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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago
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    I was very careful ALL throughout my post to say that this wasn't a salt thread and I'm not turning on the game or anything like that. I was very careful to point out that I'd be over all of this when the new expac came out and I'd be pumping lots of cash into the next expac when it drops.

    Not touching most of this argument, but just to note - an awful lot of salt-threads start with the poster claiming that it isn't a salt thread ;)

    I literally don't know what you want, dude.

     

    I admitted this is just how things get for a lot of people for this time of the year. And it's not really anything Blizzard are doing wrong, it's just how the system works. And I even said that this year is a lot better than last in a number of ways, but I'm still kinda feeling the lull to an extent. And at no point did I say or imply that's anyone's fault but my own, which is the entire reason I made this topic: I wanted to know what other people thought.

    I said I do not pin any of this on Blizzard. As mentioned earlier,  I even said this was an improvement. Not something that someone salty would say, is it?

    I said I'm looking forward to these so called "exciting" news to be presented later. Again, tell me how this is salt towards Blizzard.

    I said I'm going to continue supporting the game and will cashdump the new expansion the second it's announced. TOTALLY SOMETHING I WOULD DO IF I WAS SALTY AGAINST BLIZZARD FOR A BORING METAGAME.


    You even said it yourself, it's almost like people are supposed to feel this way near the end of rotation.

     

    In which case... I'm sorry I feel the way that you just said it's common for people to feel? Like I said, I literally don't know how I'm out of line for saying "remember how people were getting burnt out on Standard this time of year last year? Yeah. Kinda getting that now, myself. But it's no big deal, the new expac is coming in a month and all will be right with the world soon."

  • WailordKari's Avatar
    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

    No, then it simply becomes a case of "what, you're bored of Star Wars? Go watch Star Trek, then."

    Whole different thing, completely different topic.

    If I wanted to discuss issues about Star Trek, that's what I would have opened the discussion to. If I wanted to talk about Wild? Then I would have opened the discussion about Wild.

    Yes, people can have differing opinions about whether or not they're bored about Hearthstone's Standard metagame as of late February 2020. I don't really care one way or another if he is or isn't. But if he's going to be needlessly confrontational about someone being bored of the current ongoings of Standard, I don't have any problems being needlessly confrontational right back.


    Perfectly calm, by the way, you obviously haven't seen me when I'm angry.

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

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    I really don't understand the problem here.


    There isn't one? Don't put words in my mouth and say that I said there was, maybe?

    I was very careful ALL throughout my post to say that this wasn't a salt thread and I'm not turning on the game or anything like that. I was very careful to point out that I'd be over all of this when the new expac came out and I'd be pumping lots of cash into the next expac when it drops.

    I'm just experiencing the annual lull that almost everyone feels during this time of year,  and wanted to talk about it, how it compares to the slump people were feeling last year, and how, in my opinion (and I seem to be in the minority here, and that's fine, because GASP, PEOPLE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND FEELINGS ABOUT A SUBJECT!?) Galakrond's Awakening didn't do a whole lot to freshen up the meta. And maybe it wasn't supposed to, maybe I simply expected too much from a 35 card expansion.

    And I wanted to, gee whiz, talk about something relating to Hearthstone that was on my mind. On a forum dedicated to discussing Hearthstone! Not everything needs to be a huge complaint to Blizzard about how the game is broken and how I need what I want and how it's the best thing for the game and I need it RIGHT THIS MINUTE.

    Pretty sure people who have that kind of attitude towards the game aren't eager to shell out cash for the next expansion if they're dissatisfied with the game, but what the hell do I know?

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

    That other format where there's a bajillion other things I'd want to try before Baku decks?

    That other format where they barely regulate and attempt to balance?

    Wild is fun now and then but it's not always the answer for being bored of Standard.

    Also, I admit I forgot about the resurgence of Control Warrior, I guess entirely because it's still in the resurgence phase. The deck's still picking up steam and turning heads.

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

    (I say Baku because I'm pretty sure Even decks wouldn't even be a thing anymore if Genn was still in Standard. Would they? Everything that was pulling the Even decks together all rotated out anyway before the Odd/Even stuff got HoF'd and I just don't see how they'd go on without those tools. Then again, I can't say I ever tried that hard to find a way to salvage them, so the world will never know.)

    ANYWAY.

    What it says on the tin, basically. We're in that annual month-before-rotation lull we always get into and even though it shouldn't feel quite as bad as last year where so many OP cards just overstayed their welcome (and it doesn't!) I'd be lying to you if I told you I'm still finding Standard engaging. I'm not saying the Galakrond's Awakening mini-expac didn't shake things up a bit, it absolutely did and gave us a new champion in Dragon Hunter, but at the end of the day... eh. It's still all the same decks, and I'm just so desperate for some variety that I'd gladly take Odd Warrior or Paladin or Mage or whatever back.

    ...And it's weird that I expect a rotation to fix all of this, you know? As I've covered before: so many cards got shut out of the meta it barely even FEELS like we're going to rotate.

    Like, I'm 95% certain that the HOF cards are going to make a bigger impact than the actual set rotation. Barely exaggerating. Maybe a little. But not much. Depends on what they actually decide to cut, but remember folks, you heard it here first.

    But despite my lack of a reason to believe so, I do, because... this is just how it goes, we've been through this long enough that we know the routine. The game gets boring and stale right before the rotation, and poof, all of a sudden we're in a whole new world. I don't expect AS drastic of a change this year, largely because you really CAN'T get much different than going from Year of the Mammoth to the Rise of Shadows expac with no more death knights running around, but I think Blizz will come through for us, especially with all this hype from people who were at the recent summit.

    So no, this isn't a salt thread by any means. Just the usual, bored with the game around this time of year. But I already know I'll be dropping cash to complete the new Expansion on the day it comes out, so I'll try to hang in there, grind out my daily quests, and just wait for the news to motivate me a little more.

     

    How are the rest of y'all handling the rotation countdown blues? Do you agree it's a lot better this year? Do you feel Galakrond's Awakening did enough to keep the game fresh for the extra month and a half or so before the new year begins?

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

    I remember hearing that rumor for a while but after a couple of no champion level 13 vaults it looks busted to me. This might have been a beta thing? This sounds like myth that got started somewhere...

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

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    But again, how much impact will this make to hearthstone in general? Probably none at all.


    Again, I completely agree. He's just an extreme budget option. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Regardless? I don't see any reason why the option shouldn't be available for anyone who wants it.

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    But in all seriousness, there's a good reason why the argument "Hearthstone is too expensive to play/have fun with" is not easily countered with Whizbang the Wonderful. I think that suffices as a counter argument.


    And I agree with you too, my good sir. Whizbang is an extremely limited way to play the game and is no substitution for actually deckbuilding. Nor do I feel he was ever meant to be. 

    I'm certainly not proposing Whizbang as this great solution to make Hearthstone F2P for everyone, nobody will have a reason to give Blizzard money ever again! Nor do I think anybody pro-Whizbang believes he's a miracle cure or anything close to it. He's just a very affordable option to potentially give you a lot of other tools to experiment with, nothing more and nothing less. It's something that makes sense to have in the game, that's already in the game, that won't require them to change any mechanics or anything (apart from modify deck recipes, which is something they already do with each expac up to this point anyway) So... why take him out? It just doesn't make any sense to me.

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

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    Firstly, In my terribly honest opinion, Blizzard is not really a pure F2P game. When you want to play a competitive deck, you surely have to work your way to that deck, either by buying it, or work your way slowly, grinding gold from quest etc.


    I completely agree. If you want a top tier deck, you should be expected to shell out some cash for it. The game has to turn a profit somehow, it's how the world works. But here's the thing.

    Whizbang decks are frequently missing key cards and usually substitute poor versions of what pulls the archetype together. And some Whizbang decks are straight up -not even good-. It's the trade off for going a Whizbang deck. You'll have a playable deck with recent cards but it's going to be VERY unrefined. And if you want a better version of that deck? Then you pay for it.

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

    Or, if nothing else? Print an equivalent of him as a replacement for one of the Legendary cards, if Edwin or Leeroy actually do get HOF'd. Look, it would be better than nothing.

    I'm not a budget player, I'm a collector. I own every card in the game and I don't see myself slowing down on that pace anytime soon. So don't anyone make the argument that I have a personal bias here, as this change would not affect me in the slightest. But I do understand that a card like Whizbang as a permanent addition to Standard makes the game a lot more accessible for people, especially considering how much more expensive Hearthstone gets with every new set.

    There's been some talks of it around the forums here and there, but never anything serious. With rotation season growing closer and closer, I think we as a community really need to make a big push to Blizzard about this and see where it gets us. Now or never, you know?

    #WhizbangIsWonderful

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

    I don't even think there's anything you really want to hit with Sylvanas's scheme in Standard right now. Unless I'm missing something?

    I guess Kobold Sandtrooper and Leper Gnome are obvious hits, but...

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

    The thing is if this could only target minions, then it's just Hagatha's scheme but a lot worse. I get that the design is a bit edgy, but I was trying to think of what hadn't been done yet with Schemes and what else could be, and face damage is what I came up with.

    As for the watermark... I forgot to change it, and that it was even there. I haven't used a cardmaker in a while. :P

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

    Ehhh... think this should cost more?

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

    You do realize that change was COMPLETELY unrelated to the point you attempted (and failed miserably) at making?

    Expeditions were hit. They changed how normal wins work to compensate for that. It's probably a healthier approach since we're going to get to a point eventually where not everyone can just do 3 expeditions a week and get by like that. And that's... literally it. It has nothing to do with this topic. At all.


    But by all means, keep living in your delusions where your comments actually make sense, I would hate to take that away from you.

    EDIT: Good lord, you even saw fit to edit the patch notes that do nothing to address the point you failed to make in the first post.

    Were you on Kitchen Nightmares? That's the only other place I've ever seen this level of delusion.

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

    Look, I could probably build a deck to get this done a lot faster. But isn't this just a LITTLE bit insane?

    With how they recently reworked daily quests to be a lot easier, for the most part, why in the world sneak this one in?

    I'm not saying it's impossible, far for it, but for only 50g, this is a REALLY tedious quest, and something you really have to go out of your way to build a deck around. I really think we could cut the number down on this one to something a lot more reasonable, like... even 30, I could accept.

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

    Don't know, don't care.

    All I know is I'm glad I can appreciate the League cast in a way that doesn't make me want to bash my head against the wall now.

    In a hella cool card game, too.

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

    Okay, I'm in the wrong here, that's a much clearer depiction of what I'm supposed to be looking at.

     

    Things like these happen when you've been permabanned from League for years.

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

    There's definitely a problem in the way it interacts with certain cards, it just creates really overwhelming things. If you Ghost something, it can copy the Elusive off of that. I'll let you figure out how that can be problematic.

    Copying the stats off things is fine, but I REALLY don't think it should be copying certain keywords... or at least, not ones granted artificially.

    In reply to Dusk and Dawn OOPPPP
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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

    Well, if it helps the research any, I got a Demacia and Shadow Isles champion quest. I played a Garen, my opponent played an Elise.

    After the match was finished, no credit towards the quest was awarded.

     

    So figure that out.

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

    Scuttlegeist

    It sure looks like one. It even synergizes with Spider synergy (chump tokens that die so you can play a 5/5 on the cheap). So why isn't it? Is it because it's a Ghost Spider? I know this sounds like another Ghostly Charger debate but this one actually seems significant, I can understand if it's just a gameplay balance thing because this card would actually be significantly better as a Spider (whereas for Ghostly Charger, it really doesn't matter either way, Beast Tag does nothing for Paladin) but in that case, couldn't they just replace the art with something blatantly less spidery? It just seems to cause a lot of confusion.

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    145 61 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 1 month ago

    I can't see Dr. Boom, Mad Genius seeing play at 7 mana in -Standard- if they un-nerfed him right this minute, what does THAT tell you?

    Powercreep happened so hard over the year, it's actually insane how many formerly OP cards got shut out of the meta. It almost doesn't even feel like we're about to rotate because of how much stuff got left behind in the dust, figuratively and literally for those who take refunds on cards that don't get played!

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