New Mage & Shaman Minion - Ras Frostwhisper

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  • Arthas's Avatar
    Black Lotus 1265 5149 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    A new Legendary Mage/Shaman Minion, Ras Frostwhisper, has been revealed!

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  • KANSAS's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1745 2912 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    Slightly better Despicable Dreadlord. Despicable Dreadlord isn't a bad card, so I don't think this will be a bad card either.

    Shamans will probably get more use out of it because of Wrath of Air Totem.

    I am a little underwhelmed by this legendary, it isn't a bad card, but not a very impressive one. I will play this if I open it, but it isn't worth crafting.

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • NegativeNemsy's Avatar
    405 206 Posts Joined 07/10/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    I really like the design of almost all of these dual class cards so far.  This one benefits mage a little more than Shaman right now.  Mage has a couple more spell damage class cards in Standard than Shaman plus a lot more in wild.  I think for Shaman to get the most out of this card, it would need a weapon with spell damage on it.  Mage now has a 9 mana Flamestike with Kirin Tor Tricaster.  I'm not sure what that is worth but it could be an interesting deck build

     

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  • economicaooc's Avatar
    460 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    I can't really imagine a deck in which you are willing to run this as a combo board clear when mage and shaman have access  to so many great single card control tools already. The single sided nature of the board clear is less relevant when you can't use it to bypass taunt minions.

    If you want to do something strong with this, shaman is probably to class to go for, especially with lightning bloom being printed. The problem is that any combo that generates a lot of spell damage in one turn could also win by just playing burn spells.

    This post is discussing the wild format.

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  • GoliathTheDwarf's Avatar
    970 665 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    I like seeing spell damage used creatively like this. It reminds me a bit of Unexpected Results from Boomsday in that style. 

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  • Elfensilver's Avatar
    595 663 Posts Joined 03/14/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    I'm surprised that we didn't have a similar card in the D-A-M-A-G-E card design competion.

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  • Erodos's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 935 1018 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    As a huge fan of Spell Damage Shaman I'm insanely excited for this card. It's already a reasonably decent deck, and great support cards like this will really lift it to the next level.

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  • BloodMefist's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 825 728 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    We currently don't have much spell damage to support this card, but it's got a good baseline ability and stat spread already.  I think it might see play in tempo-decks since it clears the board and also pushes face damage, but we'll see how that shakes out.  If nothing else I think it makes Highlander lists just because its a pretty decent stand alone card.

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  • Horus's Avatar
    Metrognome 2515 3148 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago
    Quote From GoliathTheDwarf

    I like seeing spell damage used creatively like this. It reminds me a bit of Unexpected Results from Boomsday in that style. 

    Indeed, fun creative scaling mechanic with a lovely mini AoE on a stick 
    I like it already

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  • scuac's Avatar
    385 167 Posts Joined 07/31/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago
    Quote From KANSAS

    Slightly better Despicable Dreadlord. Despicable Dreadlord isn't a bad card, so I don't think this will be a bad card either.

    Shamans will probably get more use out of it because of Wrath of Air Totem.

    I am a little underwhelmed by this legendary, it isn't a bad card, but not a very impressive one. I will play this if I open it, but it isn't worth crafting.

    It is a much better card than Despicable Dreadlord, has more health (more sticky) and goes face. I you can get any spell damage it is absurd.

    A puzzle box? What does it say? ... Yogi-Saffron something... sure, let's open it, what is the worst that could happen?

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  • Me0203's Avatar
    Design Champion 745 480 Posts Joined 06/13/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    This is lovely. Anybody else hoping that the other two Mage/Shaman cards will also have spell damage synergy? I can't wait!

    Better call Thrall!

     

     

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  • Emptyness's Avatar
    Supporter 520 525 Posts Joined 03/16/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    I like it. 6 health is sticky enough and if you combine it with spell dmg, it can provide board clears for ages or until it's dealt with. And both classes has access to enough +spell dmg to make this one a scary threat. 

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  • Meteorite12's Avatar
    670 696 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    Both classes have a dragon that gives +2 spell damage, and shaman of course has the totem, so it’s not that difficult to get spell damage for this thing. Kind of weird that it goes face though

    Who needs consistency when you could have fun?

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  • dapperdog's Avatar
    Dragon Scholar 1840 4903 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    Let's be honest, how often has mage run spell damage minions or effects? Judged on its own, its basically a Dragonmaw Scorcher plus, and that's what it will be 90% of the time. With only 6 health, it will die the following turn and if it doesn't, you're likely in a commanding position to win anyway.

    You might run this along with Bloodmage Thalnos and little else for a sometimes swingy play on 7, but otherwise its not really anyway impressive. There have been decks in the past running synergistic spell damage cards like Ethereal Augmerchant and Arcane Watcher, and mage has access to the very strong Azure Explorer, but in most cases, it has never worked out. For this card to maybe work, it must itself have spell damage, maybe +1, but unfortunately, it doesn't.

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  • DarkFrostX's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 830 1229 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    Really good, even if you don't invest in spell power it seems like a solid threat on the board.

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  • Pezman's Avatar
    2085 1761 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    This looks like a really good and fun card. The fact that it goes face might make a big difference sometimes. It will be hard to set this up for a massive blast (someone mentioned Kirin Tor Tricaster above) and even harder to make it stick for a turn, but solid value nonetheless.

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  • allthehype's Avatar
    Crossroads Historian 630 738 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    Both mage and shaman can get put spell damage easily, and Despicable Dreadlord was always a solid play. So yes, this could improve a lot of decks while not being a buildaround. 

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar
    Skeleton 2010 4715 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    Better Dreadlord so I guess it will be a staple regardless of how reliably you can combo it with spell damage

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1580 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    This card can totally lock you out of a game.. Just like despicable dreadlord locked out odd paladin.. You get some spells damage and you could basically win against aggro. 

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  • Brandon's Avatar
    Old God Fanatic 1310 2094 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 2 years, 8 months ago

    So for Shaman it's a SLIGHTLY better Despicable Dreadlord at best, as this can hit FACE. BUT the damage increases with spell dmg. However i don't think this will EVER stay alive longer than 1 turn, so you gotta have a lot of spell dmg on board for this to work. And opponents always LOVE removing spell damage. And this also doesn't have that much synergy with Squallhunter, because of Squallhunters overload. Unless you play it AFTER [Hearthstone Card (Ray Frostwhisper) Not Found] survives a turn, which is VERY UNLIKELY. 

    For mage it has way more synergy and better cards like Azure Explorer and Kirin Tor Tricaster. This will probably see play in a more blast/burn mage archetype.

    RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.

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