Meta Predictions?

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  • HuntardHuntard's Avatar Mailbox Dancer 665 470 Posts Joined 12/03/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    Just curious to hear some opinions. Mine are:

    Token DH will not be good. Instead, a token package will be run in DH similar to the "discard" package Warlock is running now in standard.

    Pirate Warrior will stay meta.

    Mage and Shaman will not have a place in the meta.

    Your face is already dead

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  • PopeNeia's Avatar Darkmaster 570 771 Posts Joined 07/06/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    I feel it’s going to be an absolute shitshow, but that’s just my perspective as someone who’s been really jaded by the Stormwind meta

    This ain't no place for a hero

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  • HuntardHuntard's Avatar Mailbox Dancer 665 470 Posts Joined 12/03/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    I feel like I did not need to read your comment to know what you were going to say

    Your face is already dead

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  • dapperdog's Avatar Dragon Scholar 1485 3308 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    On the top end: Mozaki mage, token/midrange dhunter, doomhammer shaman, quest handlock, secret hunter, ramp druid, secret rogue, libram pally

    Unsure, but probably good decks: beast druid, zoo/egglock, aggro pirate warrior, control priest, elemental shaman, inner fire priest (for the lack of a better name. Bless priest doesn't cut it for me)

     

    Quest warrior is good, but I honestly always thought it as a middling deck, easy to figure out and play around. There are plenty of times where I wonder whether its actually better to not play quest and just play plain aggro warrior. Now with some end game like Rokara, the Valorous and Captain Galvangar, is there any reason to play quest?

    Big spell mage has all the potential in the world, but just about every combo deck will destroy this thing and Im not necessarily convinced it has enough defenses to power through any deck with a burn plan. But I may be wrong. After all, team5 is pushing this hard, and Im fairly certain they playtested this one.

    Speaking of combo decks. The hero cards are nice, but lifesteal dhunter is still fairly good in the right hands and mozaki mage just got a massive boost in the form of Siphon Mana. Will this all eclipse this expansion? Perhaps. But Lightforged Cariel being one of the flasher heroes means its likely going to be somewhat a struggle, though Im sure legend players would relish the challenge.

    Doomhammer and elemental shaman looks kinda dangerous. With Windchill being a much needed draw option and Snowball Fight! being needed stall, as well as the late game value of Bru'kan of the Elements, I wouldn't count them out completely. And if the meta turns slow, then maybe we'll start seeing that ysharaaj-bolner end game.

    The one class Im most interested in seeing is how priest will be doing. Got lots of good cards this time round.

    See you guys in the next expansion.

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  • linkblade91's Avatar Global Moderator Lissandra 1465 1698 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    My Freeze Galakrond Shaman theorycraft will be a Tier 1 deck, because...I wish it so? It'll be a true Christmas miracle!

    ...I just want it to be fun. Please be more than a meme.

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  • PopeNeia's Avatar Darkmaster 570 771 Posts Joined 07/06/2019
    Posted 1 week, 4 days ago
    Quote From HuntardHuntard

    I feel like I did not need to read your comment to know what you were going to say

    Aww c’mon, you know I’m right ;

    This ain't no place for a hero

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar Skeleton 1680 3573 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 1 week, 4 days ago

    Druid will be tier 1 if the Pride Seeker + Celestial Alignment interaaaction works like it should. It'll be nerfed within a week.

    Outside of that I could see Beast Druid working out and possibly overshadow Taunt Aggro.

    Token DH could very well work depending on what else is meta. Big Demons won't unless the deck gets bufs to key cards.

    Big Spell Mage could work but looks very confusing to build and I have no idea how to properly do it.

    Frost Shaman could unironically work, but the fact that only 2 of the Frost spells are reasonable inclusions makes Gla'shear a bit of a difficult win condition to activate (I'm personally convinced that as long as you can reasonably build around Multicaster any Shaman deck has a future).

    Hunter is ...weird? Secret Hunter has all the shell but no core. Currently no point in running it over Face Hunter unless abusing Petting Zoo becomes consistent enough. Big Beasts is probably a meme but Ram enables mana cheating so I wouldn't rule it out entirely.

    Don't know what Paladin is doing but I doubt Big Paladin will ever be a thing without a dedicated legendary.

    Deathrattle Priest is probably too slow for now. Tempo Priest looks confusing but has potential. turn 2 6/6 is no joke.

    Rogue does Rogue things. Burgle Rogue would be good if there was an actual win condition. I doubt you can fuse BUrgle with Quest but it would be an interesting idea because the payoff cards are actually strong.

    Warlock will keep doing Quest things until Flesh Giant and Raise Dead rotate entirely. I guess it's one more year of this shit. I'm gonna try to do Big Demon Handlock because there'S technically enough support for it but I doubt it goes anywhere. Egg Zoolock should be a thing in some capacity. It sounds too good not to be.

    Warrior will keep playing pirates and experimenting with Control. Depending on how board focussed the meta is Control Warrior can reasonably exist. Possibility for Galvangar OTK exists.

    Honestly, the meta won't feel too different from what it is now (which is good because we have lots of different meta decks atm) but there's still possibilities for shakeups. I'm also pretty sure that if the present OTK decks persist they will be dealt with eventually (at least the ones that don't die post rotation such as Garotte Rogue and Celestial Druid)

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • Brandon's Avatar Old God Fanatic 1015 1416 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 week, 4 days ago

    Really excited for the new cards, but i dont feel like too much will change. A lot of meta decks will remain good, as most classes mainly got late game stuff but not too much "survival" tools for early game. And even if the meta slows down, all the game ending OTK (questline) decks will force out a hyper aggro meta again. Of course there will be a few control decks: BIG warrior was already good, so i think it will still see play and Questline control warrior will probably still see play. But most of the meta will remain the same, however you will face of against a newer archetype every so often. People like playing new stuff, and their favorite decks. No matter how good/bad it is, just look at how popular Elwynn Boar decks still are, despite the bad winrate.

    But i still feel like 1 decks might have game breaking potential: Celestial Alignment druid could be tier 1, and super obnoxious to play against... IF Pride Seekers battlecry works on Nourish AFTER you play Celestial Alignment. Because that could remove Celestial Alignments "drawback" and allow them to instantly pop off with Lady Anacondra plays on the same turn. IF this is the case, then it will be nerfed quickly because "mean cards" like Celestial Alignment have almost always been nerfed if they become too problematic and popular. If this interaction does not work, then meh just aggro as always with a side of OTK and the rare control deck..

    I REALLY hope i'm wrong and we get a very fun meta, where the fun is for everyone and not for only 1/2 players each game. BUT we do still have the stormwind set in standard AND only next expansion will Ashes, Scholomance and darkmoon rotate. I'm personally a lot more hopeful of the meta after rotation, because ashes, Scholomance and Darkmoon have been really strong sets, with lots of key cards for currently powerfull archetypes.

    RNG is only fun as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something really good or trash level of bad. If RNG always results in something good, then it's not fun.

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  • Jajanken's Avatar Charmander 110 13 Posts Joined 11/26/2021
    Posted 1 week, 4 days ago

    Haven't looked at the cards much but Paladin looks broken.

     

    Irondeep Trogg looks like a sleeper op card.

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