grumpymonk's Avatar 340 133 Posts Joined 04/02/2020
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago
    Quote From Demonxz95

    Really hoping I can get feedback on this before time is up.

    Which version do you guys prefer? Or do you guys just prefer The End Foretold?

    EDIT: And I just realized that I forgot to put the spell schools on both of the cards.

    I think I like the flavor of Living Bomb over Grasp of Darkness. I can imagine the minion exploding in a ball of flames :0

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar The Cake Is A Lie 1590 1684 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    Hmmm. Quite hard to tell actually. I'll just walk you through my thought process.

    First of all, the texts are different. I don't think it's a problem, but have you used the word "next" in the Mage card when you have left it out in the Priest one on purpose? If so, why? I personally prefer the Mage version but I guess both will work out. I'm just curious if there is something to learn here. Maybe Open the Waygate shenanigans?

    Both art pieces are really great, the Mage one is a little better. Same goes for the names.

    Both effects kinda make sense in the classes you've put them in.

    Balance looks okay in the Priest card (that was pretty much my suggestion after all), the Mage card looks very strong at 2. You might get away with this because Flamestrike got buffed and the effect triggers only a turn later and under a condition.

    So what decides this thing might be the flavor. I must admit that my brain beats my heart in this case because I see your Mage card as a sibling of Wildfire, one of my favorite cards in the game: both are at 2 Mana, epic and have gorgeous art works. Here comes the but: that art doesn't fit your effect very well. It looks like a fire spell that blows up an enemy, which is fine for the effect when it triggers, but it doesn't explain the delay. In your Priest card, there's no such explanation either, but that's okay, because it's a mind manipulation kind of thing and no explanation is better than a false one in this case if you get what I mean. So my heart is all in for the Mage card, but logic dictates to go with the Priest one. Good luck! 

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar The Cake Is A Lie 1590 1684 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    Update: this would be quite a challenge, but your effect might be very flavorful in Rogue. You could make it look like sneaking in a saboteur behind enemy lines who wreaks havoc if he isn't discovered soon enough. Problem is, Rogue is not meant to get AOE. :/

    Maybe make it weaker, like 1 or 2 damage? If you find art for this, you might end up with a super flavorful 5 stars contender! 

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  • grumpymonk's Avatar 340 133 Posts Joined 04/02/2020
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    Only a little over 2 hours left to submit!

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  • linkblade91's Avatar Global Moderator Lissandra 1445 1621 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    Good luck to the finalists :)

    I...uhh...didn't get around to providing feedback :/ Was pretty laid up after my second Covid shot.

    If you have the time, you should totally check out our weekly Hearthstone card design competitions! :D

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar The Cake Is A Lie 1590 1684 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    Good luck to the finalists!

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  • R's Avatar Design Champion 785 613 Posts Joined 04/23/2020
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    Prolonged Growth is just pre-nerfed 2-mana Wild Growth with extra steps. There is no difference, isn't it?

    Edit: I write it before the results.

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  • linkblade91's Avatar Global Moderator Lissandra 1445 1621 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    Congratulations to MathU!

    If you have the time, you should totally check out our weekly Hearthstone card design competitions! :D

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  • grumpymonk's Avatar 340 133 Posts Joined 04/02/2020
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    Congrats to MathU!

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