The absolute state of the meta

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar Bloodfeather 1375 2600 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 6 days, 20 hours ago

    You can't make this shit up

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar Dragon Scholar 1310 2280 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 6 days, 20 hours ago

    Just take a deep breath. Only a few days to go before the nerfs go live.

     

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  • R's Avatar The Raven 665 337 Posts Joined 04/23/2020
    Posted 6 days, 19 hours ago
    Quote From YourPrivateNightmare

    You can't make this shit up

    Did you read your forum signature?

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  • Erodos's Avatar Crossroads Historian 695 645 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 6 days, 19 hours ago

    Yep, sadly we'll have to wait a long, long week until Blizzard nerfs it. The lineups for GM are also very funny: out of 48 players, 47 brought mage and 46 brought paladin. The only player to bring neither class is Fled.

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  • dapperdog's Avatar Dragon Scholar 1310 2280 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 6 days, 19 hours ago
    Quote From Erodos

    Yep, sadly we'll have to wait a long, long week until Blizzard nerfs it. The lineups for GM are also very funny: out of 48 players, 47 brought mage and 46 brought paladin. The only player to bring neither class is Fled.

    I'm actually looking forward to it, because I'm absolutely certain that paladin's win rate in grandmasters will be actually less impressive than what we tend to believe it should be.

    Pretty sure the whole lineup in grandmasters is actually targetting mage. Plenty of aggro decks, at least in asia.

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  • FortyDust's Avatar Mankrik's Wife 795 1158 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 6 days, 18 hours ago

    Never a good sign when a deck's worst matchup is itself.

    It makes me wonder if Team 5 didn't think people would combine the Libram package (which was already slightly too strong) with the powerful new Secret tools. Did they think the new package would actually weaken the old one? Did they think there was some reason the two wouldn't work well together? Did they simply not test the two packages in the same deck?

    It boggles the mind.

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar Bloodfeather 1375 2600 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 6 days, 17 hours ago
    Quote From FortyDust

    Never a good sign when a deck's worst matchup is itself.

    It makes me wonder if Team 5 didn't think people would combine the Libram package (which was already slightly too strong) with the powerful new Secret tools. Did they think the new package would actually weaken the old one? Did they think there was some reason the two wouldn't work well together? Did they simply not test the two packages in the same deck?

    It boggles the mind.

    I think that might be legit. I think they thought that to run the Secret Package as a draw engine would require too much deidcation to effectively combine it with Librams, so they didn't consider the overlap of the two obviously very powerful archetypes.

    Also, as is evident by the delayed launch and the multitude of very strange bugs, it's quite obvious that they just didn't have as much time as they needed and it's very likely that playtesting suffered because of it.

    I mean, they clearly didn't playtest Spell Mage that much either or else they would have very quickly realised that DoL gotten that much stronger.

     

    I'm honestly not even mad at the current state of the game. I very much expected something like this to happen, and honestly, if you look at all the other decks that are currently completely overshadowed...they're actually quite diverse. I'm fairly certain that after this initial wave of nerfs (and the second one that takes care of the remaining outliers like Druid or Warlock) we might actually get back to the fairly balanced meta of last expansion.

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • FortyDust's Avatar Mankrik's Wife 795 1158 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 6 days, 17 hours ago

    I completely agree. Once the glaring issues are addressed, we'll be in a pretty good place.

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  • TriMay's Avatar 350 63 Posts Joined 01/15/2020
    Posted 6 days, 16 hours ago
    Quote From YourPrivateNightmare
    Also, as is evident by the delayed launch and the multitude of very strange bugs, it's quite obvious that they just didn't have as much time as they needed and it's very likely that playtesting suffered because of it.

     

    I mean if you look at the history of first expansions for the year, they launched it quite early if you ask me, about 10 days on average earlier.
    (Earliest: April 2nd (Blackrock)   |   Latest: April 26 (Old Gods)   |   Median: April 6th - April 7th)

    They absolutely could have given themselves a week of more time but for some reason, be it publisher or manager urging it, or an absolute belief that they were ready... They decided this should be the first expansion released in March since the games own release date in 2014

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar Bloodfeather 1375 2600 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 6 days, 16 hours ago
    Quote From TriMay
    Quote From YourPrivateNightmare
    Also, as is evident by the delayed launch and the multitude of very strange bugs, it's quite obvious that they just didn't have as much time as they needed and it's very likely that playtesting suffered because of it.

     

    I mean if you look at the history of first expansions for the year, they launched it quite early if you ask me, about 10 days on average earlier.
    (Earliest: April 2nd (Blackrock)   |   Latest: April 26 (Old Gods)   |   Median: April 6th - April 7th)

    They absolutely could have given themselves a week of more time but for some reason, be it publisher or manager urging it, or an absolute belief that they were ready... They decided this should be the first expansion released in March since the games own release date in 2014

    Oh no I don't mean that they released it too early, I'm saying it quite literally wasn't finished yet (for various reasons, some of which might be pandemic related) but they just couldn't push it back even more.

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • aposteljoe's Avatar Hero of Warcraft 650 246 Posts Joined 06/18/2019
    Posted 5 days, 22 hours ago

    I once would like to see the winrates excluding the mirror.

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  • Live4vrRdieTryn's Avatar 350 414 Posts Joined 07/14/2019
    Posted 4 days, 7 hours ago

    I hope they don't nerf lunacy to 4 and completely destroy it... Though I'm up 3200 gold if they do

    Not to be confused with a Tryndamere main. Marksmen like Samira.

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