Welcome Back Party - Card Design Competition Discussion Thread

  • ShadowsOfSense's Avatar Community Manager Buried Alive 1325 920 Posts Joined 10/23/2018
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago


    Competition Theme: Welcome Back Party

    We're starting the Season off with a party, so bring your best drinks!

    • You must create a card which is themed around the WoW event, Brewfest
      • Minions, spells, weapons - anything can join this party, so long as they get in the spirits!

    To start us off, Arkasaur is looking to get festive. Eat, drink and be merry - and make sure your entry does too!

    As always, I can be reached through Discord or here on the site via PM if you have any issues to report.


    Competition Phases

    Here are the phases of this card design competition

    • Submission Phase: Starts on Mon, Oct 4 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sat, Oct 9 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Voting Phase: Starts on Sat, Oct 9 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Sun, Oct 10 16:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Finalist Phase: Starts on Sun, Oct 10 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400). Runs until Mon, Oct 11 17:00 EDT (GMT -0400)
    • Winner Selected: After finalist voting concludes and we validate votes.

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  • linkblade91's Avatar Global Moderator Lissandra 1445 1624 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    How about some weaponized drunken-master shenanigans? Monk ain't a class, so I had to make do:

    Could allow you to double-up on your attacks to the enemy's face, clear the board with some drunken in-fighting, or it could all backfire spectacularly!

    If you have the time, you should totally check out our weekly Hearthstone card design competitions! :D

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  • shaveyou's Avatar 340 197 Posts Joined 06/08/2019
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    It's been a while, I'm a little rusty.

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  • grumpymonk's Avatar 340 133 Posts Joined 04/02/2020
    Posted 1 week, 5 days ago

    New season!!!

    Nothing like a little alcohol to let your guard down and pick the best of fights!

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar The Cake Is A Lie 1590 1684 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 1 week, 4 days ago

    Yay, Season 4 :)))

    I've tried to do something traditional:

    Edit: This card is obviously a bad idea because only Ogres get the 50% wrong enemy effect. I'll try to come up with another ability.

    I notice I am confused. Something I believe isn't true. How do I know what I think I know?
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  • Neoguli's Avatar Duskrider 730 419 Posts Joined 06/25/2019
    Posted 1 week, 4 days ago

    You create the spell from the same ingredients as if you played Kazakus.

    "Truth is in the shadows, waiting to be revealed by the light. But light only disperses the shadow." - Me

    "If other people shared traits of those considered naive, the world would've become a better place." - Also me

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  • MenacingBagel's Avatar 720 647 Posts Joined 09/24/2019
    Posted 1 week, 4 days ago

    Ah aged to perfection! Basically an elemental that gets bigger and more wordy as time goes as giving the feeling of aging a perfect brew. Also hey whaddup I'm back with more bad cards. Why'd I use TGT? because uh they had beer there I think.

    Then, in the middle of all the chaotic cries, someone shouted: “It's the beast! A big, scary monster lives in the black, dusky forest!” 

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  • Lundy's Avatar Protector of Elwynn 1105 499 Posts Joined 06/21/2019
    Posted 1 week, 4 days ago

     

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar Content Squad Crossroads Historian 1760 1893 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 1 week, 4 days ago

    I've had a busy past few days, so I don't have a card with me right now, but what I CAN do it provide feedback.

    Linkblade91
    I do expect a lot of "drunk" flavored cards in this competition, but this seems to be one of the best ways to achieve that effect since it still keeps some originality in its design. I am slightly worried about its RNG, but this is Hearthstone, so there's no shame in embracing it.

    Shaveyou
    I don't feel too strongly about this card unfortunately. It is quite strong as a 3 mana 3/3 that draws a card, but it also has a potential upside on top of that. It's not quite in flavor of Patrons either since it seems to cap at one extra Patron as opposed to being able to string multiple of them together. Not that it needs it since the card is already very playable as is, but it takes away from the aspect of it being a "Patron" card.

    Grumpymonk
    The drinking-flavored cards seem to always flavor on being "tipsy" rather than being "rowdy", so I do appreciate this little change up in flavor that helps the card stand out. I think the Hearthstone community as a whole has learned to never underestimate the potential of any 0-mana spell and this one does seem quite strong to me as it does basically give your minions a pseudo-Windfury effect and a wide board buff.

    Anchorm4n
    I seem to remember this card. It's not extravagant for the comp, but it gets the job done.

    Neoguli
    I really like the Kabal flavor, and I like the potential for on-Trade effects, but this one is too strong. Kazakus's 1-mana spells are really good to get continuously like this and you don't even need to shape your deck around it in any way like the two Kazakus cards. I also don't ever see a reason to actually play the card as opposed to using it solely for the on-Trade effect without the intention to ever actually play it.

    MenacingBagel
    I quite like this concept, but in regards to the TGT watermark, I don't think you should use it specifically since "wherever it is" effects didn't exist until Whispers of the Old Gods.

    Lundy

    The card seems to be missing a rarity. I assume it's intended to be Legendary since summoning permanents on the board is an effect that seems to be relegated to Legendaries and the permanent has the dragon border on it.

    I do see a problem with the card being Druid since they can ramp into this pretty easily and as soon as it's been on the board for a few turns, you can very easily stall your opponent out.

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  • R's Avatar Design Champion 785 613 Posts Joined 04/23/2020
    Posted 1 week, 3 days ago

    FEEDBACK

    linkblade91
    While I like Yoggish stuff, I hate Yoggish stuff. Reminds me of Mayor Noggenfogger, but your opponent can't deal with it. Idea is very interesting btw.

    shaveyou
    3 mana 3/3 draw a card is strong. But this minion is not clearly related to Patrons. Because a new one copy of it can't summon another copy.

    grumpymonk
    All token decks tied to board control. With this card you can go face and then "clear" the board for 0 mana. Without minions on the opponent's side it's 0 mana "give your minions +1 attack" btw.

    anchorm4n
    Clear card with good flavor. If 50% miss bother you, just change art to drunk ogre or something.

    Neoguli
    Bringing back Kazakus spells is interesting, but this card has no downvotes. You rather trade this card then play it.

    MenacingBagel
    Interesting idea, but I don't like that it's "wherever it is". Because it grow itself and you don't need to mulligan it to keep in hand or buff it like K'Thun.

    Lundy
    Card is fine, but flavor is not. You got dwarfs at first card, then brewmaster pandaren on second and elemental at third and all this in druid class. I think it's better to place a druid on first card's art.

    My card is meh, but I hope my feedback wil help anyone.

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  • HuntardHuntard's Avatar Mailbox Dancer 600 384 Posts Joined 12/03/2019
    Posted 1 week, 3 days ago
    Quote From grumpymonk

    New season!!!

    Nothing like a little alcohol to let your guard down and pick the best of fights!

    Feels weird that this is a warlock card; drunken fights are more of a warrior thing.

    Your face is already dead

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar Anduin 735 1030 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 week, 3 days ago

    Just one question about the Flavour of the Brewfest !

    The Flavour should be something for a Party (like getting or giving Gifts and Drinks) , getting Drunk (starting fights or do something stupid) etc ?

    is that correct? just wanted to know before i try to make a card :) 

    Challenge me ... when you're ready to duel a god!

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  • linkblade91's Avatar Global Moderator Lissandra 1445 1624 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 1 week, 3 days ago
    Quote From FieselFitz

    Just one question about the Flavour of the Brewfest !

    The Flavour should be something for a Party (like getting or giving Gifts and Drinks) , getting Drunk (starting fights or do something stupid) etc ?

    is that correct? just wanted to know before i try to make a card :) 

    Yeah that's about right. Brewfest's real-world equivalent is Oktoberfest, the annual German folk festival. People associate with it drinking, eating, drinking, dressing up all folksy, and drinking.

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  • MenacingBagel's Avatar 720 647 Posts Joined 09/24/2019
    Posted 1 week, 3 days ago

    Just changed the emblem to DMF to fit with the Fizzy Elemental anyhows feedback.

    On another note I kind of wanted to make Theotar since he loves brewfest but there's not really decent art for him as a card

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    Linkblade: I think it's good has nice flavor however I would never use it since every minion would attack my face

    Shaveyou: I like it solid usable card that gives the feeling of the card that gets drawn is walking into a nice cheery bar.

    Grumpymonk: I do think warrior would be more fitting also the naming is a bit weird IMO since chug and chuck in WoW invovles well chucking test brews

    anchorm4n: Clean and simple looks good

    Neoguli: simple little person who dances around the bar mixing drinks as they go clean simple good.

    Lundy: I would say pricy and bad but it's drood and infinite 5/5's with taunt so maybe actually OP

    R I like it but it does scare me since it's summon instead of play so certain cards could make it go monkey and refill constant mana piles

    Then, in the middle of all the chaotic cries, someone shouted: “It's the beast! A big, scary monster lives in the black, dusky forest!” 

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  • Demonxz95's Avatar Content Squad Crossroads Historian 1760 1893 Posts Joined 03/19/2019
    Posted 1 week, 3 days ago

    Finally got a card.

    He's rough. He's rowdy. He's also super super tipsy and can barely stand up straight.

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  • Cg8889's Avatar Design Finalist 275 69 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 1 week, 3 days ago

    Was thinking around the idea that everyone is having a great time slamming back brews but next day, all hell will break loose. A full board buff for both you and your opponent that pays dividends for both players. If the Warlock isn't finishing them this turn, your opponent gets to take advantage of the buffs. Then the party comes to a crash the next turn when everyone realizes the party is over and now have to deal with the hangover. 

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  • R's Avatar Design Champion 785 613 Posts Joined 04/23/2020
    Posted 1 week, 3 days ago

    Demonxz95
    Wow. Just… wow. Simple and cool. Good flavor. I like this card.

    Cg8889
    Remove +2/+2 buff. Because it spoils card's flavor.

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  • FieselFitz's Avatar Anduin 735 1030 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 1 week, 2 days ago

    Here is my first idea:

    Also thought about making the attack random enemies into random characters??  And also not sure about the Mana Cost - had it at 5 first but that seemed a little to cheap for the effect. 

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar The Cake Is A Lie 1590 1684 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 1 week, 2 days ago

    I'm a bit late this week, but I hope this helps:

    FieselFitz
    Good call to make it cost 6 because this would be broken in Odd Paladin. It fits the Questline synergy of Stormwind pretty nicely and the Tradeable keyword guarantees it isn't a dead card when you don't have any dudes online. The only thing that bothers me a bit is the random attacking which usually isn't a Paladin thing. I like it nevertheless, 4 stars!

    Cg8889
    Interesting idea and I like your reasoning for the flavor. Not a big fan of the art though.

    Demonxz95
    I like the idea even if I have to agree with the Discord feedback that this is a nice way to play around a single taunt minion. I do not like the art though because it screams "Patron" for me and your card doesn't have a Patron-like effect.

    MenacingBagel
    I'm sorry but I'm not a big fan. Applying random keywords feels pretty weird and would require quite some imagination to make it work. Like your card already has lots of text, so how would you display 3 additional keywords while it is in your hand? Darkmoon Faire and the bartender vibes don't pair very well either and I wouldn't cut the effect into two sentences. Finally, the last line has to be written in italic.

    R
    I actually like it but I also smell OP-potential in swarm decks. Have you made sure there aren't any broken synergies with stuff like Forbidden Ritual, Swarm of Locusts or Druid cards?

    Lundy
    I agree with Demon about the missing rarity and Druid being a problematic class for this. Elementals might be a nice fit for Shaman if you want to go with the concept. You should also  add watermarks.

    Neoguli
    Nice, a callback card :) It might be a bit too strong and I really don't see why you should ever want to play this card. Maybe make it cost 1 or improve the stats at 2 Mana and raise the rarity to epic?

    Neoguli
    I like it, the only issue I see is that attacking random minions isn't much of a Warlock thing. Might be a better fit in Warrior.

    shaveyou
    The inevitable Patron card and you did a great job at coming up with something creative, too! Great flavor, great callback, my favorite so far.

    linkblade91
    A bit too much chaos for my taste so it fails the "Would you be happy to pull this from a pack?" -test for me, but it would certainly make for fun games and there are a few synergy cards like Rotface and Blackhowl Gunspire in Warrior already.

    I notice I am confused. Something I believe isn't true. How do I know what I think I know?
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  • linkblade91's Avatar Global Moderator Lissandra 1445 1624 Posts Joined 02/09/2019
    Posted 1 week, 2 days ago

    Updated idea:

    Cutting back on the total randomness and "ALL-ness" of the card. Now it's only your minions that go wild on the Brew, which could lead to board-clearing or a double-up on the enemy's face (hence the Cost-increase). Might need to cost 8.

    To go along with that, here's some (late) feedback:

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    FieselFitz - At 6-mana the comparison to Level Up! is inevitable. In exchange for Taunt they attack immediately (possibly dealing face damage), and you have Tradeable to throw Cheers! away if you don't need it (whereas Level Up! can often be a dead card in your hand). Even if you allow for Power Creep of a mostly-bad card, at their core they are super-similar, which is a bit of a problem.

    Cg8889 - This card is amusing, but it would honestly never work out in practice: the Warlock would use the card as a cheap Bloodlust-esque finisher, defeating the point of the second part. Anything else would risk needless retaliation.

    Demonxz95 - Seems fine, but easily gameable. Target the "wrong" enemy so he redirects to the one you want, plus he *will* 100% target the correct enemy if their board is empty and you go face. Is all of this worth +1 Attack over vanilla? Certainly not to include in your deck, which begs the question of whether or not people will vote for amusing "pack-filler".

    MenacingBagel - "(Wherever this is)" is supposed to be in italics, but that's not a big deal. I think random-keywords is scary, since there are only so many keywords that don't require a descriptor. At the end of the day you're just about always creating a Neutral, cheaper, better-statted Al'Akir the Windlord. That's cool, but also quite strong.

    R - I wouldn't say Stunning Waitress is "meh", because she is very strong. Token decks in particular would love the ability to refresh Mana after each summon, multi-proccing the effect for big returns. For this competition it's quite original in that it doesn't involve drunkenness, so that's also a plus. Is she too good? Probably, but I would await more feedback to be sure.

    Lundy - You forgot to give your card a rarity gem, and by extension a watermark. Anyway, "end of each turn" seems quite good for a permanent effect that cannot be removed; I know it's 10-mana, and that's asking a lot, but the 5/5s will add up. If Brew of the Month Club is not a Legendary, you could cast it twice to really stonewall your opponent, and Sheldras Moontree can even cheat them out. I think it's cool, but the permanence is scary.

    Neoguli - Pretty neat: for 1-mana you're drawing a card and crafting a custom 1-Mana spell. The problem, however, is that unless you're desperate for board presence there's no reason to ever play him as-is. Every-other Tradeable minion does something when you play them or at least provides something like Spell Damage or Taunt. The Bartender is just a 2/2/3.

    grumpymonk - With the orc being the "main character" of the art, and the general "getting drunk and angry" flavor, it seems more like a Warrior card; isn't he attacking the imps? Not that it can't be a Warlock card: I honestly think it stands out more that way.

    shaveyou - I like it: I don't have much in the way of notes. Good art, the Patron effect makes sense, and it's a solid card overall.

    If you have the time, you should totally check out our weekly Hearthstone card design competitions! :D

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