My wish for weekly quests

  • FortyDust's Avatar Nightfall 600 830 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 5 days, 10 hours ago

    We know there are many changes in store for the reward system as the year rotates. The one thing I want more than any other change is this:

    The ability to opt out of weekly quests for different game modes.

    I don't want to deprive anyone of such quests if they enjoy them, but it's supremely annoying that I have to reroll a weekly quest several times before I get one that involves the primary game mode. More than once this has left me with just three or four days to complete a quest that I would normally have the whole week to work on.

    Coercion is not the best way to get people to like something.

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  • Fedrion's Avatar Goblin 1050 285 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 4 days, 21 hours ago

    Yes! And no!

    I would really like the idea of being able to opt out and reroll ALL quests.

    I play every single game mode, I don't have a focus, I just play whatever I feel like playing (yeah... even Duels, though not ranked), except Arena.

    And while I complete all my daily/weekly quests the moment I get them, I sometimes feel robbed of my time when I have to go Ranked... The main quest, the unrollable quest, should be "play 7 games" period, not "WIN 5 games of RANKED", it's like, forced to play the "main" mode blizzard wants, not the "main" mode the player wants.

    So, yeah, you should be able to reroll/opt out of EVERY quest slot.

    Let's say that at least, you can reroll them.

    Papa Nurgle wants to share his gifts.

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  • FortyDust's Avatar Nightfall 600 830 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 days, 20 hours ago

    I definitely agree. That locked-in quest has always seemed weird to me. No one should be forced to play any particular game mode to get weekly quest XP.

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  • KANSAS's Avatar Old God Fanatic 1635 2520 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 4 days, 19 hours ago

    I think it is fine that some of the quests want you to play a specific mode. You get 3 quests and 7 chances to re-roll them, which makes it very easy to avoid doing any quests you don't want. It is difficult to reward players for playing a specific mode without also forcing everyone to play that mode to optimize their rewards, but I think the devs did a good job. There are only 3 quests that want you to play a mode other than regular constructed out of 10 quests total. And with one of your 3 quests always being the same, you should be able to easily avoid having to play other modes. 

    I do agree though that the "win 5 games in ranked" quest is stupid. It makes sense having a quest that wants you to play ranked, and since you have all week I don't mind that you have to win, but it makes no sense whatsoever that this appears every week and can't be skipped. Again, it is fine that certain quests want you to play a specific mode. And as long as you can skip them it is no big deal. But this quest forces you not just to play ranked, but to win. Meaning that the average player will have to put 10 games a week playing a mode they may not like.

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • h0lysatan's Avatar Heartbreaker 655 309 Posts Joined 12/03/2019
    Posted 4 days, 6 hours ago

    While I agree that all quest should be able to be reroll, I wonder if there's gonna be any use for the 4th slot in the weekly quest. So far, Legendary quests always placed in the daily one.

    Knowledge is Power

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  • FortyDust's Avatar Nightfall 600 830 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 days, 22 hours ago
    Quote From h0lysatan

    While I agree that all quest should be able to be reroll, I wonder if there's gonna be any use for the 4th slot in the weekly quest. So far, Legendary quests always placed in the daily one.

    Sometimes UI designers wisely choose to leave space for unspecified future content.

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  • FortyDust's Avatar Nightfall 600 830 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 days, 22 hours ago
    Quote From KANSAS

    I think it is fine that some of the quests want you to play a specific mode. You get 3 quests and 7 chances to re-roll them, which makes it very easy to avoid doing any quests you don't want.

    As I already pointed out, it is not "very easy." The pool of weekly quests is extremely small -- there are only nine of them if you don't count the permanent Ranked quest. Three of the nine have to do with Battlegrounds and/or other modes. That means every time you reroll, you have a 25% chance to get another Battlegrounds quest, and there's no failsafe in place to keep you from getting a quest you abandoned earlier in the week. So a string of slightly bad luck can leave you having to finish the entire weekly quest in just a few days.

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  • LightSource's Avatar Child of the Night 275 5 Posts Joined 07/18/2019
    Posted 3 days, 20 hours ago

    I think this is an issue that team 5 will inevitably have to address if they seek to make Hearthstone a platform of various game modes. I imagine that the addition of more major game modes (like the upcoming mercenaries game modes) could further dilute the weekly quest pool in future updates. Granted, this discussion is about the current weekly quests, not hypothetical future quests, so I won't digress. 

    With the current UI, perhaps they could implement a guarantee that rerolling a Battlegrounds and/or other modes quest will give a standard quest and vice versa? That way, rolling for quests that apply to the game modes you like would be easier to get. There are some flaws though: if you're stuck with a quest of your preferred game mode that you dislike (I'm looking at you "Play 30 Corrupt Cards"), you'd have to reroll twice to get another quest of your preferred game mode. It's not a perfect solution, but I do think its upsides could help players who prefer specific game modes.

     

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  • KANSAS's Avatar Old God Fanatic 1635 2520 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 days, 19 hours ago
    Quote From FortyDust
    Quote From KANSAS

    I think it is fine that some of the quests want you to play a specific mode. You get 3 quests and 7 chances to re-roll them, which makes it very easy to avoid doing any quests you don't want.

    As I already pointed out, it is not "very easy." The pool of weekly quests is extremely small -- there are only nine of them if you don't count the permanent Ranked quest. Three of the nine have to do with Battlegrounds and/or other modes. That means every time you reroll, you have a 25% chance to get another Battlegrounds quest, and there's no failsafe in place to keep you from getting a quest you abandoned earlier in the week. So a string of slightly bad luck can leave you having to finish the entire weekly quest in just a few days.

    The main point that I was trying to make is that you can choose to opt out of a weekly quest via the skip button. It can be inconvenient when you run into a quest you don't want multiple times in a row, but in my personal opinion I don't think we need extra skips just to make it easier to avoid quests we don't like. Every quest "forces" you to do something in order to complete it, I don't get why we would handle certain quests differently just because some players dislike the objective of some quests more than others.

    Carrion, my wayward grub.

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  • FortyDust's Avatar Nightfall 600 830 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 days, 17 hours ago
    Quote From KANSAS

    I don't get why we would handle certain quests differently just because some players dislike the objective of some quests more than others.

    In the past, all quests were related to Hearthstone, so no matter what the quest was, you were still playing Hearthstone. Everyone playing Hearthstone got quests for Hearthstone.

    These weekly quests can now send you to Battlegrounds or Duels, which are arguably not even the same game as Hearthstone. A lot of people do not play Battlegrounds or Duels, so it's a lot different than being asked to play a few games as Priest when you prefer Hunter.

    Moreover, the rewards from the rewards track don't really do much for you if you are primarily a Battlegrounds player, but that's a different topic.

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  • Fedrion's Avatar Goblin 1050 285 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 3 days, 15 hours ago

    I think everyone would feel better if the quests didn't have the "win" requirement, and just a "play" requirement, which to be honest, Battlegrounds and Duels, are still Hearthstone, that they are not the same mode, and does not got with the same rules as standard/wild constructed, yeah... The same can be said about Arena, Brawls, PVE, and soon Classic and Mercenaries.

    So, it's not a matter of "they should ban X quests", it's "they should rework X quests".

    Because, being honest, I wouldn't mind getting XP for surrendering 3 or more times.

    Winning... That's entirely another story.

    Papa Nurgle wants to share his gifts.

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  • og0's Avatar 1240 854 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 3 days, 14 hours ago

    i definately think the Win 5 Ranked games should be changed to win any 5 of any vs player mode (so excluding any PVE).

    We were promised "play hearthstone your way" so I don't see why people should be forced to play ranked if they don't want to.  I play pretty much ranked exclusively anyway so not a major issue for me, but I don't see why others should be forced.

    All generalizations are false.

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  • sinti's Avatar Global Moderator Maximum Volume 1790 2162 Posts Joined 10/20/2018
    Posted 3 days, 13 hours ago
    Quote From og0

    i definately think the Win 5 Ranked games should be changed to win any 5 of any vs player mode (so excluding any PVE).

    We were promised "play hearthstone your way" so I don't see why people should be forced to play ranked if they don't want to.  I play pretty much ranked exclusively anyway so not a major issue for me, but I don't see why others should be forced.

    That would be awesome, since i dont play ranked pretty much at all, and i cant be bothered to achieve 5 wins per week. If i could complete it in BG or Arena, that would be good for me.

    But i do understand the decision behind it, promoting the main game mode and to win, you need cards = trying to boost sales.

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  • Almaniarra's Avatar Devoted Outlander 770 1213 Posts Joined 03/21/2019
    Posted 1 day, 2 hours ago

    Choosable quests might be even better in my opinion. I mean, The game can ask you whenever you open the game for the day first time like discover mechanic and choose between options of game modes, not especially the quests. It can be a random quest from chosen category like;

    Opened the game;

    A screen of choices appeared as "Arena, Duels, Battlegrounds, Casual/Ranked"
    I chose you, Casual/Ranked !
    I obtained a new random quest related with Casual/Ranked
    He chose you, Battlegrounds !
    He obtained a new random quest related with Battlegrounds !

    Everyone is happy !

    Oh, And there is some extra;

    "I didn't like this quest, let's reroll"
    I obtained a new random quest related with Casual/Ranked again !
    "He didn't like that quest, let's reroll"
    He obtained a new random quest related with Battlegrounds again !

    Everyone is Happier !

    That must not be so hard to implement, I presume.

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