New Shaman Spell - Perpetual Flame

  • Arthas's Avatar Black Lotus 780 1999 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 3 weeks, 1 day ago

    A new Rare Shaman Spell, Perpetual Flame, has been revealed!

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar Bloodfeather 1400 2819 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 weeks, 1 day ago

    Just in case anyone's confused. This will (almost guaranteed) overload for 1 everytime it procs (similar to how Yogg will overload you). This means that this is essentially a worse LIghtning Storm by the time it clears more than 2 minions.

    Aside from that it is also RANDOM meaning you can't even guarantee one additional proc.

    Basically the only way you'd actively play this in any capacity is if Token Druid becomes so strong that you need to have an answer to a full board on turn 1 or else you lose.

    Just play Lightning Storm.

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • edennnnnn's Avatar 255 57 Posts Joined 11/16/2020
    Posted 3 weeks, 1 day ago

    this doesn't seem true.

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  • jeffbezos's Avatar 60 10 Posts Joined 05/29/2021
    Posted 3 weeks, 1 day ago

    if this overloads 1 everytime it is absolutely awful, i just hope it doesnt

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  • MurlocAggroB's Avatar COMMENT_COUNT_500_HS 925 534 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 3 weeks, 1 day ago

    The Overload: (1) is written after the recast this. If it Overloaded for each repeat, it would say "Deal 3 damage to an enemy minion and Overload: (1). If it dies, recast this."

    Keep in kind that "recast this" does not actually count as casting a spell. It's shorthand for "repeat this effect".

    A man is lying on the street, some punks chopped off his head

    I'm the only one who stops to see if he's dead.

    Hmm. Turns out he's dead.

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  • YourPrivateNightmare's Avatar Bloodfeather 1400 2819 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 3 weeks, 1 day ago
    Quote From MurlocAggroB

    The Overload: (1) is written after the recast this. If it Overloaded for each repeat, it would say "Deal 3 damage to an enemy minion and Overload: (1). If it dies, recast this."

    Keep in kind that "recast this" does not actually count as casting a spell. It's shorthand for "repeat this effect".

    alright that sounds plausible and I hope it's true.

    I tried having fun once.

    It was awful.

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  • Brandon's Avatar Old God Fanatic 760 1075 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 3 weeks, 1 day ago

    Hmm seems interesting. Seems good for 1 mana, but the wording confuses me. Do you get overloaded for 2 mana if its effect triggers? if so then wow it's a lot worse. If not then wow that seems really good for 1 mana, even though it targets a random enemy minion. 

    This card will probably see play in Control Shaman, and in Overload Shaman in order to steal back the board. And considering Overload Shaman just got a buff, it might be playable? (For those who dont know yet, Unbound Elemental got buffed AGAIN. Oh and we got 2 pally nerfs that are going to be VERY significant.)

    In wild i'm not sure it sees play. Maybe in shudderwock shaman in order to survive early game against token Druids?

    RNG is only fun, as long as there is a 50/50 chance of getting something good or bad. If RNG always results in something good, it's not fun.

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  • economicaooc's Avatar 455 464 Posts Joined 03/04/2020
    Posted 3 weeks, 1 day ago

    Full board clear as long as everything is below or at 3 seems pretty strong, especially compared to Forked Lightning. I've been burned on shaman boardwipes before, so maybe I'm being overoptimistic. Definite maybe.

    This post is discussing the wild format.

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  • Lundy's Avatar Crossroads Historian 1065 349 Posts Joined 06/21/2019
    Posted 3 weeks, 1 day ago

    If this only Overloads once, then it's amazing and will help Shaman become a real class again. If it overloads each cast, then it's garbage and makes my Think Hearthstone reddit designed it. Both seem like plausible Blizzard designs..

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  • JoeyJojo48's Avatar Peon 605 230 Posts Joined 06/11/2019
    Posted 3 weeks, 1 day ago

    If this overloads for each cast, this might not be good enough. If it only overloads once, it's very very powerful.

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  • Pezman's Avatar Academy Adventurer 1635 1410 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 weeks, 1 day ago

    Yep, it all depends on the overload question for this one. But for those comparing it to Lightning Storm, it does cost 2 less mana, and that might be the difference between having enough mana to clear taunts and add some face damage for lethal, at which point the overload doesn't matter.

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  • Tumbleweedovski's Avatar Explorer of Dragons 1070 318 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 3 weeks, 1 day ago

    The way I'm interpreting this the overload definitely stacks as it clearly says recast this, not repeat this. Does that mean this is a worse Lightning Storm? Not necessarily. As Pezman, is already pointing out, this does cost 2 less mana making this card more flexible turn you play it, while the randomness can make planning future turns more difficult. Also, this is not a nature spell making it less likely to be played due to the new Primal Dungeoneer.

    Arena > Wild > Standard

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  • Synnr7's Avatar 665 318 Posts Joined 07/19/2019
    Posted 3 weeks, 1 day ago

    Extra board clear not sure it'll see play though. Too weak in late game and too overload heavy early.

    Casual Dragon Cardgame enthusiast. 

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  • dapperdog's Avatar Dragon Scholar 1335 2445 Posts Joined 07/29/2019
    Posted 3 weeks, 1 day ago

    The question is whether this card will overload you multiple times as it repeats. If yes, then this card is trash. But because of this, I'm almost certain that it wont.

    With that assumption, this card is simply insane. You can full clear the board with 1 mana investment with a paltry overload factor. After that nice discussion with AngryShukie on the overload factor, this card is what I would call a properly strong overload card that makes sense.

    That is, as long as it doesn't overload you mutilple times in a row. Dont let my hopes down, team5.

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  • GoddammitDontShootMe's Avatar Crossroads Historian 1260 363 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 3 weeks, 1 day ago

    This should be good if all the enemy minions have 3 or less health (and no divine shield). Maybe you need to do a trade or 2 first. I just hope the overload doesn't repeat.

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  • dylbertarenas's Avatar Mangletooth 290 50 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 3 weeks, 1 day ago

    seems like a really great card (if it only overloads 1 total)

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