New Warlock Spell - Hand of Gul'dan

Ashes of Outland
  • Arthas's Avatar
    Black Lotus 1215 4978 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    A new Common Warlock Spell, Hand of Gul'dan, has been revealed!

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 1980 4495 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    This is immensly boring.

    Warlock is already good at drawing cards, they don't need gimmicky ways to draw even more, they need either healing or an actual win condition, neither of which is currently present.

    I do believe Galakrond will still be the better version of tempo zoo, but hey, maybe in the future we get some actual Discard support instead of half baked reprints.

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • CovenantKevlar's Avatar
    340 67 Posts Joined 07/21/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    YES, finally another card that you want to discard. The reason why discard never works in warlock is because you end up discarding cards that are valuable. I can't wait to play an Expired Merchant on turn 2 while discarding Hand of Gul'dan. I think in a zooish discard deck that will be sweet to use

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  • Almaniarra's Avatar
    Devoted Outlander 900 1351 Posts Joined 03/21/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    I loved the relation between Skull of Gul'dan - Hand of Gul'dan.

    But well, @YourPrivateNightmare is right, it is boring to see card draw engines in Warlock but hey ! it is a discard synergy card which is cool with Nightshade Matron and Expired Merchant.

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  • Brandon's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1310 2008 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    Helpful for drawing a lot of cards. Maybe this will let zoo-lock go fast enough to run Chef Nomi?

    RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.

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  • Mercynary9's Avatar
    355 239 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    I can finally dust off my old zoo discard-lock, drawing 3 cards for free is amazing.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1810 4685 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    This thing is absolutely insane, and built properly nearly renders hp completely redundant in games.

    It can fit in handlock and combos with Nightshade Matron, but its true calling is in zoolock. Use this along with Expired Merchant, draw three, and later, generate two more Hand of Gul'dans so your discard cards have a likelier chance of hitting this and drawing you 3 cards again. The threat of overdrawing doesnt come to zoo, since they empty it just as easy.

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  • PLANETCRUNCH's Avatar
    E.V.I.L. Dragon 820 1224 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    OH BOY I can't wait to play this on curve when I failed to discard it multiple times! 

    Like it replaces Soularium for card draw but you gotta dance around it JUST right to make it effective

     

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  • Horus's Avatar
    Wizard 2505 3079 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    Paying 6 mana ...                                     Discarding it for free

    Struggle with Heroic Galakrond's Awakening? I got your back : 

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  • boinkydoinky's Avatar
    180 25 Posts Joined 03/20/2020
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    You know, this could be a kind of cool package within the existing Galakrond Zoo.

    You don't run the new Nightshade Matron, but you do run Expired Merchant. Most people are rightly pointing out that you can't put Galakrond and Kronx in a deck with this card because discarding them with Nightshade Matron is really bad. But discarding them with Expired Merchant just might be the late game gas that Zoo needs against slower decks.

    Running this card and Expired Merchant as a small discard package might push existing Galakrond Zoo in a slower direction. Throw in the new Prime, Imprisoned Scrap Imp and maybe even the new Enhanced Dreadlord and you've got a midrangey-ish Zoolock.

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  • Haffax733's Avatar
    Devoted Outlander 1035 297 Posts Joined 04/02/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    This card is a great addition to Zoolock and might make the non-Galakrond version stronger than the Galakrond version. The combo with Nightshade Matron is strong and and fills the role of Veiled Worshipper in Galakrond Warlock.

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  • Emptyness's Avatar
    Supporter 520 525 Posts Joined 03/16/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    You never play this, I guess. But I wonder if discard would work so "reliably"... and "timely". 

    I miss Solarium already. Great legendary.

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  • Elfensilver's Avatar
    595 663 Posts Joined 03/14/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    Looks okay - but 3 different cards don't make a standard disco-lock possible.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1580 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    Seems like a cool card, goes well with the rush minion..

    might be good with the 2 cards that target high costed cards.

    and if you run galakround you might be ok with gettign galakround duplicated with the merchant.

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  • liontail's Avatar
    Draconically Dedicated 210 277 Posts Joined 09/04/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    personally locks have a lot of methods to draw cards or recycle hand..this feels too costly just to "get more cards" considering lock is probably one of the class that can draw the easiest.

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  • Guenh's Avatar
    Devoted Academic 725 633 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    Another card for Discard Lock....o god. So annoying XD

    Anyway in this set we have some tool to discard this card, so I think it's an "ok" card with some limitation in a class that already draw a lot

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  • Erodos's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 935 1017 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    This is the reason that you might want to play Discard warlock in standard, Drawing 3 cards for free is insane, even in a class that already has as much card draw as warlock.

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  • Xarkkal's Avatar
    Servant of Illidan 900 1321 Posts Joined 03/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    Great if you discard, terrible if you play it. There is nowhere near enough Discard support in Standard for this to see play. Trash until more discard support is printed for standard.

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  • linkblade91's Avatar
    Global Moderator 1650 2258 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    Oh God, I hope this doesn't mean we're seeing more discolock cards later in the Year. I'm so tired of supporting that failed archetype; move on to something else, please. I hate discarding.

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  • economicaooc's Avatar
    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 2 years, 10 months ago

    Another piece towards assembling the puzzle of discard warlock. They will eventually figure it out, I'm sure. This card is pretty great, but seems like an eternal scourge on "get an infinite well of 3/4 specific cards" tavern brawls. Potential with Expired Merchant in evenlock is probably there. This card will be good some day.

    This post is discussing the wild format.

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