After a long time, the Heroic Brawliseum is back in the tavern, and with it all the wonderful rewards that only the bravest players will be able to claim. Although the entry cost is quite high (1000 Gold for a ticket), the rewards get exponentially better as you progress through each match.
Speaking of rewards, here is the breakdown of what each score will grant you:
- In order for you to not "lose" your Gold, you'll need to reach at least 5 wins.
- 1 Dust is roughly 1 Gold, a pack is 100 Gold.
- There's a big jump in rewards between 8 and 9 wins - 7 more packs for those who get there!
- In addition to packs, dust and gold, 10+ wins will give you Golden Legendary cards.
While these rewards are obviously very tempting, we understand that not many players can afford to throw away 1000 Gold without a solid strategy at their disposal, especially since we received a large balance patch not too long ago.
For this reason, we contacted multiple streamers, who will be playing this edition of Heroic Brawliseum and will be sharing their decklists with our community!
Hey, you! If you achieved any remarkable results in this Heroic Brawliseum, make sure to contact us: we'll showcase your results in a community-dedicated section!
Languagehacker
Languagehacker is a pro player already used to the "12 wins, 3 losses" format, as he has achieved multiple Arena leaderboard finishers in the past. Definitely someone you want to keep an eye open on.
PocketTrain
Another very skilled player (#8 Legend on EU last season and currently #1) is currently playing this Heroic Brawl. Join PocketTrain as they try to reach 12 wins.
SidisiTV
The Hunter master, Sidisi sits on their 13000+ Hunter wins as they show us how to pilot Rexxar decks in this hellish brawl. They'll start with the Big Beast Hunter you see below, but if you want them to try some ideas you have in mind, make sure to visit their stream - who knows, you may be lucky!
DenimBlue7
DenimBlue7 is a high-Legend streamer all the way from Germany. Don't let the language barrier discourage you - hop in and watch the stream as they progress through each match.
Other 12-Wins Decks
The streamers we mentioned aren't the only ones achieving great results in this Heroic Brawliseum - there are plenty other players out there hitting those rewarding 12-win runs!
Hunter
Paladin
Priest
Rogue
Shaman
Good luck to everyone joining the fight for the Heroic Brawliseum!
Comments
Naaah, thanks.
I really hope Team 5 look at the stats on how many players entered this brawl compared to other brawls. Ofc they will be lower overall due to the high entrance fee, but I hope with our loud community, they get the message and retire this brawl in favor of the standard brawliseum
Regular Brawliseum usually has a free ticket, so its accessibility is way higher than the Heroic version.
Id rather not even do regular, or keep a normal/Actual brawl alongside it.
If i want to play constructed il play ranked/regular HS, brawl is for things that arent possible/feasible in regular HS, not just constructed gameplay you gotta pay for.
It's nice seeing so much love for the normal brawl. Normally it's just complaining there's no new brawl so nice to see there's actually people enjoying it every week.
I honestly dont know why team5 brought this back. Probably to score some extra gold off its players, but how many ordinary mortals are actually playing this mode anyway? You'd probably be facing top 100 legends at every tier, all of them playing at very high levels so you'd probably not even get past 3 wins. Even if you somehow got to 7 wins, you're still only getting 250 gold back along with 7 packs so technically the rewards are even worse than ordinary arena wins at 7.
Of course, more importantly, this thing screwed us off 1 pack this week, not to mention a brawl that may or may not be the easiest way to finish quests in.
I don’t get all the negativity. Sure, you miss out on a standard pack once a year or so but it’s an interesting event to follow imo. Really intriguing to watch these high stakes games on twitch.
Many other brawls are once and done - so it’s not as if you would miss out on a lot of gameplay when you skip this weeks brawl.
Maybe they could have activated twitch drops for people that stream their heroic brawls to counter the economic complaint .
Missing out on a standard pack don't bother me much today, but I remember a time when even a mere pack meant a great deal, and it would be unfair to minimize the loss of a pack and what it would meant to many at the bottom.
There's also the fact that brawls, for good or ill, are honestly easy ways to finish up quests with. That win 5 games on duels/brawls/arena aren't necessarily easy to clear off if you dont have a good collection and brawls, especially the non-constructive ones, are convenient areas to mindlessly finish off that tedium.
But more importantly, I disagree that this is in any way an interesting event. I'd watch streamers play with or without the brawl and in no way does it ever changes anything because there's really no difference between this and just plain standard. And since most streamers already have all the cards anyway, plus a ton of gold which they don't need, where exactly is all this excitement coming from?
It may be a subjective matter on how much excitement this brawl generates from person to person, but objectively I think I can say that its doing the majority of players no favors at all. Of course, team5 can easily just give us a pack as compensation...and that's where I start laughing.
I get that. And I obviously represent a less popular opinion. I still argue that the counter arguments are purely resource related.
Having difficulties completing a specific weekly quest that can be rerolled 7 times is definitely a very minor inconvenience.
The gameplay might be identical to high end legend, it still motivated me to watch a couple runs on twitch - something I do for no other brawl.
And the stakes do matter in this scenario. The same they would matter in a pro poker tournament where everyone on the table is a multi millionaire.
Now, will people waste resources that they can’t afford because of the high gambling incentive? Probably. And that’s a bigger issue to me than all the others.
I’m cynical about it because it feels predatory. The people who hang out on Hearthstone message boards may not be big Tavern Brawl fans, but a lot of casual players do enjoy it. When they see a big exciting splash screen that says “Your favorite F2P mode has an event with big rewards this week!”, I worry that a lot of them will sign up before they figure out the details.
At last year’s Brawliseum, I heard people who joined saying that a lot of their opponents were simply BAD players. They didn’t even have reasonable meta decks, and weren’t playing them with skill. Hearthstone tricked them out of 1000 gold with big promises.
Hearthstone can be expensive, but I usually hold it up as a model F2P game that avoids tricks and makes it clear what you’re getting fo your money. This event is an argument against that, though.
Edit: If the Brawliseum was a special event in Arena or a one-off mode, and it wasn’t presented as a Tavern Brawl event, I would be ok with it. I think most other people would be, too.
I don't understand why the rewards are so bad though (the payout is about 70% of the dust value put in). Even if the payout were 100% or slightly above, the event would still be a net win for Blizzard, as players would be converting real money and gold into cards, which is the whole point of the Hearthstone economy.
But basically if you are F2P or don't have 60% winrate in high legend definitely don't play this scam
Your remark made me curious about what winrate you need to break even, so I made a little program to compute the chance distribution of total wins for 30%-70% winrate:
It seems you actually need a bit over 60% winrate to have a >50% chance of 5 wins, which is when the rewards are worth more than the cost.
This is assuming that your win rate is going to be consistent across all matches, which isn't realistic, since I expect opponents will be matched on win/loss count like Arena and Duels. So as a run progresses, your winrate should come closer to 50%. However, I don't expect this effect to be as strong for the first half of the run, where you're trying to get to 5 wins.
True, but i am accouting for the unknowing scrubs giving first couple of wins before you start facing pros
The "actually" was more in response to myself thinking "60%, is it really that bad?" and it turned out to be even worse (slightly). Your estimate was pretty accurate.
The rewards do not get "exponentially" better. In fact, the increase is the most trivial flavor of linear until you get your ninth win.
Was the entry always so expensive? I remember it being the cost of an arena entry. I also remember getting a free entry too?
There are 2 versions of brawliseum.
Heroic is 1000 gold scam
Normal is 150 gold with same reward system as arena.
This week we got the scam version, so rip anyone who wanted a free pack
Marvellous, where is my pack?
I have bad news for you sir.