The fact that death knight is getting some major changes is the step in the right direction, because I think team5 suspects (correctly) that there wouldn't be any real changes in the gameplay pattern, card choices, or overall effectiveness of the class simply because of how the rune system works (Frost Queen Sindragosa still remains impossible to play etc.) and how discover works overall in that class.
If I were to guess, team5 would probably make it impossible to discover cards outside of the deck runes, and make certain cards like Frostwyrm's Fury no longer up for discovers.
1issue with onyl discovering runes of same type as your deck, it makes getitng the best cards even more consistent.
Blood would get way more Vampiric Blood, or frost way more Frostwyrms fury.
Which is a buff, theyd rather loose occasional Scourge or such for getting way more consistent acces to their own runes.
Id guess theyd remove triple runes from being discovered, over limiting to same runes.
Even if remove vampiric and frostwyrms from discover alongside same rune only change, they still get way more consistent.
Blood would just get way more removal, frost just more burn
I hated playing vs pilllager, but card got warsonged So cant exactly call that a good or amazing nerf
Its now a super crappy version of prize plunder , or crappy flik/vilespine/bootstrap.
Cataclysm is actully playable in non discard decks now, and parrot is also still usable
So really wish this was like 3 mana 3/3 for the reworked/changed effect,would fit with other 2 being vs Being warsonged.
I do want wild to get more changes, but i do not hope to see other cards get warsong treatment (after say dont want to/intent to kill decks, yet do a warsong lvl nuke and be forever deleted from excisting just like patron back in day with warsong commander.
Just hope this doesnt set a bad presidence for other stuff in wild being warsonge esqpcially when nerf can be made and have card/deck stilll be functioable but weaker
Which if they do that; im not touching standard at all that year.
Ive hated guff since he came out (personaly i want him gutted, not even just rotated out as i dont think increasing max mana cap shouldve ever been thing in first place)
but wanted the skin (which I'd prefer just been able to pay 1k gold for)
Did unholy DK, went 3/3
Wasn't a fun experience at all, even more so with gold on line.
It also really shows what I dislike/hate about more modern HS/current game direction. The 3 games I won I had necromancer on 2 that opponent didn't have immediate answer to, the 3 games I didn't have that basically nothing else mattered in outcome of the games in comparison at least.
Wouldn't Recommend it at all, but I just didn't want to loose the chance at the only female DK skin (and blood elf DK is what I used to main in wow back when I played it still)
Its a scam, and not a fun/casual experience for everyone. In fact its the exact opposite of that, which isn't what tavern brawl is for.
For those ppl who actually want to read English :)
Not trying to be mean dude but your typos are getting on my nerves. This site has spell check.
Sorry English isnt my first/native language, and the spell check flags almost evry single word.
Even with correct spelling. In Quote you corrected and your own post, when im writing this here. It still flags almost evry single word
Ive been playing since the game first came out, and as far i renember there was always loads of negative feedback and people calling out blizzard on HC brawl being a scam but they always kept on doing it and not changing anything.
And since mini-sets became a thing theyve been doing it more frequently then ever before HC brawls
No free tickets either, which they did like the first time we had a wild HC brawl then never ever again for any HC brawl be standard or wild.
LIke only postive feedback i can renember has basicly been of pro's/streamers who are essentially paid to do it so loosing gold/money is not a concern whatsoever, or ones that just like dumping on new/bad uninformed players for easy wins.
With anything else being hate/dislike and we still getting them so i dont think they will really change/do anything at all.
Though they did chance skin from 3wins in 1run to 3 total and for once still gave a free pack, still dont see it happening.
But suspose anything is possible and certainly hope they do atleast keep a regular brawl.
Though If was for me to decide/control id want it to never be a HC brawl again but thats personal thing.
Would aslo like them to show the rewards ingame , but since theyre so bad for majority i know why they wouldnt want that.
And im just really glad i was able to get it in a single run cause it was to stressfull to keep doing that and still will have the gold for the mini set once it comes.
HS and especially tavern brawl is my relaxation (also why i dont generly go for legend pushing)
but wanted the skin (which id prefer just been able to pay 1k gold for)
Did unholy DK, went 3/3
Wasnt a fun experience at all, even more so with gold on line.
It also really shows what i dislike/hate about more modern hs/current game direction. The 3 games i won i had necromancer on 2 that oponent dint have imeadte asnwer to, the 3 games i dint have that basicly nothing else mattered in outcome of the games in comparison atleast.
Wouldnt Recomend it at all, but i just dint want to loose chance at onyl female Dk skin (and belf dk is what i used to main in wow back when i played it still)
Its a scam, and not a fun/casual experience for evryone. Infatc its the exact oppisite of that, which isnt what tavern brawl is for.
Battlefield Necromancer would probably spawn a 1/2 that gives a corpse back when it dies. Or it gets reduced to 1 rune, which is fine. Not sure what they intend to do with Unholy Frenzy however. 2 mana, likely.
Dounbt, the risen will give a corpse.
Thats entire point of the risen Tokens (evry single one), they dont give a corpse.
Thatd be changing entire mechanic essnetialy for 1card, when could just as easly buff the token's stats by 1point, not change the text/mechanic of a card. Which is what they prefer doing.
I am baitd, but i do have tons of gold and already spent some gold on buying cosmetics anyway, so it isn't different from that for me, but damn can't skip it this time around because i also really want that portrait
If this skin was guaranteed (play in hc brawl, get the skin)
i wouldnt mind it to much, but its far from guaranteed (even the best players can still lose due some bad rng/draws or poor machups) and then you just wasted 10 bucks/1000 gold for NOTHING.
I dont mind paying for cosmetics, aslong im actully guaranteed to get them, but this is not guaranteed and its aslo time limoted.
As someone who wants a female Death Knight skin, this is an especially low-blow. I just know they'll use this as their excuse not to make another one :(
Edit: I've seen the skin, and I don't like it. I guess I feel better?
I actully like the skin, so it makes it even worse for me...
Oh god, there's gonna be a 3B handbuff card, isn't there? That's not what I was advertised, and it's bumming me out. I'll probably end up playing it anyway, but I'm not super duper excited like I was before these reveals.
imagine if 3blood legendary ends up handbuff and not controll
1issue with onyl discovering runes of same type as your deck, it makes getitng the best cards even more consistent.
Blood would get way more Vampiric Blood, or frost way more Frostwyrms fury.
Which is a buff, theyd rather loose occasional Scourge or such for getting way more consistent acces to their own runes.
Id guess theyd remove triple runes from being discovered, over limiting to same runes.
Even if remove vampiric and frostwyrms from discover alongside same rune only change, they still get way more consistent.
Blood would just get way more removal, frost just more burn
I hated playing vs pilllager, but card got warsonged So cant exactly call that a good or amazing nerf
Its now a super crappy version of prize plunder , or crappy flik/vilespine/bootstrap.
Cataclysm is actully playable in non discard decks now, and parrot is also still usable
So really wish this was like 3 mana 3/3 for the reworked/changed effect,would fit with other 2 being vs Being warsonged.
I do want wild to get more changes, but i do not hope to see other cards get warsong treatment (after say dont want to/intent to kill decks, yet do a warsong lvl nuke and be forever deleted from excisting just like patron back in day with warsong commander.
Just hope this doesnt set a bad presidence for other stuff in wild being warsonge esqpcially when nerf can be made and have card/deck stilll be functioable but weaker
Big priests graveyard isnt changing certainyl not a nerf patch ever.
IF it ever happens its gonna be a expansion/year launch with big rework of game.
But are other ways they could touch it, like to illuminate to holy only for effect so more turn 2/3 neptulons/bloods.
Dont see them changing stats of location at all
it shares token with dark transformation and that isnt in picture here.
So its text, cost or durablity or a mix of those.
Bird is easy making or 6 or more vs 5 or more, keeps it for big spell mage. Stops the easy infinite turns.
or they avoid nerfing it (the problematic card) and rather go for evrything else around it.
Wouldnt be first time
They have made bad/dumb decisions before
But if no way to inrease max mana, or atleast not in first expac at launch.
That blow anything else out of the water for how dumb thing that would be to do.
So really has to be new way/guff in core.
Or else i dont thnk anyone would have any trust in their design decisions anymore like ever at all.
or guff in core...
Which if they do that; im not touching standard at all that year.
Ive hated guff since he came out (personaly i want him gutted, not even just rotated out as i dont think increasing max mana cap shouldve ever been thing in first place)
Sindragosa i think is a good card held back/in check (whatever you prefer) by needing 2 diffrent runes.
While less face dmg in end then crabatoa, it does just kill any minion with its wings unlike crabatoa which is 4dmg.
ANd if lives or got enough mana (or just get with horn of winter) you can clear more with your other freeze cards
next week and then week after it releases if go by previous mini sets that also had a heroic brawl.
What would you even want / create for a competitive environment for more average / Casual player ?
Tournament mode? whatever that would even be like.
And for the Twitch stars, alot of those dont like the Heroic Brawl Either or way game is directed , so like for who is it even then anyway ?
Sorry English isnt my first/native language, and the spell check flags almost evry single word.
Even with correct spelling. In Quote you corrected and your own post, when im writing this here. It still flags almost evry single word
Ive been playing since the game first came out, and as far i renember there was always loads of negative feedback and people calling out blizzard on HC brawl being a scam but they always kept on doing it and not changing anything.
And since mini-sets became a thing theyve been doing it more frequently then ever before HC brawls
No free tickets either, which they did like the first time we had a wild HC brawl then never ever again for any HC brawl be standard or wild.
LIke only postive feedback i can renember has basicly been of pro's/streamers who are essentially paid to do it so loosing gold/money is not a concern whatsoever, or ones that just like dumping on new/bad uninformed players for easy wins.
With anything else being hate/dislike and we still getting them so i dont think they will really change/do anything at all.
Though they did chance skin from 3wins in 1run to 3 total and for once still gave a free pack, still dont see it happening.
But suspose anything is possible and certainly hope they do atleast keep a regular brawl.
Though If was for me to decide/control id want it to never be a HC brawl again but thats personal thing.
Would aslo like them to show the rewards ingame , but since theyre so bad for majority i know why they wouldnt want that.
And im just really glad i was able to get it in a single run cause it was to stressfull to keep doing that and still will have the gold for the mini set once it comes.
HS and especially tavern brawl is my relaxation (also why i dont generly go for legend pushing)
Normally i NEVER play hc brawl
but wanted the skin (which id prefer just been able to pay 1k gold for)
Did unholy DK, went 3/3
Wasnt a fun experience at all, even more so with gold on line.
It also really shows what i dislike/hate about more modern hs/current game direction.
The 3 games i won i had necromancer on 2 that oponent dint have imeadte asnwer to, the 3 games i dint have that basicly nothing else mattered in outcome of the games in comparison atleast.
Wouldnt Recomend it at all, but i just dint want to loose chance at onyl female Dk skin (and belf dk is what i used to main in wow back when i played it still)
Its a scam, and not a fun/casual experience for evryone. Infatc its the exact oppisite of that, which isnt what tavern brawl is for.
Dounbt, the risen will give a corpse.
Thats entire point of the risen Tokens (evry single one), they dont give a corpse.
Thatd be changing entire mechanic essnetialy for 1card, when could just as easly buff the token's stats by 1point, not change the text/mechanic of a card. Which is what they prefer doing.
Simple/easier changes
If this skin was guaranteed (play in hc brawl, get the skin)
i wouldnt mind it to much, but its far from guaranteed (even the best players can still lose due some bad rng/draws or poor machups) and then you just wasted 10 bucks/1000 gold for NOTHING.
I dont mind paying for cosmetics, aslong im actully guaranteed to get them, but this is not guaranteed and its aslo time limoted.
I actully like the skin, so it makes it even worse for me...
I hate heroic Brawl enough without it
I really hate them locking a skin behind heroic brawl (aka scam brawl)
even for DK which has like NO options at all
And i dont even mind paying for cosmetics, but id want them guaranteed. Not pay us for a CHANCE at a skin
Paying for a Chance at a Time Limiteed skin is such a shityt thing to do
imagine if 3blood legendary ends up handbuff and not controll
Corrupted ashbringer as a common feels odd.
Also prollt not very good could defneitly be 5 mana or 6 attack or something extra for THE corrupted ashbringer