HarpomandrakeServant of Illidan 40537 PostsJoined 07/12/2019
Posted 3 years ago
I tested it a bit for the first few days but Spell Mage absolutely ruins it as by and large this deck really needs opposing minions to interact with to get the most out of it. It's also by no means the most refined of lists. It was fun playing Saurfang and getting a lot of value out of him though.
I would say for the sake of the deck Saurfang is required but Rokara isn't, though she is very good with rush minions. Overlord Runthak is free in core so all good there.
There are some nerfs incoming and it's likely to effect Deck of Lunacy which might reduce the amount of spell mages and make this a bit more viable though the heart of the deck was built on the meme of 12 Angry Men so it may never be truly competitive.
HarpomandrakeServant of Illidan 40537 PostsJoined 07/12/2019
Posted 3 years ago
Haha I counted it as follows:
Cruel Taskmaster x 2
Rokara
Warmaul Challenger x 2
Bloodboil Brute x 2
Overlord Saurfang
Blademaster Samuro
Barrens Blacksmith x 2
Overlord Runthak
Makes 12 Angry Orcs
Mankrik can't count as he can't be in the jury as his wife is dead. I reckoned the Bloodsail Deckhands were Goblins and all the other minions were either Trolls or Taurens.
HarpomandrakeServant of Illidan 40537 PostsJoined 07/12/2019
Posted 3 years ago
The deck was certainly built on the meme first haha. Though I feel like it might work, it depends on how sticky the larger minions can become because there's going to be a lot of board clearing this expansion.
I like E.T.C., God of Metal with how many rush minions there are. I also think it might be worth putting in some sort of hard removal like Coerce as Libram Paladin is still a thing and has if anything gotten even more support...not to mention all sorts of taunt strategies which are likely to thrive across multiple classes.
I'm going to see how it plays on day 1 then makes some tweaks and update this list.
HarpomandrakeServant of Illidan 40537 PostsJoined 07/12/2019
Posted 3 years ago
Thank you very much. What's not to like with justice for Olgra? The best part is that once you draw her and clear Kargath's name Mankrik attacks the real murderer which is your opponent, the deck works as a film in it's own rights.
HarpomandrakeServant of Illidan 40537 PostsJoined 07/12/2019
Posted 3 years, 1 month ago
Updated version. I took out the Warsong Envoys and an Animated Broomstick as more minions in the deck have rush than don't and there are multiple Frenzy activators available. Then I added in Overlord Runthak and 2 x Warmaul Challengers as it fit well on the curve and played into multiple other cards (the Brute and the Shield) plus it's good removal on turn 3.
HarpomandrakeServant of Illidan 40537 PostsJoined 07/12/2019
Posted 3 years, 1 month ago
I guess as we've added Bloodsail Deckhands and Crabriders plus there's a ton of rush in there we could go back to being a bit greedy again. I do like the idea of highballing Overlord Saurfang as it really would feel bad it you pulled two Warsong Envoys off of him.
HarpomandrakeServant of Illidan 40537 PostsJoined 07/12/2019
Posted 3 years, 1 month ago
Only trouble with Taelan Fordring is it might pull the Bloodboil Brute which isn't so bad but not guaranteed Overlord Saurfang, that is until you have Kargath Prime. Then it would be good. There's a fair amount of card draw in there to either thin the deck or straight draw cards so I'd feel we've got quite a few ways of searching for Saurfang or big Kargath.
I had the Bladestorm half as an aggro clear and half as a Frenzy activator. I reckon we could lose it for a Corsair Cache but keep the Cruel Taskmaster as another Frenzy Activator. Then there's two taskmasters and two Whirling Combatants along with the 2 x Animated Broomstick to get those Frenzy's going as well as Saurfang's battlecry for any Frenzy minions already on the board.
HarpomandrakeServant of Illidan 40537 PostsJoined 07/12/2019
Posted 3 years, 1 month ago
Once I've put in some low cost minions you don't really need the 2 x Minefield for removal and adding more rush can't hurt. Thank you, I'm going to amend it and give you a mention in the guide.
The beauty of all of this is we have still managed to keep 12 angry orc jurors despite the changes so the meme of the deck remains!
HarpomandrakeServant of Illidan 40537 PostsJoined 07/12/2019
Posted 3 years, 1 month ago
Yes I think you might be right, I did think I might lose some of the high-roll value on Overlord Saurfang but there's not point in having it if you can't get to that point in the game.
Warsong Envoy would be good or possibly Bloodsail Deckhand as it would discount the weapons? I think I'd lose two out of the following to put these in: Overlord Runthak, a Taurajo Brave, a Bloodboil Brute or a Warsong Commander as there is plenty of rush in there already and the broomsticks to boot. What do you think?
HarpomandrakeServant of Illidan 40537 PostsJoined 07/12/2019
Posted 3 years, 1 month ago
Thank you very much! For the keen of eye you'll also notice there are 12 orc jurors and Mankrik as the spouse of the deceased. Then a few Taurens and Trolls in the galleries to oversee proceedings.
HarpomandrakeServant of Illidan 40537 PostsJoined 07/12/2019
Posted 3 years, 1 month ago
Does pissed off Mankrik have different card art? Or just the same but with a 3/10 stat line?
I think this will see play in heavy draw decks. Face damage, of which they are removing a lot of, and the potential for a big body that needs dealing with quite early on.
HarpomandrakeServant of Illidan 40537 PostsJoined 07/12/2019
Posted 4 years, 1 month ago
This is one of those cards that looks a bit meh but is actually really good. I wonder if it will always give you a choice of a mage, paladin and hunter secret or if it's going to mix it up?
HarpomandrakeServant of Illidan 40537 PostsJoined 07/12/2019
Posted 4 years, 4 months ago
Does it come with any Wafers?
This deck gave me a good laugh. I would love to annoy the hell out of my opponent with hundreds of 1/1 birds. How competitive it will be is another matter entirely but the game is about having fun too! Which is exactly what is listed as.
HarpomandrakeServant of Illidan 40537 PostsJoined 07/12/2019
Posted 4 years, 4 months ago
Just wanted to say I've played a little with the deck and I REALLY like it. What I like about secret mage is it has the tools to beat any deck. With the inclusion of highlander cards and some control elements this deck is even better at doing that! I also put an Eater of Secrets in instead of Loatheb as there's so many secret mages on the ladder.
Thanks again for the great deck and congrats on making it into the Weekend of Wild Decks list, most deserved!
Not that I play it but I'm going to go out on a limb and say Bomb Warrior will still be the more competitive deck if you're picking warrior simply because of Dr. Boom, Mad Genius.
Hunter is probably my least played class hence no vault unsealing for me.
I tested it a bit for the first few days but Spell Mage absolutely ruins it as by and large this deck really needs opposing minions to interact with to get the most out of it. It's also by no means the most refined of lists. It was fun playing Saurfang and getting a lot of value out of him though.
I would say for the sake of the deck Saurfang is required but Rokara isn't, though she is very good with rush minions. Overlord Runthak is free in core so all good there.
There are some nerfs incoming and it's likely to effect Deck of Lunacy which might reduce the amount of spell mages and make this a bit more viable though the heart of the deck was built on the meme of 12 Angry Men so it may never be truly competitive.
Haha I counted it as follows:
Cruel Taskmaster x 2
Rokara
Warmaul Challenger x 2
Bloodboil Brute x 2
Overlord Saurfang
Blademaster Samuro
Barrens Blacksmith x 2
Overlord Runthak
Makes 12 Angry Orcs
Mankrik can't count as he can't be in the jury as his wife is dead. I reckoned the Bloodsail Deckhands were Goblins and all the other minions were either Trolls or Taurens.
The deck was certainly built on the meme first haha. Though I feel like it might work, it depends on how sticky the larger minions can become because there's going to be a lot of board clearing this expansion.
I like E.T.C., God of Metal with how many rush minions there are. I also think it might be worth putting in some sort of hard removal like Coerce as Libram Paladin is still a thing and has if anything gotten even more support...not to mention all sorts of taunt strategies which are likely to thrive across multiple classes.
I'm going to see how it plays on day 1 then makes some tweaks and update this list.
Bravo, the plot line has sub plots!
Thank you very much. What's not to like with justice for Olgra? The best part is that once you draw her and clear Kargath's name Mankrik attacks the real murderer which is your opponent, the deck works as a film in it's own rights.
Updated version. I took out the Warsong Envoys and an Animated Broomstick as more minions in the deck have rush than don't and there are multiple Frenzy activators available. Then I added in Overlord Runthak and 2 x Warmaul Challengers as it fit well on the curve and played into multiple other cards (the Brute and the Shield) plus it's good removal on turn 3.
I guess as we've added Bloodsail Deckhands and Crabriders plus there's a ton of rush in there we could go back to being a bit greedy again. I do like the idea of highballing Overlord Saurfang as it really would feel bad it you pulled two Warsong Envoys off of him.
Only trouble with Taelan Fordring is it might pull the Bloodboil Brute which isn't so bad but not guaranteed Overlord Saurfang, that is until you have Kargath Prime. Then it would be good. There's a fair amount of card draw in there to either thin the deck or straight draw cards so I'd feel we've got quite a few ways of searching for Saurfang or big Kargath.
I had the Bladestorm half as an aggro clear and half as a Frenzy activator. I reckon we could lose it for a Corsair Cache but keep the Cruel Taskmaster as another Frenzy Activator. Then there's two taskmasters and two Whirling Combatants along with the 2 x Animated Broomstick to get those Frenzy's going as well as Saurfang's battlecry for any Frenzy minions already on the board.
Once I've put in some low cost minions you don't really need the 2 x Minefield for removal and adding more rush can't hurt. Thank you, I'm going to amend it and give you a mention in the guide.
The beauty of all of this is we have still managed to keep 12 angry orc jurors despite the changes so the meme of the deck remains!
Yes I think you might be right, I did think I might lose some of the high-roll value on Overlord Saurfang but there's not point in having it if you can't get to that point in the game.
Warsong Envoy would be good or possibly Bloodsail Deckhand as it would discount the weapons? I think I'd lose two out of the following to put these in: Overlord Runthak, a Taurajo Brave, a Bloodboil Brute or a Warsong Commander as there is plenty of rush in there already and the broomsticks to boot. What do you think?
Thank you very much! For the keen of eye you'll also notice there are 12 orc jurors and Mankrik as the spouse of the deceased. Then a few Taurens and Trolls in the galleries to oversee proceedings.
I think this will see play in heavy draw decks. Face damage, of which they are removing a lot of, and the potential for a big body that needs dealing with quite early on.
Thanks so much, I never win anything, this is great.
I am now proudly sporting my undying support to Illadin!
This is some of my favourite art from this expansion, I feel like the token generated should have been a full size hulking demon though.
Edit - Just had a look and the Cursed Shadow from the Cursed Vagrant Rogue card would have been more appropriate
This is one of those cards that looks a bit meh but is actually really good. I wonder if it will always give you a choice of a mage, paladin and hunter secret or if it's going to mix it up?
Does it come with any Wafers?
This deck gave me a good laugh. I would love to annoy the hell out of my opponent with hundreds of 1/1 birds. How competitive it will be is another matter entirely but the game is about having fun too! Which is exactly what is listed as.
I was about to ask where you can see all the upgraded spells and then found it. Crikey there is some good value in there isn't there!?
So far the two mage reveals look great, keep them coming please Blizzard.
Just wanted to say I've played a little with the deck and I REALLY like it. What I like about secret mage is it has the tools to beat any deck. With the inclusion of highlander cards and some control elements this deck is even better at doing that! I also put an Eater of Secrets in instead of Loatheb as there's so many secret mages on the ladder.
Thanks again for the great deck and congrats on making it into the Weekend of Wild Decks list, most deserved!
This looks a lot of fun, I'm missing Kazakus and Loatheb but I'm playing wild a lot more so may craft them.
Secret Mage is my favourite deck of all time so I'm always keen on variations of it!
Also big congrats on Legend. I'm floundering around rank 6 at the moment so will continue the climb.
Hack the System or Unseal the Vault for me.
Not that I play it but I'm going to go out on a limb and say Bomb Warrior will still be the more competitive deck if you're picking warrior simply because of Dr. Boom, Mad Genius.
Hunter is probably my least played class hence no vault unsealing for me.