New Warlock Minion - Abyssal Summoner

  • Arthas's Avatar 185 459 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    A new Common Warlock Minion, Abyssal Summoner, has been revealed!

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  • AliRadicali's Avatar 400 623 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    I for one am looking forward to testing out handlock in the upcoming expansion. It's gonna be pretty sweet discounting Mountain Giants to 1 mana.

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  • MenacingBagel's Avatar Bulbasaur 155 162 Posts Joined 09/24/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    10/10 or should I say 12/12? With the legendary, this should summon a whopping 12/12 so that's 12/12 with taunt and the extra 2/2 those are great stats and with warlock's other legendary yet to be revealed I'm expecting a dragon that has nothing to do with handlock 

    Edit: Due to bad reading skills I thought this just looked at total hand size not held cards so still seems pretty good but slightly worse.

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  • ArngrimUndying's Avatar Jaina 350 326 Posts Joined 06/11/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    Obvious Handlock synergy, but I really don't get what Blizz is doing with Warlock right now since they've got like 2 cards each for 4 different synergies (Handlock, Dragonlock, Demonlock, and Quest/Shufflelock). Not to mention Lackey Zoolock is still "around" I guess?

    Someone needs to pick a lane and stick in it or it's going to be another 4 months at the #9 spot for winrate and played decks (which hsreplay has it at right now) for Warlock.

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar Swamp 520 860 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    Pretty good, even without the legendary. Getting a 8/8 or 9/9 with taunt on turn 6 is both strong and realistic. Also a buff to Plot Twist Questlock.

     

    However, once again the Warlock set looks disconnected as hell. On one hand  we got galakrond Zoo, then we have Dragon Control and now we have...this? I hope the legendary dragons and neutral dragon support make up for this, otherwise Warlock is doomed to another set of mediocrity

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • AliRadicali's Avatar 400 623 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago
    Quote From MenacingBagel

    10/10 or should I say 12/12? With the legendary, this should summon a whopping 12/12 so that's 12/12 with taunt and the extra 2/2 those are great stats and with warlock's other legendary yet to be revealed I'm expecting a dragon that has nothing to do with handlock 

    It'd be a 9/9 or 11/11 at most because you have to play the summoner before the battlecry effect takes place. Same as with Astromancer

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  • Meteorite12's Avatar Magma Rager 300 247 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    With any control deck it shouldn’t be too hard for it to summon a big taunt minion, at worst it’ll probably summon a 4/4, with bigger ones being relatively common

    Who needs consistency when you could have fun?

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  • DelkoHS's Avatar Bulbasaur 260 263 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    Well since this card counts as a card in hand, the biggest the Demon can get is an 11/11.

    I think this card is a lot beter for HandLock then Valdris Felgorge, as Taunts beat Aggro. But the attack on also strong vs Control decks. A 6 mana 2/2 in the evolve pool is also nice.

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  • RandomGuy's Avatar 305 468 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago
    Quote From ArngrimUndying

    Obvious Handlock synergy, but I really don't get what Blizz is doing with Warlock right now since they've got like 2 cards each for 4 different synergies (Handlock, Dragonlock, Demonlock, and Quest/Shufflelock). Not to mention Lackey Zoolock is still "around" I guess?

    Someone needs to pick a lane and stick in it or it's going to be another 4 months at the #9 spot for winrate and played decks (which hsreplay has it at right now) for Warlock.

    The nice part about Warlock is that it is one of the only decks that can run disparate pieces and still have consistent synergy because of how many cards it sees during the game.

    It's pretty likely that the deck that plays this also plays a dragon package because of twilight and the new breath card.

    Until we see more, this deck probably still plays some manner of plot twist endgame...because that's all it really has right now.

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  • meisterz39's Avatar Anduin 275 202 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    Repost from the news thread, as I meant to post here for the giveaway...

    Abyssal Summoner is kind of meh. To be worth it, you'd probably need at least five cards in hand, and you're probably not really excited about this card until you've got 7 or 8 other cards in hand. That's probably only happening once you get all your "Giant Handlock" win conditions lined up, so this feels like a very late game 6-drop that's hard to be super excited about.

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  • troY's Avatar 160 146 Posts Joined 11/21/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    Good card for Control Warlock, time for it to shine again?

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  • KANSAS's Avatar Wall 670 1019 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    I am really glad to see the support for handlock. This card will be played in every handlock deck out there, but I don't think it will be enough for this sort of 'draw/hand' thing to be viable. 

    Turn 6 is a little late to be putting out large taunts, I am not saying getting a 8/8 taunt on 6 is bad, but it is too late to stop aggro. If we want this deck to be viable, we need a way for this deck to stop aggro, a large taunt is nice, but something to do before turn 4 would be appreciated. Something that plays a similar role to Kobold Librarian, a cheap card that doesn't reduce your hand size, so that handlocks can still be active during the early game, but also still get a turn 4 Mountain Giant.

    A decent card, I mean, it's only a common, but it won't help warlocks get back up on their feet.

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  • frosthearth's Avatar 275 257 Posts Joined 03/18/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    Good in handlock, taunt is good and it's an even card, which is relevant in wild. On a sidenote, it's so sad warlock is a meme class through the year of the dragon expansions when the main villain represents the class. I hope warlock shines with some nee cards. 

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  • Saf's Avatar 110 59 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    Hand-dragon-lock might be a thing, but this card will not find its spot in that deck...

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  • Hedwyn's Avatar Gul'dan 290 159 Posts Joined 07/05/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    Looks very nice, specially in handlock, most of the times this will be a 6 mana 2/2 + 7-8/7-8  taunt, so I love it!

    I'm sorry for my bad english :)

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  • sicknantos's Avatar Bulbasaur 310 176 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    handlock back at it again

    Rage quitting: the best way to ensure your opponent knows they beat a giant baby.

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  • ArngrimUndying's Avatar Jaina 350 326 Posts Joined 06/11/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago
    Quote From RandomGuy
    Quote From ArngrimUndying

    Obvious Handlock synergy, but I really don't get what Blizz is doing with Warlock right now since they've got like 2 cards each for 4 different synergies (Handlock, Dragonlock, Demonlock, and Quest/Shufflelock). Not to mention Lackey Zoolock is still "around" I guess?

    Someone needs to pick a lane and stick in it or it's going to be another 4 months at the #9 spot for winrate and played decks (which hsreplay has it at right now) for Warlock.

    The nice part about Warlock is that it is one of the only decks that can run disparate pieces and still have consistent synergy because of how many cards it sees during the game.

    It's pretty likely that the deck that plays this also plays a dragon package because of twilight and the new breath card.

    Until we see more, this deck probably still plays some manner of plot twist endgame...because that's all it really has right now.

    But does it REALLY have *consistency*, even with all that draw?

    I guess that was kind of my point in bringing up HSReplay/metastats - Warlock has been the single worst class for play % and winrate for the entirety of SoU  & I think partly because none of the "menagerie" decks really have the kind of consistency necessary (in addition to the obvious overpowering of Shamanstone and the fact that few of the "resurrected" Wild cards really helped any main Warlock deck like they did Priest for example).

    None of what we're seeing says that will change with DoD. Can you put together a Menagerie Handlock deck? Sure. Will it be any good, even as a meme? I'm thoroughly skeptical. 

    I said this in a comment on Valdris Felgorge: my guess is Shuffle Warlock was a bust, so Blizz is going back to old fashioned Hand Controlock NEXT YEAR and these two cards are the "first wave" of that so to speak. I expect April's expansion is going to be a lot more synergistic with that than DoD appears to be. 

    But until then ‾\_(ツ)_/‾

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  • linkblade91's Avatar Global Moderator 255 316 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    Obvious card for Even Handlock in Wild, might see play in Standard as well given how relatively easy it is to have a sizable hand as the Warlock. Reminds me of Spiteful Summoner, in a way.

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  • mayhern's Avatar 130 142 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    Not great in general, but devastating in Even Warlock in Wild!

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar 410 625 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    Seems really really good to me warlock is the class with the easiest time having a large hand and the taunt is really relevant you get mountain giant + sunfury protector in ONE card..

    as a handlock/evenlock player I am quite excited..

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  • Koetti's Avatar Island 340 231 Posts Joined 11/21/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    I haven't seen Even-Warlock for quite some time now. Could this be the card that brings this archetype back to live? The fact that the Demon comes with taunt could be the important Detail.

    Long, drawn-out Control Match-ups with Boardclears en masse and an unbelievable amount of greedy cards?

    Sign me up!

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  • Este's Avatar 180 62 Posts Joined 04/02/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    It's going to be better than people think.

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  • Skorpionex's Avatar 120 61 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    Question - Does "hand size" = "cards in hand"?

    Both new cards are using same wording - "hand size" and Valdris one means "total number of cards u can fit in hand". 

    Mountain Giant, Twilight Drake and similar cards have different wording.

    So that means it always summons 10/10 (sometimes 12/12) for 6 mana. 

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  • ArcanisDF's Avatar Dragon 280 177 Posts Joined 08/01/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    amazing!!! strong battlecry, but weak stats. hope to see controlock again

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  • AliRadicali's Avatar 400 623 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago
    Quote From Skorpionex

    Question - Does "hand size" = "cards in hand"?

    Both new cards are using same wording - "hand size" and Valdris one means "total number of cards u can fit in hand". 

    Mountain Giant, Twilight Drake and similar cards have different wording.

    So that means it always summons 10/10 (sometimes 12/12) for 6 mana. 

    Valdris Felgorge refers to 'maximum hand size', so no, I doubt this would always summon a 10/10 or a 12/12. Not only would that make the wording inconsistent, it'd be fairly insane in terms of power level to get a guaranteed 10/10 taunt for 6 mana.

    I don't think we've seen a card refer to "stats" in the game before either. They might be changing formatting standards or they might not care about the older formatting standards.

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