Playing with Kennen

  • BingoNoEyes's Avatar
    185 82 Posts Joined 05/07/2020
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    When Kennen first came along, I discovered in my first match that you don't have to play just recalled units for his trigger to level up. Any duplicate unit will work. This has led me to the question? What other play styles and champions does he pair with? Bellow is my first experiment.

    As you can see, is focuses on fielding units (at best, the Encroaching Mist) and then recalling and copying them to re-trigger their effects. I think this is a deck style that could be used with other unit spam champions like Azir but what do you think? What are other creative ways to speed level Kennen? Or use his support cards to buff other decks?

    PS: I'm also looking for feedback on this deck. It plays well, but not great and I'm looking for ways to improve.

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  • TheTriferianGeneral's Avatar
    Soldier 535 741 Posts Joined 02/10/2020
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    I can't say if the deck is good.

    I however can say with absolute certainty say that Tail-Cloak Matriarch doesn't belong into this deck.

    Like how many recall effects do you play? 6? And 3 of those are reactice recalls.

    Like this card is hardly worth in dedicated recall decks but in this list? I feel it downgrades the deck for no good reason and should be replaced with Go Get It if you want to keep the spirit of the card or a Deny if you want to go more into a competetive direction

    Also there is in general too little interaction in this deck and neighter Fae Bladetwirler not Mask Mother have enough support to be worth it.

    The theme that seems to be worth trying is Mistwraith Kennen Encroaching Mist featuring summon effects like Camavoran Soldier 

    Some issue I also see with Scribe of Sorrows is that he will hit encroaching mist a lot which isn't the greatest hit

    Oh and as the final question i would like to know how helpful Kennen actually is in this list.

    Stun effects hardly support the deck's theme, also does Kennen still level quite slow because you can't tutor him and the fact that encroaching mists are meant to be summoned in small counts until lategame where leveling Kennen is not worth it anymore (at least in this build) 

    I feel like Kennen is not worth for the list and that Ahri would be more useful for recalling/recycling you summoning units 

     

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  • Nifty129's Avatar
    370 522 Posts Joined 05/29/2020
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    Leveling Kenin off encroaching mists is an interesting concept.

    I honestly don't see anything inherently wrong with it if you nail the tech choices and ratioing down.

    I'd say keep it up!

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  • BingoNoEyes's Avatar
    185 82 Posts Joined 05/07/2020
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    It’s also interesting because you about double the rate at which you power up your Encroaching Mis

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  • TheTriferianGeneral's Avatar
    Soldier 535 741 Posts Joined 02/10/2020
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    The issue that I see with bingo's strategy is that Encroaching Mists aren't easily summoned and take a good while to build up. 

    You usually have to level Kennen faster than turn 6+ to be worth it and this deck proably doesn't get him leveled fast especially if you don't draw Camavoran Soldier who you can't tutor with this list.

    Also as I already mentioned the deck doesn't provide a serious payoff for level 2 kennen. Fae Bladetwirler is a quite aweful payoff for Kennen level 2 since getting atk on a 3 health unit without evasion on turn 6+ is nearly meanigless it's not like marks of the storm are dead cards on their own but without overwhelm units, Yasuo or Kinkou Wayfinder i don't see enough profit for Kennen to make sense

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  • Nifty129's Avatar
    370 522 Posts Joined 05/29/2020
    Posted 5 months, 1 week ago

    Combo Kenin decks are down to about  45% winrate so I'm not sure if you absolutely need to solo wincon Kenin like you usually do in a combo deck.

    So I could see building a viego deck that has Kenin as a side stun control piece.

    But the card choices are obviously wrong you need the 3 mana bounce landmark that also works with encroaching mists quite well.

    Recall that let's you bounce Kenin and then play cameraman soldier from hand and also just general purpose control cards.

    I'll build it and then post in this forum for a more playable list. This is the thing we should be encouraging players to bring us our brews instead of saying they won't work.

    This is basically the mix you are going for, exactly half way between existing Kenin and Ionia Viego lists.

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