New Neutral Minion - Stonetusk Boar

  • Arthas's Avatar Black Lotus 880 2504 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 9 months ago

    A new Common Neutral Minion, Stonetusk Boar, has been revealed!

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  • darkjak's Avatar E.V.I.L. Dragon 445 540 Posts Joined 07/06/2019
    Posted 9 months ago

    This was the only way Dire Frenzy could make it into Core

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  • KANSAS's Avatar Old God Fanatic 1745 2904 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 9 months ago

    This seems like a good change. The card can do fewer things now, but it is more efficient at the things is can do. It is less problematic, while also being playable in more decks.

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar Dragon Scholar 1475 3285 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 9 months ago

    I have to be honest, I don't like the removal of charge from everything. Team5 could've just left at least one in standard, this one for instance, so the dream of pulling out some combo will still be possible. I remember the dead days of boar hunter, in AoO, made possible precisely because it had charge, and gave hunter a semblance of a chance in that trying tempo dhunter period. Guess we won't ever be seeing any more of that.

    On its own, its bad. Basically for a class that can't draw for shit, every card must count, and this one happily runs itself to its death the same turn you play him, with no obvious combo of either keeping him alive or doing some really powerful stuff. Is there any reason to not play say, Arcane Shot, or Backstab, or in fact any other card, instead of a 1 mana deal 2 to a minion? The only thing I can think of to justify a card slot would be Saddlemaster, an equally weak card in its own right.

    Perhaps this signals that team5 is going to print something that will cheapen beasts in hand, in which case there's a sliver of an opportunity for new boar to actually see play. But until then, this is trash, topped only by new Bluegill Warrior.

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  • sinti's Avatar Global Moderator Barrens Sleuth 1950 2489 Posts Joined 10/20/2018
    Posted 9 months ago
    Quote From dapperdog

    I have to be honest, I don't like the removal of charge from everything. Team5 could've just left at least one in standard, this one for instance, so the dream of pulling out some combo will still be possible. I remember the dead days of boar hunter, in AoO, made possible precisely because it had charge, and gave hunter a semblance of a chance in that trying tempo dhunter period. Guess we won't ever be seeing any more of that.

    On its own, its bad. Basically for a class that can't draw for shit, every card must count, and this one happily runs itself to its death the same turn you play him, with no obvious combo of either keeping him alive or doing some really powerful stuff. Is there any reason to not play say, Arcane Shot, or Backstab, or in fact any other card, instead of a 1 mana deal 2 to a minion? The only thing I can think of to justify a card slot would be Saddlemaster, an equally weak card in its own right.

    Perhaps this signals that team5 is going to print something that will cheapen beasts in hand, in which case there's a sliver of an opportunity for new boar to actually see play. But until then, this is trash, topped only by new Bluegill Warrior.

    There are other game modes other than Constructed, you know. It will be pretty good Arena card, probably Duels too, and can appear in Brawls. Definitely not a useless card by any means in the set.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar Dragon Scholar 1475 3285 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 9 months ago
    Quote From sinti
    Quote From dapperdog

    I have to be honest, I don't like the removal of charge from everything. Team5 could've just left at least one in standard, this one for instance, so the dream of pulling out some combo will still be possible. I remember the dead days of boar hunter, in AoO, made possible precisely because it had charge, and gave hunter a semblance of a chance in that trying tempo dhunter period. Guess we won't ever be seeing any more of that.

    On its own, its bad. Basically for a class that can't draw for shit, every card must count, and this one happily runs itself to its death the same turn you play him, with no obvious combo of either keeping him alive or doing some really powerful stuff. Is there any reason to not play say, Arcane Shot, or Backstab, or in fact any other card, instead of a 1 mana deal 2 to a minion? The only thing I can think of to justify a card slot would be Saddlemaster, an equally weak card in its own right.

    Perhaps this signals that team5 is going to print something that will cheapen beasts in hand, in which case there's a sliver of an opportunity for new boar to actually see play. But until then, this is trash, topped only by new Bluegill Warrior.

    There are other game modes other than Constructed, you know. It will be pretty good Arena card, probably Duels too, and can appear in Brawls. Definitely not a useless card by any means in the set.

    By that reasoning, there are no 'bad' cards. The context of my review/rant is obviously standard constructed because that's where the decision to include into a deck is pertinent and I simply cannot see why anyone would want it. Paladin is the only class that comes closes because there's no 1 mana removal in that class currently, and even then I cannot see why boar would be taken over the deluge of other 1 drops.

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  • sinti's Avatar Global Moderator Barrens Sleuth 1950 2489 Posts Joined 10/20/2018
    Posted 9 months ago
    Quote From dapperdog
    Quote From sinti
    Quote From dapperdog

    I have to be honest, I don't like the removal of charge from everything. Team5 could've just left at least one in standard, this one for instance, so the dream of pulling out some combo will still be possible. I remember the dead days of boar hunter, in AoO, made possible precisely because it had charge, and gave hunter a semblance of a chance in that trying tempo dhunter period. Guess we won't ever be seeing any more of that.

    On its own, its bad. Basically for a class that can't draw for shit, every card must count, and this one happily runs itself to its death the same turn you play him, with no obvious combo of either keeping him alive or doing some really powerful stuff. Is there any reason to not play say, Arcane Shot, or Backstab, or in fact any other card, instead of a 1 mana deal 2 to a minion? The only thing I can think of to justify a card slot would be Saddlemaster, an equally weak card in its own right.

    Perhaps this signals that team5 is going to print something that will cheapen beasts in hand, in which case there's a sliver of an opportunity for new boar to actually see play. But until then, this is trash, topped only by new Bluegill Warrior.

    There are other game modes other than Constructed, you know. It will be pretty good Arena card, probably Duels too, and can appear in Brawls. Definitely not a useless card by any means in the set.

    By that reasoning, there are no 'bad' cards. The context of my review/rant is obviously standard constructed because that's where the decision to include into a deck is pertinent and I simply cannot see why anyone would want it. Paladin is the only class that comes closes because there's no 1 mana removal in that class currently, and even then I cannot see why boar would be taken over the deluge of other 1 drops.

    That's right, technically, there are no bad cards. There are bad cards for certain game modes and there are cards that are (a lot) worse than alternatives, but all cards can find a place to be played somewhere.

    There is a Humongous Razorleaf in the Core set, which will  never see a play in anything but Silence Priest at best, but it also serves to dilute the random/discover pool in some situations. You cant only have top tier cards in a set, how would you then know which cards are better? Boar is by no means a dead card, it just wont be used to push face damage. It might not be put in any popular deck list, but it will be pulled by RNG effects and it will help in certain situations.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar Ancestral Recall 1580 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 9 months ago

    So it took them 7 years to finally make this change huh?

    They had to complain this was restricting them for so long and yet they didn't change it.

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  • DarkFrostX's Avatar Old God Fanatic 830 1206 Posts Joined 07/26/2019
    Posted 8 months, 4 weeks ago

    Deathstalker Rexxar nerf as well

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  • Hydrafrog's Avatar Gul'dan 1630 2810 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 8 months, 4 weeks ago

    Yeah you can't go face anymore right out the gate... but a strong punch to the face of a minion should be worth it a little

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  • Brandon's Avatar Old God Fanatic 985 1411 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 8 months, 3 weeks ago

    AMAZING CHANGE. I'm so glad those sons of a *Yoggs* finally did it! Stonetusk Boar was often very problematic and allowed for way too many cheaty things. This nerf should have been like 7 years ago. And now that we see that The Caverns Below got unnerfed i'm only more happy with this nerf. No R.I.P for Stonetusk Boar, rather R.I.H. (Rest In Hell.)

    RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.

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