Yeah it is definitely cancerous. Thanks for the props. BTW that 1 card difference was the difference between winning and losing in at least 3 of my games (10%) so while it may seem minor it made a huge difference in the WR.
I'm a fairly decent player but I'm no 80% plus WR Hearthstone Pro. The point of this post is to reiterate how unbelievably strong this deck is. Obviously now considering they nerfed 2 of the core cards. I could care less what the "community" thinks, I like to win, I play to win, I like to play powerful decks and I play the decks I have cards for (I'm FTP and have never spent a cent on this game).
I know I'm late to the discussion but here's my take based on my experience with MMR in other games where it's a bit more transparent and my Hearthstone play experience.
I'm fairly certain that MMR is calculated using your WR vs the WR of you opponents over a number of games with a modifier for your ranking (both highest in previous season and current). I don't think it takes into account the type of deck you are playing at all.
This method of calculating MMR (WR vs opponents WR modified by ranking) ensures your MMR has a floor cap (because of the ranking modifier) and fairly accurately pits you against players of similar skill levels. However I generally find that in the lower rankings I am playing less skilled players which only propels me into the higher ranking with higher skilled opponents faster. All things considered I think its about as fair as a system can be in this type of game.
Wow, just wow. This deck is unbelievably good. It has it all, silences, board clears, burst damage, targeted removal, healing. I actually did a 30 damage OTK w/Il'gynoth. Most difficult match ups were Libram Paladin and Control Warrior everything else seemed easy.
Edit: Forgot to mention, I played this deck from Diamond 10 (no stars) to legend.
### Tempo DH # Class: Demonhunter # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 2x (1) Consume Magic # 2x (1) Spirit Jailer # 2x (1) Twin Slice # 2x (2) Blade Dance # 2x (2) Chaos Strike # 2x (2) Manafeeder Panthara # 2x (2) Soul Shear # 2x (3) Aldrachi Warblades # 1x (3) Relentless Pursuit # 2x (3) Shardshatter Mystic # 1x (4) Il'gynoth # 1x (4) Kayn Sunfury # 2x (4) Marrowslicer # 2x (5) Soulshard Lapidary # 2x (6) Bladed Lady # 2x (6) Skull of Gul'dan # 1x (7) Soulciologist Malicia # AAECAea5AwTaxgPP0gPF3QPQ3QMNh7oD17sD4LwD2cYD1MgD/MgD0c0D+84DzNIDzdID1NID99UDzN0DAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
I was sitting at D5 waiting for MDF to drop. Once it hit I tried a number of decks some just updated with a few of the new cards and some completely new creations using the new set. After quite a few runs and a lot of frustration I went back to the tried and true DH Soul Frag deck. The only card in this deck from the current expansion is the Bladed Lady which essentially took the place of the Glaivebound Adept. I also dropped the Wandmakers from the original list which ran just 1 Glaivebound Adept and 1 Consume Magic. I managed a 72% WR from D5 no stars to Legend in one run on the eve of the 30th (phew, cut it close).
### Tempo DH # Class: Demonhunter # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 2x (1) Consume Magic # 2x (1) Pen Flinger # 2x (1) Spirit Jailer # 2x (1) Twin Slice # 2x (2) Blade Dance # 2x (2) Chaos Strike # 2x (2) Manafeeder Panthara # 2x (2) Soul Shear # 2x (3) Aldrachi Warblades # 2x (3) Shardshatter Mystic # 1x (4) Kayn Sunfury # 2x (4) Marrowslicer # 2x (5) Soulshard Lapidary # 2x (6) Bladed Lady # 2x (6) Skull of Gul'dan # 1x (7) Soulciologist Malicia # AAECAea5AwLaxgPP0gMOh7oD17sD4LwD2cYD1MgD/MgDn80D0c0D+84DzNIDzdID1NID99UDzN0DAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
Athletic Studies has been absolute gold in this deck. I played around with a few different configurations but the Studies simply gave me the most bang for the buck. The ability to get just the right Rush minion at a crucial time is, to me, much more valuable than a 3rd Shield of Honor (Rampage) or a 2nd Cache.
I found that Cache was often a very bad tempo play early or a dead card late and after the nerf I don't think running 2 of them is justified. This deck does not revolve around it's weapons like Bomb Warrior. I also had to cut a card to make room For Barov and the Cache was just the worst performing card in the deck.
The original deck (pre-Scholomance) only ran 2 Rampage so I look at this as a 1 for 1 replacement with Shield of Honor. I tried running Rampage over a few of the other cards but in the end I felt it was simply overkill as Shield is better in just about every situation.
That said you can cut the Studies or just run 1 of them and add a Cache or a Rampage (or 2) back in. But I really think my run was made much easier because of the Studies. Try it out and let me know if you get similar results.
I essentially played 2 decks to legend this season (September).
From Bronze to D5 I mainly used a Budget Aggro Hunter (68% WR). This deck went through several revisions but here is the final version:
### Budget Aggro Hunter # Class: Hunter # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 2x (1) Adorable Infestation # 2x (1) Demon Companion # 2x (1) Dwarven Sharpshooter # 2x (1) Intrepid Initiate # 2x (1) Tour Guide # 2x (1) Wolpertinger # 2x (2) Freezing Trap # 2x (2) Phase Stalker # 2x (2) Pressure Plate # 2x (2) Scavenger's Ingenuity # 2x (2) Voracious Reader # 2x (3) Animal Companion # 2x (3) Eaglehorn Bow # 2x (3) Kill Command # 2x (4) Hyena Alpha # AAECAR8AD6gCtQOHBP4Mn6UDoqUD+68D/K8D/7oD3MwDm80Dos4DgtADxtEDudIDAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone # Generated by HDT - https://hsreplay.net
On my final run from D5 to legend, after quite a few attempts with several other decks, I tried Soul Shard Demon Hunter. It took 27 games with 11 losses (71% WR) starting at D5 no stars. Here is the version I played:
### Soul Reaper DH # Class: Demonhunter # Format: Standard # Year of the Phoenix # # 2x (1) Battlefiend # 2x (1) Consume Magic # 2x (1) Spirit Jailer # 2x (1) Twin Slice # 2x (2) Blade Dance # 2x (2) Manafeeder Panthara # 2x (2) Soul Shear # 2x (3) Aldrachi Warblades # 2x (3) Shardshatter Mystic # 2x (4) Ashtongue Battlelord # 1x (4) Kayn Sunfury # 2x (4) Marrowslicer # 2x (5) Glaivebound Adept # 2x (5) Soulshard Lapidary # 2x (6) Skull of Gul'dan # 1x (7) Soulciologist Malicia # AAECAea5AwLaxgPP0gMOh7oDnLwD4LwD2cYD1MgD98gD/MgD/sgD0c0D+84DzNIDzdID1NID99UDAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone # Generated by HDT - https://hsreplay.net
Match Ups:
Priest: Easy, Consume Magic and burst damage is key.
Shaman: Easy, everything beats Shaman.
Warlock: Easy, self damage Warlock makes for easy games.
Demon Hunter: Easy, this version is simply better in the mirror.
Hunter: Easy, life gain, board clears and taunt simply shut aggro down.
Mage: Easy, just overwhelm them with damage.
Warrior: Toss-up, comes down to your life gain vs their bombs and their armor gain vs your damage output.
Druid: Toss-Up, sometimes they just get the nuts and ramp to Guardian Animals or bust out a Kael'thas on turn 5 and there's nothing you can do. Other games you just smorc them down. Blade Dance is key in this match up.
Rogue (Stealth/Weapon): Easy, see Hunter.
Rogue (Secret): Toss-up, really depends on how well you play around Plagiarize and if you have immediate removal/silence in hand for Hanar.
Paladin: Difficult, you have to juggle keeping their board clear, going face and hoping you have an answer for their Divine Shield, buffed, heal for 8, Taunt minion turn. Consume Magic and Kayn Sunfury are key in this match up.
Nomi is a meme but C'thun is a better finisher.
I could care less.
Yeah it is definitely cancerous. Thanks for the props. BTW that 1 card difference was the difference between winning and losing in at least 3 of my games (10%) so while it may seem minor it made a huge difference in the WR.
Funny I only faced 3 DH during my 31 game climb from D10 to Legend and 2 of those were Aggro. Better lucky than good, right?
I'm a fairly decent player but I'm no 80% plus WR Hearthstone Pro. The point of this post is to reiterate how unbelievably strong this deck is. Obviously now considering they nerfed 2 of the core cards. I could care less what the "community" thinks, I like to win, I play to win, I like to play powerful decks and I play the decks I have cards for (I'm FTP and have never spent a cent on this game).
I know I'm late to the discussion but here's my take based on my experience with MMR in other games where it's a bit more transparent and my Hearthstone play experience.
I'm fairly certain that MMR is calculated using your WR vs the WR of you opponents over a number of games with a modifier for your ranking (both highest in previous season and current). I don't think it takes into account the type of deck you are playing at all.
This method of calculating MMR (WR vs opponents WR modified by ranking) ensures your MMR has a floor cap (because of the ranking modifier) and fairly accurately pits you against players of similar skill levels. However I generally find that in the lower rankings I am playing less skilled players which only propels me into the higher ranking with higher skilled opponents faster. All things considered I think its about as fair as a system can be in this type of game.
Wow, just wow. This deck is unbelievably good. It has it all, silences, board clears, burst damage, targeted removal, healing. I actually did a 30 damage OTK w/Il'gynoth. Most difficult match ups were Libram Paladin and Control Warrior everything else seemed easy.
Edit: Forgot to mention, I played this deck from Diamond 10 (no stars) to legend.
### Tempo DH
# Class: Demonhunter
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Phoenix
#
# 2x (1) Consume Magic
# 2x (1) Spirit Jailer
# 2x (1) Twin Slice
# 2x (2) Blade Dance
# 2x (2) Chaos Strike
# 2x (2) Manafeeder Panthara
# 2x (2) Soul Shear
# 2x (3) Aldrachi Warblades
# 1x (3) Relentless Pursuit
# 2x (3) Shardshatter Mystic
# 1x (4) Il'gynoth
# 1x (4) Kayn Sunfury
# 2x (4) Marrowslicer
# 2x (5) Soulshard Lapidary
# 2x (6) Bladed Lady
# 2x (6) Skull of Gul'dan
# 1x (7) Soulciologist Malicia
#
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#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
I was sitting at D5 waiting for MDF to drop. Once it hit I tried a number of decks some just updated with a few of the new cards and some completely new creations using the new set. After quite a few runs and a lot of frustration I went back to the tried and true DH Soul Frag deck. The only card in this deck from the current expansion is the Bladed Lady which essentially took the place of the Glaivebound Adept. I also dropped the Wandmakers from the original list which ran just 1 Glaivebound Adept and 1 Consume Magic. I managed a 72% WR from D5 no stars to Legend in one run on the eve of the 30th (phew, cut it close).
### Tempo DH
# Class: Demonhunter
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Phoenix
#
# 2x (1) Consume Magic
# 2x (1) Pen Flinger
# 2x (1) Spirit Jailer
# 2x (1) Twin Slice
# 2x (2) Blade Dance
# 2x (2) Chaos Strike
# 2x (2) Manafeeder Panthara
# 2x (2) Soul Shear
# 2x (3) Aldrachi Warblades
# 2x (3) Shardshatter Mystic
# 1x (4) Kayn Sunfury
# 2x (4) Marrowslicer
# 2x (5) Soulshard Lapidary
# 2x (6) Bladed Lady
# 2x (6) Skull of Gul'dan
# 1x (7) Soulciologist Malicia
#
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#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
Athletic Studies has been absolute gold in this deck. I played around with a few different configurations but the Studies simply gave me the most bang for the buck. The ability to get just the right Rush minion at a crucial time is, to me, much more valuable than a 3rd Shield of Honor (Rampage) or a 2nd Cache.
I found that Cache was often a very bad tempo play early or a dead card late and after the nerf I don't think running 2 of them is justified. This deck does not revolve around it's weapons like Bomb Warrior. I also had to cut a card to make room For Barov and the Cache was just the worst performing card in the deck.
The original deck (pre-Scholomance) only ran 2 Rampage so I look at this as a 1 for 1 replacement with Shield of Honor. I tried running Rampage over a few of the other cards but in the end I felt it was simply overkill as Shield is better in just about every situation.
That said you can cut the Studies or just run 1 of them and add a Cache or a Rampage (or 2) back in. But I really think my run was made much easier because of the Studies. Try it out and let me know if you get similar results.
From Bronze10 to Diamond5 I played my version of Soulshard Demon Hunter (63% WR) and from Diamond5 to Legend I played Enrage Warrior (76% WR)
Bronze10 to Diamond5:
### Soul Reaper DH
# Class: Demonhunter
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Phoenix
#
# 2x (1) Battlefiend
# 2x (1) Consume Magic
# 2x (1) Spirit Jailer
# 2x (1) Twin Slice
# 2x (2) Blade Dance
# 2x (2) Manafeeder Panthara
# 2x (2) Soul Shear
# 2x (3) Aldrachi Warblades
# 2x (3) Shardshatter Mystic
# 2x (4) Ashtongue Battlelord
# 1x (4) Kayn Sunfury
# 2x (4) Marrowslicer
# 2x (5) Glaivebound Adept
# 2x (5) Soulshard Lapidary
# 2x (6) Skull of Gul'dan
# 1x (7) Soulciologist Malicia
#
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#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
# Generated by HDT - https://hsreplay.net
Diamond5 to Legend:
### Enrage Warrior
# Class: Warrior
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Phoenix
#
# 2x (0) Inner Rage
# 2x (1) Athletic Studies
# 2x (1) Risky Skipper
# 2x (1) Shield of Honor
# 2x (1) Sky Raider
# 2x (2) Armorsmith
# 2x (2) Battle Rage
# 1x (2) Corsair Cache
# 1x (3) Ancharrr
# 2x (3) Bloodsworn Mercenary
# 2x (3) Bomb Wrangler
# 2x (3) Livewire Lance
# 1x (3) Lord Barov
# 2x (3) Warmaul Challenger
# 2x (4) Kor'kron Elite
# 2x (7) Bloodboil Brute
# 1x (8) Grommash Hellscream
#
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#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
# Generated by HDT - https://hsreplay.net
I essentially played 2 decks to legend this season (September).
From Bronze to D5 I mainly used a Budget Aggro Hunter (68% WR). This deck went through several revisions but here is the final version:
### Budget Aggro Hunter
# Class: Hunter
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Phoenix
#
# 2x (1) Adorable Infestation
# 2x (1) Demon Companion
# 2x (1) Dwarven Sharpshooter
# 2x (1) Intrepid Initiate
# 2x (1) Tour Guide
# 2x (1) Wolpertinger
# 2x (2) Freezing Trap
# 2x (2) Phase Stalker
# 2x (2) Pressure Plate
# 2x (2) Scavenger's Ingenuity
# 2x (2) Voracious Reader
# 2x (3) Animal Companion
# 2x (3) Eaglehorn Bow
# 2x (3) Kill Command
# 2x (4) Hyena Alpha
#
AAECAR8AD6gCtQOHBP4Mn6UDoqUD+68D/K8D/7oD3MwDm80Dos4DgtADxtEDudIDAA==
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
# Generated by HDT - https://hsreplay.net
On my final run from D5 to legend, after quite a few attempts with several other decks, I tried Soul Shard Demon Hunter. It took 27 games with 11 losses (71% WR) starting at D5 no stars. Here is the version I played:
### Soul Reaper DH
# Class: Demonhunter
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Phoenix
#
# 2x (1) Battlefiend
# 2x (1) Consume Magic
# 2x (1) Spirit Jailer
# 2x (1) Twin Slice
# 2x (2) Blade Dance
# 2x (2) Manafeeder Panthara
# 2x (2) Soul Shear
# 2x (3) Aldrachi Warblades
# 2x (3) Shardshatter Mystic
# 2x (4) Ashtongue Battlelord
# 1x (4) Kayn Sunfury
# 2x (4) Marrowslicer
# 2x (5) Glaivebound Adept
# 2x (5) Soulshard Lapidary
# 2x (6) Skull of Gul'dan
# 1x (7) Soulciologist Malicia
#
AAECAea5AwLaxgPP0gMOh7oDnLwD4LwD2cYD1MgD98gD/MgD/sgD0c0D+84DzNIDzdID1NID99UDAA==
#
# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
# Generated by HDT - https://hsreplay.net
Match Ups:
Priest: Easy, Consume Magic and burst damage is key.
Shaman: Easy, everything beats Shaman.
Warlock: Easy, self damage Warlock makes for easy games.
Demon Hunter: Easy, this version is simply better in the mirror.
Hunter: Easy, life gain, board clears and taunt simply shut aggro down.
Mage: Easy, just overwhelm them with damage.
Warrior: Toss-up, comes down to your life gain vs their bombs and their armor gain vs your damage output.
Druid: Toss-Up, sometimes they just get the nuts and ramp to Guardian Animals or bust out a Kael'thas on turn 5 and there's nothing you can do. Other games you just smorc them down. Blade Dance is key in this match up.
Rogue (Stealth/Weapon): Easy, see Hunter.
Rogue (Secret): Toss-up, really depends on how well you play around Plagiarize and if you have immediate removal/silence in hand for Hanar.
Paladin: Difficult, you have to juggle keeping their board clear, going face and hoping you have an answer for their Divine Shield, buffed, heal for 8, Taunt minion turn. Consume Magic and Kayn Sunfury are key in this match up.