New Neutral Minion - Ivus, the Forest Lord

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  • Arthas's Avatar
    Black Lotus 1215 4980 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    A new Legendary Neutral Minion, Ivus, the Forest Lord, has been revealed!

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  • sto650's Avatar
    Santa Braum 635 700 Posts Joined 03/30/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    So, spend 5 mana and you get a 3/3, rush, divine shield, taunt .... that seems pretty underwhelming.

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  • Geno9999's Avatar
    Pirate King 1445 910 Posts Joined 11/10/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    Seems like a Druid class card in disguise... Can't wait for it to roll Taunt 9 times!*

    *Probably doesn't work like that.

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  • nathan9124's Avatar
    170 6 Posts Joined 07/28/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    its been confirm you cant roll keywords multiple times, only the +2+2 buff can be roll more then once.

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  • Lundy's Avatar
    Little Devil Teemo 1555 702 Posts Joined 06/21/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    Seems like an auto-include in most decks. With a variable mana cost, it's good at any time in a match.

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  • Live4vrRdieTryn's Avatar
    485 880 Posts Joined 07/14/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    I wish my girlfriend was this flexible!

     

    Ah, who am I kidding... I play hearthstone afterall..

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  • NegativeNemsy's Avatar
    405 206 Posts Joined 07/10/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    Seems like a very good reactionary stall card especially for the paladin questline.  It can also be created by first day of school.  I don't know if it will be enough to improve that quest.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1810 4691 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    Its flexible and its a good stated minion most of the time. Use this to efficiently utilize your mana, or just drop it early for good tempo. If it gains at least divine shield and rush, its already by default a good minion, so why not just include this into every deck?

    A few downsides as it happens. Its basically a stats minion, doing nothing else. In ranked, most minions are required to be more than just a stats stick, and this card can't always guaranteed results.

    I can see this being in nearly all aggro tempo decks. But in midrange or anywhere else, questions should be asked what exactly is this card doing here?

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  • HuntardHuntard's Avatar
    Mailbox Dancer 875 744 Posts Joined 12/03/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    If you feel like a lucky individual this is a good card to run. Otherwise, I think this is mediocre. I think the best comparison would be Tiamat from SoU, but with added flexibility and the drawback of randomness. 

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  • Live4vrRdieTryn's Avatar
    485 880 Posts Joined 07/14/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    My face is already dead?

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  • p's Avatar
    E.V.I.L. Dragon 610 127 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    If you dont have 30 good cards this will be the best filler imo. Pretty good late game, have a play early game good synergy with raise dead vs.

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  • meisterz39's Avatar
    925 1200 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    It seems that in the mid to late game this will be consistently solid, but this might be too random to find a home.

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  • Live4vrRdieTryn's Avatar
    485 880 Posts Joined 07/14/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    Mediocre is the word. At ten mana it's likely going to be a 13/13 rushing div shid taunt which is excellent naturally.

     

    In truth, you're going to have to play it sooner many times. At 5 mana this can work out to a 3/3 divine shield rush taunt..... Which is kind of pathetic. Maybe you get lucky skip the dreaded taunt and get a 5/5 div shield rusher. That's still just good, not amazing and not guaranteed at all.

     

    Do you get the rush? Don't you...? How badly did you need it to? It's probably not that great but pick it in Arena and think of it as a very late game card.

     

     

     

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  • Caro's Avatar
    Champion of the Frozen Wastes 2100 2159 Posts Joined 03/12/2020
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    Kinda reminds me of Varian, King of Stormwind but with Varian, you can at least guarantee all the effects via deckbuilding and he doesn't see much play. Ivus is definitely more flexible though, but the keywords being random makes it inconsistent. 

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 1980 4497 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    I feel like the RNG element makes it not worth it. Ideally you play this around turn 5 or 6, but if you then whiff on an important keyword you're very sad. Similarly, if you want to play it earlier for tempo and you don'T get the stat buff one you#re sad because you spent 4-mana on a glorified Argent Squire.

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • Brandon's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1310 2008 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    Seems like a good minion for a bunch of decks, just as a filler kinda minion. The problem with Ivus, the Forest Lord is that Ivus is very... Random. You kinda never want to rely on Ivus, because he's so unpredictable. Imagine being on 5+ mana and NEEDING that rush, but your unlucky and dont get it and lose the game because of it. Reliability is really important these days, and i feel like Ivus might not be that good because of he isn't reliable. But that being said, he is very flexible so that might save him?

    The only deck in which Ivus might be a must-include is most druid decks with Wildheart Guff because he can be a giant stat bomb with rush, divine shield and taunt. But even in that deck, Ivan requires games to last for a long time. 

     

    RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar
    Prince Charming 1105 1355 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    Interesting ... and for the memes i will try to play this with the 20 Mana Druid Hero after i reached 20 Mana ;) 

    Could either be good or very bad ... right now im not sure!

    Challenge me ... when you're ready to duel a god!

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  • Tumbleweedovski's Avatar
    Protector of Elwynn 1470 590 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    Looks weird, looks memey, but if played for 5+ mana I think Ivus, the Forest Lord is actually fairly strong. It trades Zilliax's Lifesteal for additional flexibility and unfortunately some uncertainty.

    Arena: Yes, of course you want this in your deck!

    Constructed: Zilliax's Lifesteal was significant. Therefore, I don't think this will be as commonly seen as Zilliax, but I don't think it has no place in the meta either. Deck that synergize with this card would probably want to include this, such as Quest or Divine Shield Paladin.

    Arena > Wild > Standard

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  • ElSabidon's Avatar
    Salty Dog 1030 684 Posts Joined 06/07/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago
    Quote From Tumbleweedovski

    It trades Zilliax's Lifesteal for additional flexibility 

    Zilliax was the epitomy of flexibility, which Ivus, the Forest Lord is not, the same way Siamat is not. Ivus can be as flexible only if you're lucky. Or you have 7 mana leftover as Druid after playing a big chungus beforehand.

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  • Hydrafrog's Avatar
    Gul'dan 1825 3154 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 1 year, 2 months ago

    I really really like this.  Early game RNG shenanigans, mid game unpredictable help, late game scary stuff.  Combine this with Wildheart Guff and that is just icky.  Good thing there are still target removal cards

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