Can Zephrys the Great tell if you're in fatigue?

Submitted 4 years, 7 months ago by

I know it only looks at public information, but the number of cards remaining in my deck is public, right?

Because when I'm facing an opponent with 10 cards left and I have 0 cards left and an empty board, what would be perfect would be Archivist Elysiana. Or even a Baleful Banker. Or Spirit of the Dead. Or Togwaggle's Scheme. Anything to give me staying power would be more useful that Tirion.

  • bickel's Avatar
    105 8 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    I know it only looks at public information, but the number of cards remaining in my deck is public, right?

    Because when I'm facing an opponent with 10 cards left and I have 0 cards left and an empty board, what would be perfect would be Archivist Elysiana. Or even a Baleful Banker. Or Spirit of the Dead. Or Togwaggle's Scheme. Anything to give me staying power would be more useful that Tirion.

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  • Peepopo's Avatar
    200 7 Posts Joined 05/31/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    I think Zephrys only gives cards from the Basic and Classic sets, so none of those cards would be an option anyhow. 

    I still don't know if Zephrys knows you've got an empty deck, but it would seem not.

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  • Alleria's Avatar
    Eevee 1275 863 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    You must remember that Zephrys can only give you Classic and Basis cards. Not sure about the fatigue thing, but I´d guess no.

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  • Ethardoth's Avatar
    Harpy Lieutenant 435 389 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    Now that you've asked, I thought it would be pretty amazing if he could give you Coldlight Oracle or Naturalize for lethal when opponent's in fatigue.

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  • RavenSunHS's Avatar
    Refreshment Vendor 880 1487 Posts Joined 03/27/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    If Zephrys the Great could give you any kind of cards from any set, it would be entirely broken. (And nearly impossible to code properly).

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  • Kovachut's Avatar
    HearthStationeer 675 756 Posts Joined 03/31/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    I think he doesn't. Hysteria did some experiments with Zephrys and he wanted to see whether the legendary would give him lethal, if his opponentis was deep in fatigue. He didn't acknowledge that. Maybe because Coldlight Oracle and Naturalize are HoF-ed, so it's hard to tell if fatigue takes part of Zephrys's algorithm.

    It's also true, that Zephrys isn't aware of the deathrattle effects of some cards, so the whole fatigue thing is a mystery.

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  • zoobernut's Avatar
    Swamp 255 137 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    On the bright side they have adjusted Zephrys in the past so hopefully they adjust it again in the future to account for fatigue and to continue to get it to consider more deathrattle cards. It seems like they want to keep improving the coding of the card to make it give better choices. 

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  • Synesthesy's Avatar
    240 142 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    Zephrys can't give cards from hall of fame. That's all. I don't remember any other cards in classic that can help you in fatigue case....

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  • mrgn0me's Avatar
    200 8 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    To answer your question, yes Zephrys does know the cards in your deck. But as others stated it only gives Basic and Classic cards. On the bright side he won't offer you Lay on Hands if you don't have any cards in deck

    My thoughts are plagued.

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  • hatty's Avatar
    Face Collector 805 93 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    I feel like it never gives me anything except Tirion or the 8 mana board clear

     

    Gets to legend then plays memes.

    Rogue > all

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  • SpineSlasher's Avatar
    285 78 Posts Joined 06/05/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    Am I the only one who thought he meant tired?

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    Detective Pikachu 2565 3344 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago
    Quote From mrgn0me

    (...) On the bright side he won't offer you Lay on Hands if you don't have any cards in deck

    That's all I wish for ^^

    Just like OP, I played Zephrys with an empty deck, thinking that the archivist would be in my discover options ...
    Realized too late it wasn't even possible - basic and classic set only

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  • bickel's Avatar
    105 8 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 7 months ago

    God I totally forgot that Zephrys only offers you classic or basic cards.

    Duh.

    Sorry everyone.

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