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New Druid/Shaman Spell - Lightning Bloom

  • Arthas's Avatar Black Lotus 455 1100 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago

    A new Common Druid/Shaman Spell, Lightning Bloom, has been revealed!

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar 975 1875 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago

    Unless it's for a combo it's neutral in terms of mana.

    are there overload synergies in standard?

    now you can play tunnel trogg into 4 mana 7/7 on the same turn(you play 2 of this) in wild..

    ben brode junior is done for..

    Oh it's also even.. RIP WILD.

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  • UVE's Avatar Darkmaster 415 299 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago
    Quote From DoubleSummon

    Unless it's for a combo it's neutral in terms of mana.

    are there overload synergies in standard?

    now you can play tunnel trogg into 4 mana 7/7 on the same turn(you play 2 of this) in wild..

    ben brode junior is done for..

    Oh it's also even.. RIP WILD.

    Turn 1 5/3 and 7/7? Seems fair.

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  • economicaooc's Avatar 265 359 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago

    Innervate is back, and shamans have it too.

    Shamans will now have access to a whole world of combos that don't exist yet, and at least one of them is guaranteed to involve mecha'thun. Maybe good, maybe not, but I'm looking forward to trying it out.

    And yet another 0-cost spell for druids. I guess.

    This post is discussing the wild format.

    The down-vote is an 'I disagree' button, not an insult.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar 975 1875 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago
    Quote From UVE
    Quote From DoubleSummon

    Unless it's for a combo it's neutral in terms of mana.

    are there overload synergies in standard?

    now you can play tunnel trogg into 4 mana 7/7 on the same turn(you play 2 of this) in wild..

    ben brode junior is done for..

    Oh it's also even.. RIP WILD.

    Turn 1 5/3 and 7/7? Seems fair.

    Now this looks pathetic in comparison to what this cards makes possible XD.

    7/3 and a 7/7 cause you are overloading for 6.

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  • Brandon's Avatar Devoted Outlander 345 413 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago

    This card is NUTS in wild. This card is also amazing in standard! This lets druid Innervate or Coin into Lightning Bloom into Overgrowth to ramp a lot. This also basicly "Removes" the downside for druid. For shaman this might be usefull for OTK? Probably good for Malygos Shaman, as you will be able to use malygos without lowering costs, and just cast a bunch of 1 mana spells thanks to mana generated by Lightning Bloom.

    Generally 0 mana cards find a way to break the game, but i'm sure this might be THE most broken 0 cost card we have seen so far. (and we thought 0 mana Twin Slice was broken.)

     

     

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  • MenacingBagel's Avatar Buccaneer 350 421 Posts Joined 09/24/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago

    Looks super strong on paper because its just pre-nerf innervate with some overload and since its 0 mana once again spellburst effects!

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  • GoliathTheDwarf's Avatar Content Squad Devoted Academic 485 535 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago

    Very interesting trade off. You get extra mana this turn, but at the cost of having that much less mana next turn. This looks worthy of experimentation to me. 

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  • Emptyness's Avatar Supporter 470 525 Posts Joined 03/16/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago

    I can see it in some shaman decks, because they can get benefits from/get away with the overload mechanic. But in a druid - it kinda feels lacking (especially in standard). I remember that floop's gloop legendary spell never saw much attention by the druids and I guess this one won't either. The dead next turn makes it so much different than innervate in my opinion.

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar Content Squad 940 1179 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago

    I've seen this card several times on HearthCards as a Shaman card, so it's cool to actually see it in the game now, and as a dual-class card.

    I don't think it's too strong, but it has some potential.

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar Swamp 985 2126 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago

    Well, obviously there's combo potential here. Druid getting old Innervate back (even with the Overload downside) is nothing to laugh at. Theere are a lot of game ending combos in this game that can potentially be pulled off by just having some free extra mana.

    If Shaman has some sort of Overload payoff this can be huge. Hell, even if they don't it's still worth to run this just to cheat out some swing cards (like the buffed The Lurker Below, imagine dropping that thing on 4 against some Demon hunter and wiping their board completely)

    In Druid it obviously helps big Druid in the early game (a lot of the time you lose by having to pass one turn because you didn't draw big guys on curve and this is a better option than Innervate). Hell maybe Quest Druid can make a return with this (how does the Quest work with overloaded mana crystals? Do they count as unspent?)

     

    Honestly this has a great amount of applications. Mana cheating has only gotten stronger as the game evolved.

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar Swamp 985 2126 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago
    Quote From UVE
    Quote From DoubleSummon

    Unless it's for a combo it's neutral in terms of mana.

    are there overload synergies in standard?

    now you can play tunnel trogg into 4 mana 7/7 on the same turn(you play 2 of this) in wild..

    ben brode junior is done for..

    Oh it's also even.. RIP WILD.

    Turn 1 5/3 and 7/7? Seems fair.

    but it's balancced because they have to pass turn 2 :^)

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • MrRhapsody's Avatar Design Finalist 315 61 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago

    Turn 1 Vicious Fledgling flashbacks. I hope the Overload will be a decent downside this time... but it might be an upside for Aggro Shaman, oh man, this card is actualy kinda scary.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar 760 1352 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago

    At some point this will be nerfed to 1 mana, or to only refresh mana crystals. Why isn't it just refresh mana crystals though? Its effectively a turn 1 5 drop that immediately ends the game in some cases. Oh, and the paltry fact that they have to skip development on turn 2 is quite moot considering both shaman and druids always had poor turn 2s anyway.

    Beyond this there's always ramp for combo potential, like in totem shaman, where its always just 1 mana crystal away from doing truly ridiculous turns.

    I want to like this, but this is almost inevitably going to cause problems in standard at some point.

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  • theo333's Avatar 440 367 Posts Joined 03/29/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago

    Absolutely great for Wild Big Shaman. You can get that 8-mana Big minion Walking Fountain out early or 4-mana Corrupt Elementalist or 5-mana Galakrond.

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  • JackJimson's Avatar 245 296 Posts Joined 11/19/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago

    First thing comes to mind are OTK builds for both classes.

    Maybe a burn spell shaman can become a thing. This card will offer a lot of burst.

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  • KANSAS's Avatar 1120 2242 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago

    This card has its uses in combo decks, or to get some extra tempo with Overload synergies. But I am not sure if it will be worth it overall. I had little hope for Biology Project, and somehow I feel this card will go down a similar road. Overall the net value is 0, but you had to spend a card on it which makes it poor card advantage.

    *edit* The more I think about this card, the more powerful I think it is. 4/5 stars.

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  • Synnr7's Avatar 280 62 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago

    Mana cheating is always strong. This card will make new combos possible and mostly replace innervate in those decks. Shaman with overload synergy will do well with this too. Definitely will be strong. Still the overload keeps it in check enough that despite strong burst, outside of game winning combos, this card will be punishing enough to keep it balanced. 

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  • Mazinger31's Avatar 220 36 Posts Joined 08/05/2019
    Posted 3 months, 1 week ago

    This card is strong.  Ridiculously strong.  Like you might not see it until the Shaman slams Malygos then uses 2 of these to cheat out a bunch of burn spells that kill you strong.  Malygos OTK is officially back in Standard.

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