New Demon Hunter Spell - Final Showdown

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  • Arthas's Avatar
    Black Lotus 1215 4978 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    A new Legendary Demon Hunter Spell, Final Showdown, has been revealed!

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  • Lundy's Avatar
    Little Devil Teemo 1555 702 Posts Joined 06/21/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    The incremental quest rewards are more powerful than the end reward. By the time you reached the end of the Questline, you will have drawn 14 cards. 

    Now, the first two parts of the Questline are interesting. For only 1 mana, and drawing 4/5 cards in one turn, you get immediate cost reduction. 4-5 cards in one turn is pretty easy to do with cards like Spectral Sight, the aforementioned Skull of Gul'dan, Chaos Strike, even Consume Magic. Glide will also get immediately progress you to the next stage of the quest and that's not to be overlooked.

    Any Tradeable minion is essentially a 1-mana draw, which works really well with this quest, and also keeps your deck full for future cost reductions. There is also some really interesting synergy with Tradeable minions and Auctioneer Jaxon. Triggering Auctioneer Jaxon and discovering a card to draw with a 2 cost reduction could be sneaky.

    In all, I think this card will be played, but for the incremental rewards, not the final Demonslayer Kurtrus

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  • GameTheory345's Avatar
    Island 470 386 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    I just want to mention that I thought Thijs' reveal video was one of the funniest reveals since Toast's Hooktusk reveal video. 

    That aside, drawing 4 cards in a turn isn't too difficult for DH. Drawing 5 is quite a bit harder, and then drawing 6 is a lot harder. But if you've managed to complete the questline, you've already drawn 20 cards and you don't have many left in your deck. The only way I think this is quest will see play is if you run Glide or if you play the OTK DH deck that draws a million cards anyways.

    ???

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1810 4684 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    Its not looking good. The problem is that the conditions require a whooping 14 cards drawn, and each tier requires drawn cards per turn at 4/5/5 per tier. Which means you cant cumulatively do this, it has to be 4 cards per turn before you can progress at all.

    So what's the reward? Your cards drawn cost 2 less from now on...and how many cards you would have left? Maybe 5-7 if you're lucky.

    In other words, this quest can only truly fit into a soul deck, which will extend your drawn cards so the conditions aren't literally impossible to accomplish. Even OTK lifesteal dhunter can't accomplish drawing 5 cards per turn without having the god hand.

    This is yet again a case where the lower tier reward is literally more useful than the actual reward itself. If you accomplish any of the tiers, the drawn cards get discounted by 1, which isn't really alot, but can decide some matches. Besides which, by the time Kurtrus comes out it's likely that you've drawn all the cards you need and the only way to reload the deck to take advantage of the reward is via something like Glide. That's never a good sign.

    Of course, dhunter reveals have been sparse so there might be more ways to do this than it seems. But I'm a little underwhelmed by the reward. My guess is that its in anticipation of some outcast deck because the one card that really benefits from all that cost reduction would be Kor'vas Bloodthorn.

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  • Pezman's Avatar
    2075 1734 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    I'm really not sure about this. All those cost reductions will be very powerful, but as others have noted, you're through your whole deck by the time you get the final reward. 

    If Trading cards counts for draw, this will be easier to accomplish.

    "Be excellent to each other." -Bill and Ted

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 1980 4495 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    Honestly, the only way this sees play is if OTK Demon Hunter just really wants the discounts on the first two rewards (and I'm not sure that deck usually draws more than 3 cards per turn).

    This feels worse than Supreme Archaeology.

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • Tumbleweedovski's Avatar
    Protector of Elwynn 1470 590 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    Who cares about Demonslayer Kurtrus? The incremental rewards are good enough already to make this card viable.

    Arena > Wild > Standard

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    Well the Questline is defenitely interesting and most of the time will be played for the early rewards cause once you`ve gotten Kurtrus almost all of your Cards will be drawn. Looks good for OTK - because you want to draw fast and if you get combo pieces cheaper it is even easier to finish the opponent.

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  • DarkFrostX's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 830 1229 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    I feel that if you are going to have a deck with so much card draw you will end up with few cards that actually do something.
    I think this will only see play in combo decks since in combos you only need some specific cards to win.

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  • UVE's Avatar
    1180 826 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    Harder than Supreme Archaeology but worse reward. Nice.

     

    By The Holy Light!

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  • Tetsuo's Avatar
    Magma Rager 840 638 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    This looks pretty difficult to pull off, even with all the card draw at Demon Hunter's disposal. This will probably be played in a fast deck, and as others have said before me, the incremental rewards alone are enough to make this viable. Cost reductions are still incredibly huge in the game. 

    I'm also loving the flavor of the card. Kurtrus' final showdown with Anetheron looks really exciting! Too bad Anetheron himself is such a crap card in this expansion... 

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  • Trimutius's Avatar
    1570 2499 Posts Joined 03/16/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    Unless dh gets something like Plot Twist or something that shuffles back into deck, it is not extremely impactful, but probably still ok to discount some combo pieces

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    By the time you have finished all the steps you will have drawn more than 2/3s of your deck, making it suicide to complete. And the final reward doesn't even win you the game, it just asks you to draw even more.

    But it still may be played just to get one or two discounts from the middle rewards.

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • PopeNeia's Avatar
    Darkmaster 635 832 Posts Joined 07/06/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    So, if drawing a Soul Fragment counts as completing 2 for the quest then this seems much more playable all of a sudden. Otherwise, the deck would need way more support to function and actually win

    This ain't no place for a hero

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  • randomfan's Avatar
    Elemental 1255 744 Posts Joined 03/17/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    This will be an interesting questline to work through. Completing all three stages means you have drawn 14 cards plus whatever else gets drawn on turns that don't advance. That half your deck in total  already. Unless you are relying on heavy Glide and tradable you won't be left with much to benefit from that 2 mana reduction. As someone who  is still holding strong to year old Demon Hunter hate, I'm perfectly fine with this appearing to be less impactful.

    Unfortunately, common sense isn't as common as it should be.

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  • Hydrafrog's Avatar
    Gul'dan 1825 3154 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    That is a LOT of draw.  It isn't impossible to pull off, but dedicating a substantial number of cards in your deck solely to draw... that is going to not go well

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  • Synnr7's Avatar
    1030 605 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    Seems like you draw too much of your deck for the reward to be rewarding. Maybe I'm wrong though, the discounts are strong, especially when combined with Skull. Could have some powerful turns with real cheap stuff.

    Casual Dragon Cardgame enthusiast. 

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  • Horus's Avatar
    Wizard 2505 3073 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    I had the same train of thought, just noticing how much of your deck would already been drawn before your trigger the final rewards ... It doesn't feels so rewarding to get a discount for your last 4-5 cards (mild exaggeration here)

    Struggle with Heroic Galakrond's Awakening? I got your back : 

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  • Erodos's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 935 1017 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    Quite bad, you'll have drawn most of your deck by the time you get the final reward. Cheesing it with Soul Fragments just weakens the intermediary rewards. Might be worth it in OTK DH for the intermediary rewards but I doubt it.

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  • NegativeNemsy's Avatar
    405 206 Posts Joined 07/10/2019
    Posted 1 year, 6 months ago

    Demonslayer Kurtrus should have at least come with taunt or rush.  If you are about to die, he is unplayable making the final reward even worse the longer he stays in your hand.

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