New Druid Minion - Elise the Enlightened

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  • Arthas's Avatar
    Black Lotus 1215 4980 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    A new Legendary Druid Minion, Elise the Enlightened, has been revealed!

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  • kaladin's Avatar
    360 396 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    I'm not sure.  It does allow you to play three Chef Nomis, which may be a win con.  I like the continuity of Elise always being a 5-mana 5/5. 

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  • ValerinBizonov's Avatar
    105 7 Posts Joined 06/14/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    Very good in Wild (where Reno Druids already exists), but is it strong enough to build whole deck around it? I doubt it. I think that this card might enable tricky combo, but currently I don't have any ideas.

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  • AnAngryBadger's Avatar
    645 216 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago
    Quote From kaladin

    I'm not sure.  It does allow you to play three Chef Nomis, which may be a win con.  I like the continuity of Elise always being a 5-mana 5/5. 

    Elise was originally a 4 mana 3/5

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  • RandomGuy's Avatar
    430 614 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago
    Quote From kaladin

    I'm not sure.  It does allow you to play three Chef Nomis, which may be a win con.  I like the continuity of Elise always being a 5-mana 5/5. 

    That actually seems like a pretty reasonable use. Miracle your deck. Copy Nomi, Copy Floop. Now you have 4 boards. Savage roars, and reasonable heal.

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  • frosthearth's Avatar
    645 585 Posts Joined 03/18/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    Amazing potential with Flobbidinous Floop

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  • Kovachut's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 675 756 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    Dunno how viable Elise would be in both formats, but I like how she offers a lot of combo potential. Imho together with Sir Finley she is one of the GOOD guys, who is going to be worth the dust. Also, the following is a minor thing to praise, but I like how her effect matches her title ("the Enlightened") quite nicely.

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  • duppie's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 320 240 Posts Joined 04/02/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    Interesting card.  On raw power and not the context of class it seems the strongest of the 4.  5 5/5 draw till you double your handsize is super good value but there is no reason to build a highlander deck around that on it's own especially with the power level of druid.  

    There are potentials for some combo stuff with malygos moonfire stuff.  Play this, now you have two floop, two maly and two moonfire, play a floop version of this on the same turn, now you have 4 moonfire, maly, and 2 floop, then next turn you can maly for 24 damage to the face, or you can maly and then the turn after THAT, you double floop maly for like 40+ damage.  

    something like that, you get the idea.  certainly a way to optimize it better but i haven't thought about it too much.  this challenge will be making a druid highlander deck that can live long enough to draw 4 specific cards.  

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1580 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    Seems not worth to me.. if you want duplicates of stuff why run a highlander deck?

     

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  • iWatchUSleep's Avatar
    1095 819 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago
    Quote From ValerinBizonov

    Very good in Wild (where Reno Druids already exists), but is it strong enough to build whole deck around it? I doubt it. I think that this card might enable tricky combo, but currently I don't have any ideas.

    How is this very good in wild?

    A deck "existing" doesn't mean it's good. Technically all reno decks already "exist" in wild. It's just that none of them are even close to competitive besides three.

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  • kaladin's Avatar
    360 396 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago
    Quote From AnAngryBadger
    Quote From kaladin

    I'm not sure.  It does allow you to play three Chef Nomis, which may be a win con.  I like the continuity of Elise always being a 5-mana 5/5. 

    Elise was originally a 4 mana 3/5

    Oops.  

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  • kaladin's Avatar
    360 396 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago
    Quote From DoubleSummon

    Seems not worth to me.. if you want duplicates of stuff why run a highlander deck?

     

    Duplicate legendaries.

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  • AliRadicali's Avatar
    460 713 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    At first glance this seems pretty exciting until you realise that most of the value gained from hand-duplication is lost in the highlander requirement. For the moment the only reason I see to play this would be floop into floop into ????, but that seems veeery slow.

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  • dib's Avatar
    Rock Rager 415 133 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    Not trying to defend this card or anything but a lot of people seem to think that you need to build a highlander deck to make this work. This is not true, you just need no duplicates in your deck.

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  • Eddetektor's Avatar
    45 5 Posts Joined 07/10/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    People seem to forget, that a deck with duplicates can still include this card. Just all of them need to be drawn before she is played.

    There are some crazy combos to be made with it:

    Aviana + Kun the Forgotten King + Elise the Enlightened + 2xMalygosGloop Sprayer gives +20 spellpower (doable already with Faceless Manipulator) and doubles all the spells on top of that.

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  • Chimera's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 685 680 Posts Joined 10/22/2018
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    So basically build a deck without duplicates and play this to get them anyway. Hard to rate this card without knowing the rest of the set.

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  • WhiteLiger's Avatar
    145 16 Posts Joined 04/03/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago

    To me the powerful part of this card is being able to duplicate legendaries which druid does have a fair bit of strong ones. I have been getting rank 5 plus each season with a Lucentbark already and I really like her for that deck for duping lucentbark and floop against control shaman and priest. It sucks to lose some of the healing but you can still run multiples of those and just hope they aren't on the bottom of your deck. Also her combo potential is through the roof.

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  • Synnr7's Avatar
    1030 605 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago
    Quote From DoubleSummon

    Seems not worth to me.. if you want duplicates of stuff why run a highlander deck?

     

    I think you are looking at this backwards.

    In a highlander pay off deck aren't there cards you want two of? 

    When I build highlander decks I often run Zola the Gorgon or Baleful Banker or the like to get multiple Reno Jackson or Kazakus (for Kabal classes) minions into my hand/deck. So This I can see this card being quite useful. However this card is less of a build around than Reno. This is a card you definitely add to your Reno deck but I don't see decks being built as highlander just for this. I'd want to see another strong build around card, hopefully in neutral, to bring all these cards together in standard.

    All that said I do love this card. Simple design with a fun effect.

    Casual Dragon Cardgame enthusiast. 

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  • iWatchUSleep's Avatar
    1095 819 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago
    Quote From Eddetektor

    People seem to forget, that a deck with duplicates can still include this card. Just all of them need to be drawn before she is played.

    There are some crazy combos to be made with it:

    Aviana + Kun the Forgotten King + Elise the Enlightened + 2xMalygosGloop Sprayer gives +20 spellpower (doable already with Faceless Manipulator) and doubles all the spells on top of that.

    Except that you're just making any Aviana, Kun the Forgotten King combo significantly worse by adding in Elise the Enlightened. You can't draw her off Juicy Psychmelon and you're adding way more cards than necessary for a game winning combo.

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  • Wailor's Avatar
    Design Champion 560 617 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 years, 6 months ago
    Quote From kaladin
    Quote From AnAngryBadger
    Quote From kaladin

    I'm not sure.  It does allow you to play three Chef Nomis, which may be a win con.  I like the continuity of Elise always being a 5-mana 5/5. 

    Elise was originally a 4 mana 3/5

    Oops.  

    To be fair, she was a 5/5 in Un'goro.

    I guess she won some muscle when she was in the crater and hasn't lost it :)

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