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New Warlock Spell - Demonic Studies

  • Arthas's Avatar Black Lotus 455 1100 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    A new Common Warlock Spell, Demonic Studies, has been revealed!

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar Swamp 985 2126 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    I really like Kripp's argument for Jaraxxus. This actually does bypass the problem of lost tempo with that card.

    Just in general this could be cool to run in a few decks, but only Jaraxxus can be built around with it.

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar 975 1875 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    Demons got many synergies this expansion maybe you can run a good demon deck.. I like that this card can be just played in any demon deck and not just aggro or control.

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  • Meteorite12's Avatar 580 684 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    Isn’t this just a better Dark Possession? I mean I get that Dark Possession works with all of the self damage cards and life changing cards, but still

    Who needs consistency when you could have fun?

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  • BloodMefist's Avatar Design Champion 325 325 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    We all knew this was coming.  Kind of sad to see that this is literally the only big demon support Archwitch Willow gets this expansion.

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  • KANSAS's Avatar 1120 2244 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    I really like how the cost reduction effect stays active for as long as you want, which means you can use this card to cheat our big demons a turn early. I don't know if any deck exists out there that wants to cheat out big demons one turn earlier and doesn't already have the means to, but it is a nice little card all the same.

    "Carrion, my wayward grub"

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  • economicaooc's Avatar 265 359 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    The problem this card faces is that most demons are bad for the average value-based renolock, especially considering that they pollute the ressurection and voidcaller pools, and that aggressive decks usually prefer immediately strong cards over card generation effects.

    This is good, but just doesn't have a home in wild.

    This post is discussing the wild format.

    The down-vote is an 'I disagree' button, not an insult.

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  • Sparkinarius's Avatar Devoted Academic 285 186 Posts Joined 07/18/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    Believe or not, Lord Jaraxxus wasn't always a meme. When Emperor Thaurissan was in Standard, Jaraxxus saw play as discounting him to 8 mana to fit in the HP helped lessened the tempo loss of just playing him. In a Soul Fragment Warlock, I could see this with Jaraxxus plus Spirit Jailer and Void Drinker for a Sense Demons package. The Demon discover pool for Warlock isn't that bad as well, as there are those Soul Fragment Demons I just mentioned. Demonic Studies could allow for Lord Jaraxxus to be the win condition of that Soul Fragment deck, especially with all the healing in the deck and universal efficient burst cards like Leeroy Jenkins don't exist in standard anymore.

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar Content Squad 940 1180 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    Remember Dark Possession? The 1 mana Discover a Demon card with a downside?

    This just wipes the floor with that card in every single way. Theoretically, it could be really useful with Jaraxxus since it would allow you to get a 6/6 out on the same turn as Jaraxxus himself. That might not make Jaraxxus good again, but it will certainly help him out quite a bit. It seems like one of the less good Study cards, but it might still find a home since the effect is still good.

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  • DarkFrostX's Avatar 300 446 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    Also RIP Call of the Void, never saw play, never will now.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar 760 1352 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    As mentioned above (i havent watch the video myself) kripp thinks its good because it bypasses the Lord Jaraxxus tempo issue. That's fair. But then again, it doesn't change the fact that you'd maybe just die after playing jaraxxus anyway.

    Discovering demons is always tricky, especially since the truly good demons are all dhunter cards. I personally think this is trash, but am open to be proven wrong.

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar Anduin 495 586 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago
    Quote From DarkFrostX

    Also RIP Call of the Void, never saw play, never will now.

    Even tough i kinda like the card i also think this will almost see no play at all. I mean yes it makes the next one cheaper so i guess it is ok but not sure if it will see play

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  • Brandon's Avatar Devoted Outlander 345 413 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    Like kripp said, this is really good to get Lord Jaraxxus a turn earlier, and Lord Jarraxus back in the days was always really strong on turn 8, but that said it was quite a long time ago. So we will see if Lord Jaraxxus will be any good these days, or if it really fell of HARD.

    Also Demonic Studies can dicover a lot of demons. And because of the discover nerfs some time ago, it means that both class/neutral cards are as likely to show up. And neutral has some REALLY bad demons like Desk Imp (bad with the discount), Magtheridon (bad.), Supreme Abyssal (no silence = bad card) and Sathrovarr (only good in combo decks). Now that i'm looking at it, i hardly see any GOOD demons in the standard pool. This card is really hard to use.

     

     

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  • Vandaren's Avatar 335 565 Posts Joined 06/05/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    No complains for all the studies, this can generate good value within the demon pool right now.

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  • Emptyness's Avatar Supporter 470 525 Posts Joined 03/16/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    Interesting arguments about discounting Lord J. It actually might work. But will it be competitive enough in standard? 

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  • Pezman's Avatar 620 804 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    Not sure this one is quite as good as the other Studies, but it should see some play I think. Demons are less predictable in terms of value.

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  • JFK's Avatar 480 442 Posts Joined 07/31/2019
  • PLANETCRUNCH's Avatar Goblin 450 863 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    a cheap, flexible spell that discounts warlocks favorite minion type.

    Aside from it's flexibility it has a nice synergy with Arcwitch Willow, allowing you to discover a high cost minion that she can summon with her effect.

    It might be good enough to run in constructed, it doesn't do anything on the board but it also doesn't take away from your hand size which handlock really strives for.

    with AoO being very Demon heavy and a handful of Demons from this set Warlock could have roughly 40 choices to discover with this card.

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  • Guenh's Avatar Devoted Academic 405 496 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    Good interaction with Jaraxus, but probably this is the "worst Study". Anyway it's a discount with free extra value. It's ok at least

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  • ElSabidon's Avatar 245 259 Posts Joined 06/07/2019
    Posted 2 months, 3 weeks ago

    Demon pool very polarizing, the discount to Jaraxxus, in my opinion, won't be enough to change it. Sure, it will be less of a tempo loss, but it's equiping a 3/8 weapon and summoning a 6/6 for 10 mana. These days, that seems way too little in terms of power, especially when considering how Lord Jaraxxus cripples your health pool.

    Rating cards on coolness factor rather than predicting power because I like screwing up rating averages (and because I suck at predicting real power levels, but we'll ignore that LUL)
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