In the Goblin Vs. Gnomes game board you forgot to mention how you can open the furnace door and if you do it enough times a spark will ignite the fireworks. Sometimes you can only get one side or the other to go off but sometimes you get both sides to go.
There are some other fun game boards out there but GvG is my favorite still.
You haven't convinced me that there is a problem here (...)
The problem: Let's assume that I am at rank 4 now. It's a matter of months before I reach Rank 20 through careful planning of my win/loss ratio, dropping 4 ranks at a time. Then I lose some more by conceding, to adjust my MMR accordingly, only to be matched against the poor souls who happened to be naive and ascend to the Rank 20 floor. My strat now is to win one match and concede the next or two and guess what; my MMR is low enough to be matched against those "Mark of Hakkar" players that are kind enough to greet me when they see me and are a delight to play against! On top of that, I farm gold faster than having to win an Archivist Elysiana mirror match! Only when I see another player like me (trust me when I say that they are easy to spot) I concede, but only if I was slow enough to press the concede button before they did. You would be surprised to learn that it actually hurts me more to win against those better win-rate guys, so I have learned how to concede in a blink of the eye (at the moment just before I hear the name of my hero, if taking reaction time into consideration)! What I've learned through this process: I'm actually better at assessing the correct match for me than the Hearthstone matchmaking algorithm!
The problem I have is
A) You don't know the circumstances for each individual. What if someone really loves this game and bought a bunch of cards so they could craft a tier 1 or 2 deck but they are still just starting out so they aren't that good with it yet and their low rank is deserved?
2) Your original postulation that this was an issue was based on the appearance of gold heroes which was pointed out several times is not connected to ability but time as well as the fact that we have two different cards in the game now that when used give you a golden hero and a golden deck.
Z) I just don't see actual data to back up your original assessment that this is a huge problem for the game. I am sure it happens to a small degree but it is definitely not something that I think people run into on a really regular basis. This is like when people whine about a particular card or deck because they ran into it a bunch but the actual data in the background doesn't back up their assertion that it is everywhere and overrunning the game.
These cards will disappear from each player's collection after the event ends (source)
Thanks for the source on that. Super lame. Also super lame how people are so attached to the feeling of obtaining stuff being dependent on others not having it. I don't care if they give out free cards even if they are cards I already own. I want more people to play more variety of formats it is good for the game.
I am excited for these free cards. I hope we get to keep them. I don't even care about overlap with ones I already crafted. It will boost peoples ability to play wild which is awesome. I really hope Sylvanas is coming back. One of my favorite cards I was super sad when she was HOF'd would go great with N'Zoth coming back too. This is going to be a fun event. I never crafted Ragnaros because I didn't have enough dust when he was in standard and don't play big priest in wild so it will be fun to play with him too.
60g always rerolls into 50g... I suppose I am never rerolling 60 even more so now...
Yeah this change has me disappointed. I like to reroll quests to see if I can get even better ones. I know the odds are low but I wish they didn't make this change.
I convinced a friend of mine to start playing Hearthstone some time ago and for the moment he prefers being Free-to-Play. He plays a basic mage deck and with my "help" we managed to get to rank 17. He is not new to cards games (we played MTG together) so he has a good understanding of the mechanics and such.
The problem is that as he gets a lot of wins, the algorithm matches him now with golden-portrait players with all-golden decks etc. He couldn't reach his Rank 15 goal, so I advised him to farm a bit in lower ranks, since he wishes to remain F2P for the time being. The problem actually got even worse at bottom ranks. Golden players farm wins and gold at these ranks apparently and ruin the experience for newer players. How are they going to love this game which treats them without respect? Would any of them stay or spend money to get bullied by dudes like them (trust me some of them are really toxic)? I do understand that as people play the game for longer and the skill cap of players get higher, we are going to see more and more of this.
Anyways, I believe that if anyone has been to Rank Legend or has over a certain amount of wins (1500+ wins lets say), the game should not let them drop under rank 15. Maybe if some of them have returned after a long time, there could be some "outs" for them. What do you think of this? If you were new to Hearthstone, would you invest any time, effort or money in a try-hard-looking, overpriced game like this?
Golden heroes are a product of time commitment not ability to play. I have one golden hero but have never gotten past rank 5. I also have met many gold hero players that make super shitty plays and I beat them easily.
Not saying that you are wrong about how match making works I am just pointing out that you are harping on people with golden heroes when that isn't the real issue. It is just easy to see so that is what you latch on to.
When I played him just now, only 1 card showed up each time I had to "guess" which card he was about to play. For each turn. Which meant he wasn't able to play a single card before he died at turn 7.
Seems like a bug (and a pretty big one since it meant effectively an auto-victory for me) so curious if that happened to others as well?
When I played him it wasn't one card each time but it was two and he played both cards anyway so either way I would have guessed correctly. This meant all I had to do was pick the stronger or higher cost card and I won easily and quickly.
The solo content for heist was amazing and fun. I was really happy with it regardless of the rewards. I pre-ordered the next one as the pre-order price was the same as the cost last time but came with a bonus. I don't buy packs ever in this game the only thing I pay for is solo content which is only about $40 a year so I am ok with that.
Haha this is what would happen to me if I played that deck. Every time! I do agree that discounted cards interact poorly with cards that take their cost into effect once in play. This has been a problem in several cases and while the Shaman deck isn't tier 1 it is one of those situations where high rolling into a Gruul on turn 4 for example just feels bad to play against. In a game where fun is the goal unfun plays are a big problem often more important to fix than really powerful decks. For example see Big Priest in wild which is not a t1 deck but is just really unfun to play against while a lot of the other t1 wild decks are more fun to play against
On the bright side they have adjusted Zephrys in the past so hopefully they adjust it again in the future to account for fatigue and to continue to get it to consider more deathrattle cards. It seems like they want to keep improving the coding of the card to make it give better choices.
The randomly generated deck consists out of cards from the adventure buckets, which will result in some synergy. In your opening hand you get a 0 mana wish spell, which will have Zephyr's effect, but without the body. If you play the first wish, a second wish will be shuffled in.
Priest seems to be a bad class, Hunter and Mage seem good.
The only time that priest worked great for me was when I used my wish then found the wish in my deck with Shadow Visions the very next turn.
Yeah, you're right there. I hope you can still get some good use out of him, since I assume you won't disenchant. I unpacked him myself, and will keep him because of the no duplicate rule.
It is important to note too that I am not mad and I think this change is a brilliant way to bring down the power level of some cards without destroying them. It also hit multiple issue areas with one change.
I am sure I will still use armagedillo somewhere. Just might not recraft Dr. Boom like I thought and play control warrior. Maybe I will build a for fun taunt warrior deck.
I was curious about the discover mechanic and Flunky. It discovered Armagedillo so much. I guess this is a good change for the game but I am sad I won't get to drop 3 Armagedillo's in a single game anymore.
Not being able to drop 3 Armagedillo's in a game in healthy for the game.
Judging by the downvote people don't realize that I know that it is healthy for the game and I don't hold it against them. It is actually quite a smart fix to tone down some very powerful cards with one change rather than changing each card. I think it is a great change overall. I just will miss overpowered shenanigans.
Just to be clear: This was the right thing to do and I am glad they did it. It is better for the game and it is a great way to bring down the power of several cards without destroying them. I just personally feel sad by the change because I had fun with some of the craziness from weighted discover pools.
Owning Armagedillo doesn't affect this. The nerf is to cards that can discover Armagedillo, like Frightened Flunky.
The viability of the main deck that armagedillo is used in is considerably hindered by the fact that Armagedillo itself will not show up as much in the discover mechanic from Flunky. It doesn't affect Armagedillo directly but it affects the deck that armagedillo is used in and therefore the value of crafting armagedillo. I have enough dust and decks that this won't be that big of a deal in the long run and I am not crying for a dust refund. I am however lamenting the fact that I crafted armagedillo only to have its usefulness diminished.
I am a little bummed I crafted Armagedillo now. Would be nice to get a dust refund on it but not the end of the world without. It is going to have a huge impact though. The deck will be much less consistent.
I was curious about the discover mechanic and Flunky. It discovered Armagedillo so much. I guess this is a good change for the game but I am sad I won't get to drop 3 Armagedillo's in a single game anymore.
I just noticed that the various quest cards have not been updated yet with their associated hero powers or cards they give. Can those be updated with the "related cards" section too please?
Yeah, some stuff is marked in a not obvious way in the client, so it didnt get proper updates, we will fix these things manually, so feel free to point them out.
Thanks! I really appreciate all the hard work that is going into this site. It is filling out really nicely and the work shows. The only ones I have noticed so far is all the current quests and old quests. Is it best to pm a mod or post in a thread like this if I find something missing
I see you already found the thread where we collect this info, so yeah, post it there, thanks! :)
Yeah that thread was made after I asked the question so once I noticed it I started posting there. It takes a village to make a website great so we all have to do our part. I appreciate the report button too. There was a dude spamming "cool" on tons of threads the other day just to achievement hunt and I was wishing I could report him.
In the Goblin Vs. Gnomes game board you forgot to mention how you can open the furnace door and if you do it enough times a spark will ignite the fireworks. Sometimes you can only get one side or the other to go off but sometimes you get both sides to go.
There are some other fun game boards out there but GvG is my favorite still.
The problem I have is
A) You don't know the circumstances for each individual. What if someone really loves this game and bought a bunch of cards so they could craft a tier 1 or 2 deck but they are still just starting out so they aren't that good with it yet and their low rank is deserved?
2) Your original postulation that this was an issue was based on the appearance of gold heroes which was pointed out several times is not connected to ability but time as well as the fact that we have two different cards in the game now that when used give you a golden hero and a golden deck.
Z) I just don't see actual data to back up your original assessment that this is a huge problem for the game. I am sure it happens to a small degree but it is definitely not something that I think people run into on a really regular basis. This is like when people whine about a particular card or deck because they ran into it a bunch but the actual data in the background doesn't back up their assertion that it is everywhere and overrunning the game.
Thanks for the source on that. Super lame. Also super lame how people are so attached to the feeling of obtaining stuff being dependent on others not having it. I don't care if they give out free cards even if they are cards I already own. I want more people to play more variety of formats it is good for the game.
I am excited for these free cards. I hope we get to keep them. I don't even care about overlap with ones I already crafted. It will boost peoples ability to play wild which is awesome. I really hope Sylvanas is coming back. One of my favorite cards I was super sad when she was HOF'd would go great with N'Zoth coming back too. This is going to be a fun event. I never crafted Ragnaros because I didn't have enough dust when he was in standard and don't play big priest in wild so it will be fun to play with him too.
Yeah this change has me disappointed. I like to reroll quests to see if I can get even better ones. I know the odds are low but I wish they didn't make this change.
Golden hero's with all golden decks could also be playing the cloak thingy. That also gives you a random deck with all golden cards and a golden hero.
Golden heroes are a product of time commitment not ability to play. I have one golden hero but have never gotten past rank 5. I also have met many gold hero players that make super shitty plays and I beat them easily.
Not saying that you are wrong about how match making works I am just pointing out that you are harping on people with golden heroes when that isn't the real issue. It is just easy to see so that is what you latch on to.
When I played him it wasn't one card each time but it was two and he played both cards anyway so either way I would have guessed correctly. This meant all I had to do was pick the stronger or higher cost card and I won easily and quickly.
I have not been able to get Jr. Tomb Diver to work yet but I want to so badly. It seems like a fun card but ends up a 4 mana 5/5 instead.
Thanks this was a quick and easy win with this deck. Ridiculously powerful in this format.
The solo content for heist was amazing and fun. I was really happy with it regardless of the rewards. I pre-ordered the next one as the pre-order price was the same as the cost last time but came with a bonus. I don't buy packs ever in this game the only thing I pay for is solo content which is only about $40 a year so I am ok with that.
Haha this is what would happen to me if I played that deck. Every time! I do agree that discounted cards interact poorly with cards that take their cost into effect once in play. This has been a problem in several cases and while the Shaman deck isn't tier 1 it is one of those situations where high rolling into a Gruul on turn 4 for example just feels bad to play against. In a game where fun is the goal unfun plays are a big problem often more important to fix than really powerful decks. For example see Big Priest in wild which is not a t1 deck but is just really unfun to play against while a lot of the other t1 wild decks are more fun to play against
On the bright side they have adjusted Zephrys in the past so hopefully they adjust it again in the future to account for fatigue and to continue to get it to consider more deathrattle cards. It seems like they want to keep improving the coding of the card to make it give better choices.
The only time that priest worked great for me was when I used my wish then found the wish in my deck with Shadow Visions the very next turn.
It is important to note too that I am not mad and I think this change is a brilliant way to bring down the power level of some cards without destroying them. It also hit multiple issue areas with one change.
I am sure I will still use armagedillo somewhere. Just might not recraft Dr. Boom like I thought and play control warrior. Maybe I will build a for fun taunt warrior deck.
Judging by the downvote people don't realize that I know that it is healthy for the game and I don't hold it against them. It is actually quite a smart fix to tone down some very powerful cards with one change rather than changing each card. I think it is a great change overall. I just will miss overpowered shenanigans.
Just to be clear: This was the right thing to do and I am glad they did it. It is better for the game and it is a great way to bring down the power of several cards without destroying them. I just personally feel sad by the change because I had fun with some of the craziness from weighted discover pools.
The viability of the main deck that armagedillo is used in is considerably hindered by the fact that Armagedillo itself will not show up as much in the discover mechanic from Flunky. It doesn't affect Armagedillo directly but it affects the deck that armagedillo is used in and therefore the value of crafting armagedillo. I have enough dust and decks that this won't be that big of a deal in the long run and I am not crying for a dust refund. I am however lamenting the fact that I crafted armagedillo only to have its usefulness diminished.
I am a little bummed I crafted Armagedillo now. Would be nice to get a dust refund on it but not the end of the world without. It is going to have a huge impact though. The deck will be much less consistent.
I was curious about the discover mechanic and Flunky. It discovered Armagedillo so much. I guess this is a good change for the game but I am sad I won't get to drop 3 Armagedillo's in a single game anymore.
Yeah that thread was made after I asked the question so once I noticed it I started posting there. It takes a village to make a website great so we all have to do our part. I appreciate the report button too. There was a dude spamming "cool" on tons of threads the other day just to achievement hunt and I was wishing I could report him.