New Paladin Spell - Libram of Justice

Ashes of Outland
  • Arthas's Avatar Black Lotus 1175 4555 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    A new Common Paladin Spell, Libram of Justice, has been revealed!

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar Content Squad Little Devil Teemo 2110 2171 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    What Blizzard thinks players are going to do: Use the weapon on the Silver Hand Recruits to finish the minions.

    What players are actually doing to do: Wild Pyromancer.

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar Skeleton 1935 4206 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    Honestly, even without Libram support this is good enough to run, because it's actually the first time we get this effect asymmetrical. It's a pretty big deal when you don't actually have to murder your own board while playing Wild Pyromancer.

    It also gets improved by the fact that you don't actually need Pyro for it to be useful, because the weapon gives it at least some value as a standalone and that's HUGE for a class that doesn't really have that much access to draw.

    Also, Shrink Ray needed a replacement anyways.

     

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  • RavenSunHS's Avatar Refreshment Vendor 865 1487 Posts Joined 03/27/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    I have just noticed that this is enemy only: as long as you can stay wide enough on the board, this card grants you to stay ahead on Tempo.

    + Wild Pyromancer it becomes board clear AND Mancer survives too!

     

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  • Emptyness's Avatar Supporter 520 525 Posts Joined 03/16/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    Interesting addition to Equality now that Shrink ray is rotating out. And the fact you get a weapon is huge - you can start clearing right away. If you have access to some sort of healing ofc. That's the big question about this card - now that Kangor and Shirvallah are rotating out. But looking at the other revealed cards - I think that some sort of control pala might get a chance on the ladder.

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  • forcemajeure's Avatar 410 230 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    I think this is too expensive to run.  Wild Pyromancer + Equality, or Silver Hand Recruit/trash minion(s) + Equality can get the job done.  This would only be better than those combos if you wanted to keep an important minion on board and can afford 6 mana to do that.

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  • RavenSunHS's Avatar Refreshment Vendor 865 1487 Posts Joined 03/27/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago
    Quote From forcemajeure

    I think this is too expensive to run.  Wild Pyromancer + Equality, or Silver Hand Recruit/trash minion(s) + Equality can get the job done.  This would only be better than those combos if you wanted to keep an important minion on board and can afford 6 mana to do that.

    But this one is a Libram and can be discounted. In later turns, with multiple discounts, it can generate huge swings.

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  • Koetti's Avatar Content Squad 1090 863 Posts Joined 11/21/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    Meh. The Fact that you can reduce its Cost is great, but in most Cases you still need to face-tank some Damage.

    Although, it probably would've been imba if it also changes the Attack to 1.

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  • troY's Avatar Funnel Cakes 250 271 Posts Joined 11/21/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    Seems like a strong card, especially after a cost-decrease.

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  • Horus's Avatar Wizard 2415 2832 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    Shrink Ray rotates out, yet Paladins will do a little more of the same

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  • Haffax733's Avatar Devoted Outlander 1035 297 Posts Joined 04/02/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    More support for control Paladin. But with Shirvallah, the Tiger leaving standard, there is the question if control Paladin will have another win condition besides fatigue.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar Dragon Scholar 1670 4231 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    At 6, its still decent. That it doesnt affect your side of the board is huge, and it provides you with a weapon to take down at least 1 minion with your face. Pair this with cost reduction, and you've got your swing turn tech card all in one.

    Yes, it works well with Wild Pyromancer, Consecration, and just about any small minion. The wild pyro gets to actually live through this, so even with an empty board its still going to clear with a 3/1 left behind.

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  • Brandon's Avatar Old God Fanatic 1195 1783 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    After upgrading it this will be the old pre-nerf Equality but only opponent side and gives you a weapon. Good card.

    RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.

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  • Pezman's Avatar 2035 1684 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    I've been holding onto a couple spare Pyromancers because I can see it getting HoF'd. It didn't this time, but maybe next? Cards like this will continue to make it an auto-include in many control decks.

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar Skeleton 1935 4206 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago
    Quote From Pezman

    I've been holding onto a couple spare Pyromancers because I can see it getting HoF'd. It didn't this time, but maybe next? Cards like this will continue to make it an auto-include in many control decks.

    is that so wrong though? Pyro has always been a soft boardclear for decks that don't exactly get premium removal. It's always gonna be a 2-card clear (or more) which balances it out.

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    It was awful.

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  • Pezman's Avatar 2035 1684 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago
    Quote From YourPrivateNightmare
    Quote From Pezman

    I've been holding onto a couple spare Pyromancers because I can see it getting HoF'd. It didn't this time, but maybe next? Cards like this will continue to make it an auto-include in many control decks.

    is that so wrong though? Pyro has always been a soft boardclear for decks that don't exactly get premium removal. It's always gonna be a 2-card clear (or more) which balances it out.

    No, it's not wrong. But they tend to Hof cards that see too much play. Look a Azure Drake. However, since it's mostly Paladins and Priests that always use it (correct me if I'm overlooking anyone), it might be safe to stay. 

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar Skeleton 1935 4206 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago
    Quote From Pezman
    Quote From YourPrivateNightmare
    Quote From Pezman

    I've been holding onto a couple spare Pyromancers because I can see it getting HoF'd. It didn't this time, but maybe next? Cards like this will continue to make it an auto-include in many control decks.

    is that so wrong though? Pyro has always been a soft boardclear for decks that don't exactly get premium removal. It's always gonna be a 2-card clear (or more) which balances it out.

    No, it's not wrong. But they tend to Hof cards that see too much play. Look a Azure Drake. However, since it's mostly Paladins and Priests that always use it (correct me if I'm overlooking anyone), it might be safe to stay. 

    yeah that's what I meant, only a select number of classes actuallly use it which goes against the idea of it being too common. Stuff like Azure Drake and Leeroy were run in basically any deck that supported their playstyle, whereas Pyro only really makes sense in classes that can actually use it's effect efficiently. Also the reason why Gadgetzan Auctioneer hasn't been HoF'd yet.

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    It was awful.

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  • Erodos's Avatar Crossroads Historian 935 1017 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    This might see play, depending on the strength of Libram Paladin. It's a good control tool, but in a class with too few other control tools to make a cohesive deck.

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  • linkblade91's Avatar Global Moderator Lissandra 1610 2023 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    Obviously going to be good if the Libram Package functions well; you could make it cost zero! Going straight into a Pure Paladin. You don't even need to discount it (but why would you not try).

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  • Elfensilver's Avatar 590 663 Posts Joined 03/14/2019
    Posted 2 years, 4 months ago

    The golden version looks great!

     

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