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  • KANSAS's Avatar Wall 615 1002 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 1 month ago
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    I am 100% with you on this.

    The only times I ever rope are:

    1) If I get roped first, almost always on Turn 1 - that tends to get people to knock it off.

    2) If I'm playing in Casual and come up against someone playing Tier 1 netdecks to gold farm those of us playing memes (as just happened with 6 Secret Highlander Paladins in a row this morning). As soon as I see what you are I rope every. single. turn. You want that easy win? Sure, but I'm going to suck up as much of your time as I possibly can. The more time you're stuck with me, the less time you can bother other people and I can just as easily read the news while I wait for my timer to burn down each turn. 

    Fundamentally, my philosophy is the same as that of 2nd century Chinese warrior-sage Zhuge Liang: "If you don't give a damn, we don't give a fuck (Hey!) Don't start no shit, it won't be no shit!" Truly a wise, wise man.  

    Might just be me, but wasting other people’s time because they’re playing a deck you don’t like doesn’t seem heroic or considerate. It’s just being a dick

    Being a gold farmer in Casual is also being a dick. Give shitty, get shitty. 

    No it isn’t. Playing Casual doesn’t mean you have the right to punish the opponent for playing a deck that is unfun to you.

    That's some fairly contradictory logic their friendo.

    If YOU have the right to be a dick and play tier 1 decks to goldfarm those of us trying to meme it up (which you do - the game obviously doesn't stop you), then I have the right to ALSO be a dick and rope you for it (which I do - the game obviously doesn't stop me).

    Fundamentally it's not about "unfun" - I personally don't find hyper aggro decks "fun" to play against, but I would NOT rope you for playing aggro Warrior or Zoolock since they're lower tier 2/upper tier 3 decks - the exact kind of deck CASUAL should be for. If you want to play Tier 1 decks, more power to you but stop being a little bitch and go play them on the ladder where they belong rather than wasting my time trying to farm gold off me and my garbage-tier meme decks.

    I get it - you like to gold farm and want to self-justify why you're not as asshole. Go off then my dude, but recognize that other people disagree with you, and since the game only gives me one way to communicate that I think what you're doing hurts the overall game state (roping), you can bet I'm going to continue to do it.

    Just because someone is annoying you doesn't give you the right to annoy them back. Two wrongs don't make a right. Revenge doesn't make people happy. Love your enemies. How is it that half the people on this thread don't get that? 

    Also, playing tier one decks on casual isn't a crime. Maybe you haven't considered this, but some people enjoy playing tier one decks not because they are super competitive and only care about winning, but because they think the deck is fun to play. People are allowed to play whatever they want in whatever way they want. And if that bothers you so much, then you can either suck it up and just play against them, or, if you really don't want to fight against a deck simply because its good, then you can concede and move on to the next match. It is not for you to decide what your opponent is allowed to have fun playing, and roping them doesn't help solve the problem.

     

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  • Ethardoth's Avatar Pikachu 120 108 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
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    I am 100% with you on this.

    The only times I ever rope are:

    1) If I get roped first, almost always on Turn 1 - that tends to get people to knock it off.

    2) If I'm playing in Casual and come up against someone playing Tier 1 netdecks to gold farm those of us playing memes (as just happened with 6 Secret Highlander Paladins in a row this morning). As soon as I see what you are I rope every. single. turn. You want that easy win? Sure, but I'm going to suck up as much of your time as I possibly can. The more time you're stuck with me, the less time you can bother other people and I can just as easily read the news while I wait for my timer to burn down each turn. 

    Fundamentally, my philosophy is the same as that of 2nd century Chinese warrior-sage Zhuge Liang: "If you don't give a damn, we don't give a fuck (Hey!) Don't start no shit, it won't be no shit!" Truly a wise, wise man.  

    Might just be me, but wasting other people’s time because they’re playing a deck you don’t like doesn’t seem heroic or considerate. It’s just being a dick

    Being a gold farmer in Casual is also being a dick. Give shitty, get shitty. 

    Not everybody is a gold farmer. Maybe they are practicing before they jump into ladder, need a fast win for a quest because they don't have time, or don't care about ladder and find that deck fun to play like you find your meme deck fun. And besides, testing meme decks against meta decks should also be part of deckbuilding, then you can tweak it and maybe come up with something new that can actually compete.

    While some of those are fair, quite simply I can't read someone's mind to ascertain their intentions. So by the time I've faced 6 Highlander Secret Paladins IN A ROW (as happened to me on Monday) any chance that I might assume good intentions has long since left me since the statistical  likelihood that NONE of them are goldfarmers is right about 0.00001%

    I would however return to my general argument: people need to remember that there is someone else on the other side of that game board also trying to have fun. You want to "practice" with a tier 1 deck - fine, hit a rank floor on the ladder and practice there. Or just, you know, remember that it's just a game and if you don't make X rank this month because you lost a few games on the ladder the world isn't going to fall apart.

    Okay, I get your point. Well, the Casual is still casual, everybody plays what they want. I think you got unlucky with your Highlander Pala streak, but if that deck bothers you that much, you could just concede to Paladin every time and just move on, saving your nerves. Eventually you will get lower tier decks to play against. Or you could invite some friends and play against them with your own rules. If you want, you could add me as well, I would enjoy an occasional friendly.

    I can talk from my perspective, I also sometimes enter Casual (in Wild usually) with some strong deck to pass quest only, but the number of times I get in with a thrash quest deck and concede is far bigger. I usually play with friends when I want to meme.

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  • ArngrimUndying's Avatar Jaina 350 324 Posts Joined 06/11/2019
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    I am 100% with you on this.

    The only times I ever rope are:

    1) If I get roped first, almost always on Turn 1 - that tends to get people to knock it off.

    2) If I'm playing in Casual and come up against someone playing Tier 1 netdecks to gold farm those of us playing memes (as just happened with 6 Secret Highlander Paladins in a row this morning). As soon as I see what you are I rope every. single. turn. You want that easy win? Sure, but I'm going to suck up as much of your time as I possibly can. The more time you're stuck with me, the less time you can bother other people and I can just as easily read the news while I wait for my timer to burn down each turn. 

    Fundamentally, my philosophy is the same as that of 2nd century Chinese warrior-sage Zhuge Liang: "If you don't give a damn, we don't give a fuck (Hey!) Don't start no shit, it won't be no shit!" Truly a wise, wise man.  

    Might just be me, but wasting other people’s time because they’re playing a deck you don’t like doesn’t seem heroic or considerate. It’s just being a dick

    Being a gold farmer in Casual is also being a dick. Give shitty, get shitty. 

    No it isn’t. Playing Casual doesn’t mean you have the right to punish the opponent for playing a deck that is unfun to you.

    That's some fairly contradictory logic their friendo.

    If YOU have the right to be a dick and play tier 1 decks to goldfarm those of us trying to meme it up (which you do - the game obviously doesn't stop you), then I have the right to ALSO be a dick and rope you for it (which I do - the game obviously doesn't stop me).

    Fundamentally it's not about "unfun" - I personally don't find hyper aggro decks "fun" to play against, but I would NOT rope you for playing aggro Warrior or Zoolock since they're lower tier 2/upper tier 3 decks - the exact kind of deck CASUAL should be for. If you want to play Tier 1 decks, more power to you but stop being a little bitch and go play them on the ladder where they belong rather than wasting my time trying to farm gold off me and my garbage-tier meme decks.

    I get it - you like to gold farm and want to self-justify why you're not as asshole. Go off then my dude, but recognize that other people disagree with you, and since the game only gives me one way to communicate that I think what you're doing hurts the overall game state (roping), you can bet I'm going to continue to do it.

    Just because someone is annoying you doesn't give you the right to annoy them back. Two wrongs don't make a right. Revenge doesn't make people happy. Love your enemies. How is it that half the people on this thread don't get that? 

    Also, playing tier one decks on casual isn't a crime. Maybe you haven't considered this, but some people enjoy playing tier one decks not because they are super competitive and only care about winning, but because they think the deck is fun to play. People are allowed to play whatever they want in whatever way they want. And if that bothers you so much, then you can either suck it up and just play against them, or, if you really don't want to fight against a deck simply because its good, then you can concede and move on to the next match. It is not for you to decide what your opponent is allowed to have fun playing, and roping them doesn't help solve the problem.

     

    I really don't get how people are misunderstanding me on this point.

    YES, you ABSOLUTELY have the ability to play what/how you want. I am not saying you should be drug out into the street and beaten for doing this, or spawn camping in a FPS, or cheesing out a win in some fighting game. !!!BUT!!! so do I. And when "how you want to play" and "how I want to play" are in direct opposition to one another, the argument that "well you should let people be dicks or concede and give them a free win" sorry doesn't hold water with me.

    You are 100% correct that roping doesn't solve any problem, but since Blizzard has shown absolutely 0 interest in addressing this I'm going to do what I think is right/fair. To take your exact argument: if you don't like me roping you for playing Tier 1 in Casual, you're free to concede to me and move on to someone else.

     

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  • KANSAS's Avatar Wall 615 1002 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 1 month ago
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    I really don't get how people are misunderstanding me on this point.

    YES, you ABSOLUTELY have the ability to play what/how you want. I am not saying you should be drug out into the street and beaten for doing this, or spawn camping in a FPS, or cheesing out a win in some fighting game. !!!BUT!!! so do I. And when "how you want to play" and "how I want to play" are in direct opposition to one another, the argument that "well you should let people be dicks or concede and give them a free win" sorry doesn't hold water with me.

    You are 100% correct that roping doesn't solve any problem, but since Blizzard has shown absolutely 0 interest in addressing this I'm going to do what I think is right/fair. To take your exact argument: if you don't like me roping you for playing Tier 1 in Casual, you're free to concede to me and move on to someone else.

     

    The thing is, they are not playing a tier one deck simply to annoy you, they are doing it for a reason. You are roping them because they are annoying you and you want to annoy them back, this does not seem like a very mature thing, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone. Maybe they are being selfish by farming gold on casual, but at least someone is gaining something from this, whereas you are just being annoying for the sake of being annoying. You are right that it is within your power to rope them if you want to, but just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't justify doing it. 

    You just admitted that roping doesn't solve any problem, all you have said to justify roping them is that you think it is right/fair. It is not right to ruin someones day just because they ruined yours, and maybe it is 'fair' to hit someone back when they hit you, but it isn't nice, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone.

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  • ArngrimUndying's Avatar Jaina 350 324 Posts Joined 06/11/2019
    Posted 1 month ago
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    I really don't get how people are misunderstanding me on this point.

    YES, you ABSOLUTELY have the ability to play what/how you want. I am not saying you should be drug out into the street and beaten for doing this, or spawn camping in a FPS, or cheesing out a win in some fighting game. !!!BUT!!! so do I. And when "how you want to play" and "how I want to play" are in direct opposition to one another, the argument that "well you should let people be dicks or concede and give them a free win" sorry doesn't hold water with me.

    You are 100% correct that roping doesn't solve any problem, but since Blizzard has shown absolutely 0 interest in addressing this I'm going to do what I think is right/fair. To take your exact argument: if you don't like me roping you for playing Tier 1 in Casual, you're free to concede to me and move on to someone else.

     

    The thing is, they are not playing a tier one deck simply to annoy you, they are doing it for a reason. You are roping them because they are annoying you and you want to annoy them back, this does not seem like a very mature thing, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone. Maybe they are being selfish by farming gold on casual, but at least someone is gaining something from this, whereas you are just being annoying for the sake of being annoying. You are right that it is within your power to rope them if you want to, but just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't justify doing it. 

    You just admitted that roping doesn't solve any problem, all you have said to justify roping them is that you think it is right/fair. It is not right to ruin someones day just because they ruined yours, and maybe it is 'fair' to hit someone back when they hit you, but it isn't nice, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone.

    Let's remember that we're talking about a free video game played for entertainment purposes. There's no "reason" behind anything here and no one is "gaining" anything - it's not a job & it fundamentally doesn't matter at all what happens.

    Also: ."..just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't justify doing it". And once again we return to the exact same circular argument. Just because they have the freedom to play tier 1 metadecks in Casual doesn't justify them doing it if it actively ruins someone else's good time. I accept that I'm being a dick to them by roping them; why is it so damn hard for them to accept they're being a dick by gold farming (or whatever reason they have).

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  • KANSAS's Avatar Wall 615 1002 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
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    I really don't get how people are misunderstanding me on this point.

    YES, you ABSOLUTELY have the ability to play what/how you want. I am not saying you should be drug out into the street and beaten for doing this, or spawn camping in a FPS, or cheesing out a win in some fighting game. !!!BUT!!! so do I. And when "how you want to play" and "how I want to play" are in direct opposition to one another, the argument that "well you should let people be dicks or concede and give them a free win" sorry doesn't hold water with me.

    You are 100% correct that roping doesn't solve any problem, but since Blizzard has shown absolutely 0 interest in addressing this I'm going to do what I think is right/fair. To take your exact argument: if you don't like me roping you for playing Tier 1 in Casual, you're free to concede to me and move on to someone else.

     

    The thing is, they are not playing a tier one deck simply to annoy you, they are doing it for a reason. You are roping them because they are annoying you and you want to annoy them back, this does not seem like a very mature thing, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone. Maybe they are being selfish by farming gold on casual, but at least someone is gaining something from this, whereas you are just being annoying for the sake of being annoying. You are right that it is within your power to rope them if you want to, but just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't justify doing it. 

    You just admitted that roping doesn't solve any problem, all you have said to justify roping them is that you think it is right/fair. It is not right to ruin someones day just because they ruined yours, and maybe it is 'fair' to hit someone back when they hit you, but it isn't nice, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone.

    Let's remember that we're talking about a free video game played for entertainment purposes. There's no "reason" behind anything here and no one is "gaining" anything - it's not a job & it fundamentally doesn't matter at all what happens.

    Also: ."..just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't justify doing it". And once again we return to the exact same circular argument. Just because they have the freedom to play tier 1 metadecks in Casual doesn't justify them doing it if it actively ruins someone else's good time. I accept that I'm being a dick to them by roping them; why is it so damn hard for them to accept they're being a dick by gold farming (or whatever reason they have).

    You are so hypocritical. You are admitting that what you are doing is wrong, and you admit that it doesn't solve any issue, but you still do it. 

    The only reason you are roping your opponent is because you don't like the deck they are playing, and you think roping them is okay because your opponent thinks playing a tier one deck in casual is okay. But my point still stands, they are playing a T-1 deck in casual for some reason that benefits them, you are roping them only because you are salty that you can't win with a T-4 meme deck. Just because your opponent is annoying you doesn't mean you are doing a good thing by annoying them back.

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  • ArngrimUndying's Avatar Jaina 350 324 Posts Joined 06/11/2019
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    I really don't get how people are misunderstanding me on this point.

    YES, you ABSOLUTELY have the ability to play what/how you want. I am not saying you should be drug out into the street and beaten for doing this, or spawn camping in a FPS, or cheesing out a win in some fighting game. !!!BUT!!! so do I. And when "how you want to play" and "how I want to play" are in direct opposition to one another, the argument that "well you should let people be dicks or concede and give them a free win" sorry doesn't hold water with me.

    You are 100% correct that roping doesn't solve any problem, but since Blizzard has shown absolutely 0 interest in addressing this I'm going to do what I think is right/fair. To take your exact argument: if you don't like me roping you for playing Tier 1 in Casual, you're free to concede to me and move on to someone else.

     

    The thing is, they are not playing a tier one deck simply to annoy you, they are doing it for a reason. You are roping them because they are annoying you and you want to annoy them back, this does not seem like a very mature thing, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone. Maybe they are being selfish by farming gold on casual, but at least someone is gaining something from this, whereas you are just being annoying for the sake of being annoying. You are right that it is within your power to rope them if you want to, but just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't justify doing it. 

    You just admitted that roping doesn't solve any problem, all you have said to justify roping them is that you think it is right/fair. It is not right to ruin someones day just because they ruined yours, and maybe it is 'fair' to hit someone back when they hit you, but it isn't nice, and it doesn't do anything good for anyone.

    Let's remember that we're talking about a free video game played for entertainment purposes. There's no "reason" behind anything here and no one is "gaining" anything - it's not a job & it fundamentally doesn't matter at all what happens.

    Also: ."..just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't justify doing it". And once again we return to the exact same circular argument. Just because they have the freedom to play tier 1 metadecks in Casual doesn't justify them doing it if it actively ruins someone else's good time. I accept that I'm being a dick to them by roping them; why is it so damn hard for them to accept they're being a dick by gold farming (or whatever reason they have).

    You are so hypocritical. You are admitting that what you are doing is wrong, and you admit that it doesn't solve any issue, but you still do it. 

    The only reason you are roping your opponent is because you don't like the deck they are playing, and you think roping them is okay because your opponent thinks playing a tier one deck in casual is okay. But my point still stands, they are playing a T-1 deck in casual for some reason that benefits them, you are roping them only because you are salty that you can't win with a T-4 meme deck. Just because your opponent is annoying you doesn't mean you are doing a good thing by annoying them back.

    Well my roping "benefits" me in that it makes me feel better and enjoy my game more, which is as much "benefit" as someone else might get from gold farming. And it "solves the issue" of me not being able to communicate to this person that I think they're an ass.

    What's hypocritical is to say that everyone else gets to be a dick, but not me. I have to sit here and say "oh thanks for wasting my time by playing your T1 deck I can't possible beat with my goofy T5 deck. Here let me make it easy for you and concede and give you exactly what you want and thank you sir may I have another?" Not buying it. You want to turn the other cheek, be my guest. But until either 1) Blizzard gives a place to exclusive play nonsense meme decks, or 2) people stop bringing ladder decks into the one place that ideally should be free of them, I'm going to continue to tell people who are actively ruining my good time that I can do the same.

    Here's a fun idea: No gold rewards for Casual. Period. Bet you wouldn't see too many T1 decks then, huh?

     

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  • Ethardoth's Avatar Pikachu 120 108 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 month ago

    I like to see Casual not as "meme only", but as "no stress" mode. Since you have nothing to lose at all. No one should feel guilty playing any deck, every person has its own view on entertainment and fun. 

    I would also recommend trying Wild if you can, casual or ranked, as there is much more potential and freedom for experimenting. You should face homebrew/modified decks fairly often. 

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  • AliRadicali's Avatar 395 622 Posts Joined 06/06/2019
    Posted 1 month ago

    In my experience reciprocal roping doesn't stop the other guy from doing it; at that point it's become a game of chicken and the BM-er doesn't want to be the first one to nope out.

     

    Whether or not it has a deterrent effect after-the fact isn't something you can determine with the limited information you have as a player. Who knows, maybe blizzard has data on on it. Intuitively, I'd assume that players who get roped right back are less likely to do the same in the next game, but who knows? We're basically trying to find a logic in behaviour that's irrational to begin with, so it'd be stupid to suggest that anything without hard data backing it is more than speculation.

     

    That said, I think it's perfectly justified to respond in kind, and I've done so myself several times.                       

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  • DestroyerR's Avatar 125 96 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 1 month ago
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    Well my roping "benefits" me in that it makes me feel better and enjoy my game more, which is as much "benefit" as someone else might get from gold farming. And it "solves the issue" of me not being able to communicate to this person that I think they're an ass.

    What's hypocritical is to say that everyone else gets to be a dick, but not me. I have to sit here and say "oh thanks for wasting my time by playing your T1 deck I can't possible beat with my goofy T5 deck. Here let me make it easy for you and concede and give you exactly what you want and thank you sir may I have another?" Not buying it. You want to turn the other cheek, be my guest. But until either 1) Blizzard gives a place to exclusive play nonsense meme decks, or 2) people stop bringing ladder decks into the one place that ideally should be free of them, I'm going to continue to tell people who are actively ruining my good time that I can do the same.

    Here's a fun idea: No gold rewards for Casual. Period. Bet you wouldn't see too many T1 decks then, huh?

     

    1. The thing is, it’s not for you to decide what decks belong in each format. What would happen if someone with your logic decided that [insert your wacky T5 deck here] is cancerous and unfun to play against, decided you’re a dick for playing it and roped you for no reason other than that? That’s basically what you’re doing to those people bringing T1 decks. Every person has their idea of fun and annoying, you don’t have any special authority that allows you to equate playing certain decks with something objectively dickish, like roping.

     

    2. The fact you feel better and enjoy your game more by getting a petty revenge on people you think were being annoying instead of being mature and moving on isn’t worthy of praise.

     

    You can clearly see most people here agree with me. You can either see that as a sign you may be on the wrong after all, or ignore it. I couldn’t care less.

    When you stop to think about it, Reno Jackson’s effect doesn’t make a lot of sense thematically. Why would “getting rich” heal your hero to full? It’s almost like that effect is saying that Reno is connected to other cards with that effect... like, oh I don’t know, NOZARI THE BRONZE DRAGON? Reno = Bronze Dragon 100% confirmed

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  • ArngrimUndying's Avatar Jaina 350 324 Posts Joined 06/11/2019
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    Well my roping "benefits" me in that it makes me feel better and enjoy my game more, which is as much "benefit" as someone else might get from gold farming. And it "solves the issue" of me not being able to communicate to this person that I think they're an ass.

    What's hypocritical is to say that everyone else gets to be a dick, but not me. I have to sit here and say "oh thanks for wasting my time by playing your T1 deck I can't possible beat with my goofy T5 deck. Here let me make it easy for you and concede and give you exactly what you want and thank you sir may I have another?" Not buying it. You want to turn the other cheek, be my guest. But until either 1) Blizzard gives a place to exclusive play nonsense meme decks, or 2) people stop bringing ladder decks into the one place that ideally should be free of them, I'm going to continue to tell people who are actively ruining my good time that I can do the same.

    Here's a fun idea: No gold rewards for Casual. Period. Bet you wouldn't see too many T1 decks then, huh?

     

    1. The thing is, it’s not for you to decide what decks belong in each format. What would happen if someone with your logic decided that [insert your wacky T5 deck here] is cancerous and unfun to play against, decided you’re a dick for playing it and roped you for no reason other than that? That’s basically what you’re doing to those people bringing T1 decks. Every person has their idea of fun and annoying, you don’t have any special authority that allows you to equate playing certain decks with something objectively dickish, like roping.

     

    2. The fact you feel better and enjoy your game more by getting a petty revenge on people you think were being annoying instead of being mature and moving on isn’t worthy of praise.

     

    You can clearly see most people here agree with me. You can either see that as a sign you may be on the wrong after all, or ignore it. I couldn’t care less.

    1. You're correct that I cannot decide what goes where - only Blizzard can. I, however, can decide how I react to what I encounter just like everyone else. If Blizzard thought me roping someone every turn was inappropriate, then they could stop that as well (idk rope 5 turns in a row and you forfeit?). But they don't do that either. So it's up to each and every player to decide what and how they want to play. I'll do me; you do you.

    2. Also not praiseworthy is taking some BS moral high ground where you declare what you choose to do is Right and Good and Fine and what I do is Bad and Wrong. In a video game. That's free. 

    3. Always funny to see people who reply to you what 3 or 4 times now suddenly "couldn't care less." But yeah between that and the ad populum fallacy of what maybe a dozen people on this thread think, you sure showed me!

    4. Interesting that all the people condemning me haven't bothered to respond to my suggestion about making Casual have no gold rewards. If you wouldn't play a mode without some sort of reward, then you're acknowledging that you're - at least in part if not entirely - doing it FOR the rewards. And that's my point: your rewards shouldn't come at the expense of others.

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  • Lemushki's Avatar HearthStationeer 230 89 Posts Joined 03/22/2019
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    "I made the world a better place."

    Did you though?

    Just hearthstone and in some minor way lol. Would love to have that big of an influence or resources to do so though

    Lemushki - The one and only since 2006

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  • cuekillar's Avatar 80 30 Posts Joined 04/01/2019
    Posted 1 month ago

    I only rope when I'm having a brain fart as I'm not that smart, but otherwise I play really fast. It doesn't bother me if my opponent ropes every turn or not, I'm not going to drop down to that level of play. Also thanks to the guys who concede at rank 5, I actually just got to rank 5 by someone giving me their win :D I've never hit legendary yet and I've been playing from beta but I always try just this months been really busy and nearly didn't get to 5 this time D:

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  • KnivesOut's Avatar 65 23 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 1 month ago

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    How long can this go on?

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    Posted 1 month ago
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    Thank god this HS roping issue will end in 2020. It really is annoying 

    How?  I looked around and I didn't see anything posted by Blizzard about roping.

     

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  • Ethardoth's Avatar Pikachu 120 108 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 month ago
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    Well my roping "benefits" me in that it makes me feel better and enjoy my game more, which is as much "benefit" as someone else might get from gold farming. And it "solves the issue" of me not being able to communicate to this person that I think they're an ass.

    What's hypocritical is to say that everyone else gets to be a dick, but not me. I have to sit here and say "oh thanks for wasting my time by playing your T1 deck I can't possible beat with my goofy T5 deck. Here let me make it easy for you and concede and give you exactly what you want and thank you sir may I have another?" Not buying it. You want to turn the other cheek, be my guest. But until either 1) Blizzard gives a place to exclusive play nonsense meme decks, or 2) people stop bringing ladder decks into the one place that ideally should be free of them, I'm going to continue to tell people who are actively ruining my good time that I can do the same.

    Here's a fun idea: No gold rewards for Casual. Period. Bet you wouldn't see too many T1 decks then, huh?

     

    1. The thing is, it’s not for you to decide what decks belong in each format. What would happen if someone with your logic decided that [insert your wacky T5 deck here] is cancerous and unfun to play against, decided you’re a dick for playing it and roped you for no reason other than that? That’s basically what you’re doing to those people bringing T1 decks. Every person has their idea of fun and annoying, you don’t have any special authority that allows you to equate playing certain decks with something objectively dickish, like roping.

     

    2. The fact you feel better and enjoy your game more by getting a petty revenge on people you think were being annoying instead of being mature and moving on isn’t worthy of praise.

     

    You can clearly see most people here agree with me. You can either see that as a sign you may be on the wrong after all, or ignore it. I couldn’t care less.

    1. You're correct that I cannot decide what goes where - only Blizzard can. I, however, can decide how I react to what I encounter just like everyone else. If Blizzard thought me roping someone every turn was inappropriate, then they could stop that as well (idk rope 5 turns in a row and you forfeit?). But they don't do that either. So it's up to each and every player to decide what and how they want to play. I'll do me; you do you.

    2. Also not praiseworthy is taking some BS moral high ground where you declare what you choose to do is Right and Good and Fine and what I do is Bad and Wrong. In a video game. That's free. 

    3. Always funny to see people who reply to you what 3 or 4 times now suddenly "couldn't care less." But yeah between that and the ad populum fallacy of what maybe a dozen people on this thread think, you sure showed me!

    4. Interesting that all the people condemning me haven't bothered to respond to my suggestion about making Casual have no gold rewards. If you wouldn't play a mode without some sort of reward, then you're acknowledging that you're - at least in part if not entirely - doing it FOR the rewards. And that's my point: your rewards shouldn't come at the expense of others.

    Honestly, I think that you overestimate the number of people who are "farming" ( I assume you think about 10g per 3 win). Most people who have the means to do it (t1 decks) probably have large enough collection and gold/dust bank by now that it would be really inefficient way of earning gold for them. Have in mind that if you face that number of good decks, they are facing them too, so it doesn't make much sense to farm there if it is not much easier than low-tier ranked (where you also get gold portrait counts). So I think they are there mostly for other reasons, and would stay there even without rewards for winning.

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  • Marega's Avatar 230 226 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 1 month ago

    im sorry that u wasted ur time on that. i meant it as a joke cause Runeterra is coming up strong.

    I believe Magic Arena has some sort of mechanism to fight ropers. like they can only rope 3 times in a match or something and after it their turns are reduced in time. No sure, as i dont see ppl abusing the timer in Magic as they do in HS

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