Gentle Megasaur with guaranteed divine shield on 1 turn later.
I don't know if murloc paladin with prismatic lens is going to be a thing again, my guess is that it won't happen again, but this card looks pretty strong.
I don't believe he would quit the hearthstone just for the one class being trash. As someone have posted the link in this thread, he quit probably because of powercreeps with hero cards and lackeys.
I think it's hard for hearthstone team to keep up their game fresh, I feel they should start exploring new ideas and just start already.
I agree with this, anything that increases mana cost is also a nerf with no upside, even if it get benefits from mutate/other evolve spell, because now we have more time to answer it with removal spell or board control.
There are some hard-to-kill minions like Tyrantus too, but you will have more time to deal with it. Like you said, it’s much better.
6 mana 3/3 feels pretty bad right now. A tiny stat boost like +1 hp instead of butchering would have been better, but atleast we are done with Galakrond now. [Hearthstone Card (Dragon pack) Not Found] IMO should also get nerfed.
And as usual, I don’t like their simplistic balance design.
I had this happened to me too alot when I was playing on Gadgetzan expansion, theres one certain deck I faced often and lost many games, switched to another deck, and never seen that obnoxious deck again and lost several times again.
Feels bad man when you facing rigged matchups right now, but during rise of shadow expansion I had good matchups several games. It may be suspicious right now, but you can still try to spam it until you have finally to see the opponent you want.
But of course... taking a break is my best answer for now, I would give up at that moment honestly.
Note: Other class can Hunter can OTK opponent too, you can find those decks in this site by searching Dread Raven in the decklist, it is quite the only type of viable deck for Dread Raven right now.
The other classes I mentioned are just a list of possible combos... they are definitely not that great for these certain classes, because they don't play around with copy and summon effects on Dread Raven solely, otherwise, I didn't mentioned that anyone should use it for ranked too either.
The purpose of this thread is to just show the possible ways, but thanks anyways for putting a combo list added here.
I'm probably the only one who figures this out alone lately since nobody has talked about it, so I made this one.
Before we go into it, most of these applies to wild format most of time, so Dread Raven is still an obvious meme card, but you can atleast see the possible combos with Dread Raven to enjoy.
There are only two classes that can do a reliable and effective way with Dread Ravens than the other seven classes. Right now I feel they can do amazing well in my theory if these cards can have a place in any deck, those two classes are Priest and Mage!
Two of these classes have their own several ways to play Dread Raven, by copying or resummoning Dread Ravens, the idea of this is to spam them on the board and threaten your opponent with Dread Raven standing still on the board.
Mage can OTK the opponent with Open the Waygate. For priest, I'm not sure if possible with Temporus in an easy way.
These two classes can do it very effectively so far, Rogue is excluded since shuffling them and playing 3 mana minion is less effective than copying and resummoning them.
While we are relying on Dread Raven, If you don't manage to draw one of these, The card could still be threatening in late game as they can easily multiplied and burst any hero's health at anytime if they are alive.
Decklists aren't here yet, but you can make it your own if you are a main mage player or main priest player. I have written little guide here as well for each two of them.
Note: Other class like Hunter can OTK opponent too, you can find those decks in this site by searching Dread Raven in the decklist, it is quite the only type of viable deck for Dread Raven right now.
Mage
Of course, this is a list of possible ways to do it, you don't need to add all of them at once in one deck, you would be lacking an answer to your opponent's threat. But hopefully there are some space for it, although I don't know which deck it goes in, so this is obviously made for a meme deck, feel free to try it out.
Play the ordinary old quest mage, you can try Arcane Breath too if the dragons can have its place too. Copy them with Duplication and Simulacrum, Then discount it with Leyline Manipulator (reduce all copied Raven to 1!). Have four Dread Raven with Time Warp ready -> Deal 48 Damage.
Priest
With priest decks, not only you do have copy mechanics, but you have also many ways to resurrect it. Yes yes, it may be the worst resurrection you can make... but the resurrecting this bird can be effective and not a dumb way at all, because of that, Dread Raven is probably the only worth minion to be resummoned compared to all other cheap minions.
If the big priest can spam the big minions, then you can spam it too!
Cards with resurrection mechanic from best to worst:Psychopomp, Resurrect, Mass Resurrection, Eternal Servitude (IMO, I don't like it since you will be spamming Dread Ravens anyways), and others that are weak and no synergistic ([Hearthstone Card (Sleeping Soul) Not Found], Onyx Bishop, etc)
There is possible way to make OTK with it, but I'm still not sure if it's worth to do so or not. All I can do is give you guys the hints, which are Temporus, and maybe Fate Weaver can be included as well.
And that's pretty much it, no other classes can do it effectively than them, we do have Greater Sapphire Spellstone for shaman, but that's only one way to do it for that class, and we need more ways to spam Dread Ravens.
Anyways, hope you guys will enjoy the new expansion, I will be of course trying out powerful cards first, but I'm also quite interested in meme cards too.
Yeah, and also the big dragon minion for shaman on turn 4 with spell damage +2 is going to be ruined almost every single game... I just want to try out this stupid card and beat everyone with it lol.
Gentle Megasaur with guaranteed divine shield on 1 turn later.
I don't know if murloc paladin with prismatic lens is going to be a thing again, my guess is that it won't happen again, but this card looks pretty strong.
This card will atleast have more impact than Big Bad Voodoo.
I don't believe he would quit the hearthstone just for the one class being trash. As someone have posted the link in this thread, he quit probably because of powercreeps with hero cards and lackeys.
I think it's hard for hearthstone team to keep up their game fresh, I feel they should start exploring new ideas and just start already.
I agree with this, anything that increases mana cost is also a nerf with no upside, even if it get benefits from mutate/other evolve spell, because now we have more time to answer it with removal spell or board control.
There are some hard-to-kill minions like Tyrantus too, but you will have more time to deal with it. Like you said, it’s much better.
6 mana 3/3 feels pretty bad right now. A tiny stat boost like +1 hp instead of butchering would have been better, but atleast we are done with Galakrond now. [Hearthstone Card (Dragon pack) Not Found] IMO should also get nerfed.
And as usual, I don’t like their simplistic balance design.
I’m with this one.
I’m also using hearthstone with mobile/tablet only, and this website is really great for it!
Looking forward to that too!
I had this happened to me too alot when I was playing on Gadgetzan expansion, theres one certain deck I faced often and lost many games, switched to another deck, and never seen that obnoxious deck again and lost several times again.
Feels bad man when you facing rigged matchups right now, but during rise of shadow expansion I had good matchups several games. It may be suspicious right now, but you can still try to spam it until you have finally to see the opponent you want.
But of course... taking a break is my best answer for now, I would give up at that moment honestly.
Lightning Breath is pretty damn good, this card is probably the only reason to play shaman dragon deck if it ever exists, excellent removal spell.
Squallhunter is okay, but not auto included in many decks unless standard format does benefit from it, which I won’t be playing that for a while.
Though I can’t wait to see many refined decks for shaman, looks like I won’t get bored from playing this class again.
I already mentioned it:
The other classes I mentioned are just a list of possible combos... they are definitely not that great for these certain classes, because they don't play around with copy and summon effects on Dread Raven solely, otherwise, I didn't mentioned that anyone should use it for ranked too either.
The purpose of this thread is to just show the possible ways, but thanks anyways for putting a combo list added here.
By the way, have fun with the expansion!
I'm probably the only one who figures this out alone lately since nobody has talked about it, so I made this one.
Before we go into it, most of these applies to wild format most of time, so Dread Raven is still an obvious meme card, but you can atleast see the possible combos with Dread Raven to enjoy.
There are only two classes that can do a reliable and effective way with Dread Ravens than the other seven classes. Right now I feel they can do amazing well in my theory if these cards can have a place in any deck, those two classes are Priest and Mage!
Two of these classes have their own several ways to play Dread Raven, by copying or resummoning Dread Ravens, the idea of this is to spam them on the board and threaten your opponent with Dread Raven standing still on the board.
Mage can OTK the opponent with Open the Waygate. For priest, I'm not sure if possible with Temporus in an easy way.
These two classes can do it very effectively so far, Rogue is excluded since shuffling them and playing 3 mana minion is less effective than copying and resummoning them.
While we are relying on Dread Raven, If you don't manage to draw one of these, The card could still be threatening in late game as they can easily multiplied and burst any hero's health at anytime if they are alive.
Decklists aren't here yet, but you can make it your own if you are a main mage player or main priest player. I have written little guide here as well for each two of them.
Note: Other class like Hunter can OTK opponent too, you can find those decks in this site by searching Dread Raven in the decklist, it is quite the only type of viable deck for Dread Raven right now.
Mage
Of course, this is a list of possible ways to do it, you don't need to add all of them at once in one deck, you would be lacking an answer to your opponent's threat. But hopefully there are some space for it, although I don't know which deck it goes in, so this is obviously made for a meme deck, feel free to try it out.
Cards with a copy mechanic from best to worst: Molten Reflection, Splitting Image, Duplicate, Echo of Medivh, Simulacrum, Hex Lord Malacrass,
A way to make Dread Ravens and copy spells more viable: Leyline Manipulator, Khadgar, Hex Lord Malacrass (More copy spells, more Dread Raven)
The OTK way:
Play the ordinary old quest mage, you can try Arcane Breath too if the dragons can have its place too. Copy them with Duplication and Simulacrum, Then discount it with Leyline Manipulator (reduce all copied Raven to 1!). Have four Dread Raven with Time Warp ready -> Deal 48 Damage.
Priest
With priest decks, not only you do have copy mechanics, but you have also many ways to resurrect it.
Yes yes, it may be the worst resurrection you can make... but the resurrecting this bird can be effective and not a dumb way at all, because of that, Dread Raven is probably the only worth minion to be resummoned compared to all other cheap minions.
If the big priest can spam the big minions, then you can spam it too!
Cards with a copy mechanic from best to worst: Herald Volazj (!!!), Grave Rune, Shadowy Figure, Mirage Caller, Vivid Nightmare, Seance, Power Word: Replicate.
Cards with resurrection mechanic from best to worst: Psychopomp, Resurrect, Mass Resurrection, Eternal Servitude (IMO, I don't like it since you will be spamming Dread Ravens anyways), and others that are weak and no synergistic ([Hearthstone Card (Sleeping Soul) Not Found], Onyx Bishop, etc)
There is possible way to make OTK with it, but I'm still not sure if it's worth to do so or not. All I can do is give you guys the hints, which are Temporus, and maybe Fate Weaver can be included as well.
And that's pretty much it, no other classes can do it effectively than them, we do have Greater Sapphire Spellstone for shaman, but that's only one way to do it for that class, and we need more ways to spam Dread Ravens.
Anyways, hope you guys will enjoy the new expansion, I will be of course trying out powerful cards first, but I'm also quite interested in meme cards too.
So, have a great day!
Uhh what? It actually does, just tested with Corpse Raiser and Shadowy Figure on any minion, and there’s no issue at all.
It can work with mogu.
I never saw Carnivorous Cube on priest (except old priest quest), so I think it's a bad card, will see though.
Grizzled Wizard + old Sir Finley alone stills work though as a hero power destroyer, right?
If this actually works, I'm going to add this every game in wild format, high potential as cheapest and best disruption card.
Yeah, and also the big dragon minion for shaman on turn 4 with spell damage +2 is going to be ruined almost every single game... I just want to try out this stupid card and beat everyone with it lol.
A good value card, only random summon effect worries me much.
I would not like to craft this card until it seen some play in good meme decks.
This.
Even as a shaman fan, this is absolutely crazy.
There are also good direct and aoe damage spells in a cheap cost too. Make a deck based with new overload cards and this card has almost no downside.
Power-creeps are already taking over the game, I am not surprised to see kinds of card like this one.
So many good cards in this expansion...
This is just good overall, it's has great value for midrange and token paladin.
I have played Tinkertown Technician, the +1/+1 added value is pretty awesome.
If this card can have its place in mech decks, then it might find a home when the meta wants a tempo gameplay.
Maybe, really depends on the blizzard's dictionary, if they willingly to update it or not