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KANSASOld God Fanatic 17452912 PostsJoined 03/25/2019
Posted 2 years, 7 months ago
It is a combination of Acidmaw and Dreadscale for a third of the price. All you need is either a whirlwind effect in hand, which warrior should be able to do, or just have some minions already on the field to trade with.
2 mana Equality saw play in Paladin, so 3 mana Equality should see play in warrior/paladin.
Given how little he costs, I'm willing to bet that deathrattle is more of a liability than it looks. It is too slow to be used to kill off the opponent's minions the turn you play him, so that still needs 2 cards, and even if you do that by giving him rush, you're then killing off any minions you had on your side, saving your opponent the hassle of doing it themselves.
You will usually be ahead on the board too after you clear the board with, say, Consecration, so you don't want the deathrattle to go off anymore most of the time.
So all in all, I have to think that the two effects looks super synergistic, but the way it is put together means they probably don't mix well most of the time.
BloodMefistOld God Fanatic 825728 PostsJoined 05/28/2019
Posted 2 years, 7 months ago
Super good in both classes, its a discounted Equality that comes with a body and can even activate itself. Activates damage synergy in Warrior, clears for Paladin with itself Equality or that one Libram, card will 100% see at least some play.
Its just a very strong card that will see inclusion into most decks since its essentially a removal card, with a deathrattle that can be beneficial under some circumstances.
Cheaper equality, and yet another board clear for warrior. Whats else is there to want from a card for both sides?
Could this be a sign that equality might get unnerfed? It seems odd that equality + a 3/2 with a synergistic deathrattle costs less than equality.
This card is pretty nice for odd warrior and DMH warrior, and probably works pretty well in a midrange paladin deck as well. Very nice 1-card board clear.
Could this be a sign that equality might get unnerfed? It seems odd that equality + a 3/2 with a synergistic deathrattle costs less than equality.
I don't think it seems odd that an expansion legendary is more powerful than an evergreen rare.
Cards in the classic set should generally be a little bit worse then the effect would normally cost. That way they don't get played all of the time. But then if there isn't a card with that effect in an expansion, then there is always that classic card.
Still think Equality was extreamly overnerfed at 4 mana.. think they should readjust Equality to 3.. just cause it was done such an injustice to the iconic card..
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Anyway strong card dunno already every class gets INSANE cards this expansion.. so much for not powercreeping as much.
SparkinariusCrossroads Historian 715471 PostsJoined 07/18/2019
Posted 2 years, 7 months ago
Lord Barov looks powerful, but I think with a little context he doesn't appear as good as his face value.
First, the deathrattle for Lord Barov needs to be triggered the turn you play him if you want to clear the board that turn, which I imagine will be most scenarios as is the nature of board clears. This means you need another card alongside Lord Barov to kill him like Teron Gorefiend or Rocket Augmerchant or that new broom card. The issue with this is that this is a 2 card combo with the core card being a one-of in the deck, which makes your activator(s) dead in hand until you draw Lord Barov,.
Second, for Paladin, theEquality effect has historically seen play in control and combo Paly decks, where you aren't playing for board. Paladin right now, and standard Hearthstone for that matter, is mostly about playing for board. Libram Paladin would rather run Libram of Justice as it doesn't ruin their board like Lord Barov does. Also, there just isn't enough support for a control or combo Paladin in standard right now.
Third, for Warrior, I actually think its possible for Lord Barov to see play in Warrior as they have self-damage enabling effects and have run enabler cards like Teron Gorefiend quite successfully in Ashes of Outland. Still, Lord Barov is awkward with Inner Rage, Rampage, and Bloodsworn Mercenary and could be a dead card in hand if any of these cards are also in hand.
Overall, I think Lord Barov is more situational than he looks. If control or combo for either class gets support, than his inclusion in either class would make more sense.
This was not the minion I was expecting for Paladin and Warrior.
Both classes have historically enjoyed having their opponent's minions at 1 health so they can clear their board with spells like whirlwind or consecration.
Lord Barov's Deathrattle serves to help clear the board too, although he will potentially clear your board as well.
Warrior has the easiest time to activate it's death rattle on their turn, with risky skipper being a very popular minion since AoO made pirates popular, along with Sword and Board which is a 1 mana spell that deals a modest 2 damage, and slam can also be used to kill Lord Barov. If a minions' board is cleared before Barov's Deathrattle is activated, you could set up your own board with Armorsmith to gain armor and then use Battlerage to fill you hand.
For Paladin this minion has a clear synergy with their Silver hand recruit tokens, allowing the tiny 1/1 minions to trade into your opponents larger threats, or even setting up a consecration play (equality and consecration used to see play, but I believe Equality got nerfed which killed that combo). I'm not certain how a paladin would intentionally activate Barov's effect or if there's any synergy they have with this effect, either, though.
This is pretty amazing, honestly. It's like mixing Equality or Libram of Justice with [Hearthstone Card (Pyromancer) Not Found], but not having to worry about a combo, and even being able to possible use it multiple times as a deathrattle.
Damn this card is nuts! You get a 3/2, an Equality, and a Whirlwind all in one for 3 mana. Slightly restrictive because you may not be able to trigger the DR when you want to, but it will also be tough for your opponent to play around.
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Though I disagree with some posts above, as I still see this as a combo card-- you still need another card to activate its effect immediately. Either you need a card to kill this minion immediately (like Teron Gorefiend in the video), or a card to kill all the other minions (like Risky Skipper for Warrior or Consecration for pally).
Just a very solid card all around, and that’s saying something about the power level of this expansion if such a ridiculous card can only be rated as “fair”
So Risky Skipper + Lord Barov is 2 card board clear? In paladin i feel there will be some deathrattle support, just a feeling. All in all, i can see myself playing with this card.
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It is a combination of Acidmaw and Dreadscale for a third of the price. All you need is either a whirlwind effect in hand, which warrior should be able to do, or just have some minions already on the field to trade with.
2 mana Equality saw play in Paladin, so 3 mana Equality should see play in warrior/paladin.
Carrion, my wayward grub.
Given how little he costs, I'm willing to bet that deathrattle is more of a liability than it looks. It is too slow to be used to kill off the opponent's minions the turn you play him, so that still needs 2 cards, and even if you do that by giving him rush, you're then killing off any minions you had on your side, saving your opponent the hassle of doing it themselves.
You will usually be ahead on the board too after you clear the board with, say, Consecration, so you don't want the deathrattle to go off anymore most of the time.
So all in all, I have to think that the two effects looks super synergistic, but the way it is put together means they probably don't mix well most of the time.
Super good in both classes, its a discounted Equality that comes with a body and can even activate itself. Activates damage synergy in Warrior, clears for Paladin with itself Equality or that one Libram, card will 100% see at least some play.
Its just a very strong card that will see inclusion into most decks since its essentially a removal card, with a deathrattle that can be beneficial under some circumstances.
Cheaper equality, and yet another board clear for warrior. Whats else is there to want from a card for both sides?
Could this be a sign that equality might get unnerfed? It seems odd that equality + a 3/2 with a synergistic deathrattle costs less than equality.
This card is pretty nice for odd warrior and DMH warrior, and probably works pretty well in a midrange paladin deck as well. Very nice 1-card board clear.
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I don't think it seems odd that an expansion legendary is more powerful than an evergreen rare.
Cards in the classic set should generally be a little bit worse then the effect would normally cost. That way they don't get played all of the time. But then if there isn't a card with that effect in an expansion, then there is always that classic card.
Carrion, my wayward grub.
A good control card for warrior. For Paladin maybe an egg/deathrattle build including Teron Gorefiend could make some sense here.
Still think Equality was extreamly overnerfed at 4 mana.. think they should readjust Equality to 3.. just cause it was done such an injustice to the iconic card..
justice demands retribution!
Anyway strong card dunno already every class gets INSANE cards this expansion.. so much for not powercreeping as much.
There's a lot to like here for both Paladin and Warrior - I expect it will see play in at least one of them.
Totally agree.
Teron Gorefiend is the first card that comes to my mind when i was finding a card to activate the DR for pally.
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Lord Barov looks powerful, but I think with a little context he doesn't appear as good as his face value.
First, the deathrattle for Lord Barov needs to be triggered the turn you play him if you want to clear the board that turn, which I imagine will be most scenarios as is the nature of board clears. This means you need another card alongside Lord Barov to kill him like Teron Gorefiend or Rocket Augmerchant or that new broom card. The issue with this is that this is a 2 card combo with the core card being a one-of in the deck, which makes your activator(s) dead in hand until you draw Lord Barov,.
Second, for Paladin, the Equality effect has historically seen play in control and combo Paly decks, where you aren't playing for board. Paladin right now, and standard Hearthstone for that matter, is mostly about playing for board. Libram Paladin would rather run Libram of Justice as it doesn't ruin their board like Lord Barov does. Also, there just isn't enough support for a control or combo Paladin in standard right now.
Third, for Warrior, I actually think its possible for Lord Barov to see play in Warrior as they have self-damage enabling effects and have run enabler cards like Teron Gorefiend quite successfully in Ashes of Outland. Still, Lord Barov is awkward with Inner Rage, Rampage, and Bloodsworn Mercenary and could be a dead card in hand if any of these cards are also in hand.
Overall, I think Lord Barov is more situational than he looks. If control or combo for either class gets support, than his inclusion in either class would make more sense.
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This was not the minion I was expecting for Paladin and Warrior.
Both classes have historically enjoyed having their opponent's minions at 1 health so they can clear their board with spells like whirlwind or consecration.
Lord Barov's Deathrattle serves to help clear the board too, although he will potentially clear your board as well.
Warrior has the easiest time to activate it's death rattle on their turn, with risky skipper being a very popular minion since AoO made pirates popular, along with Sword and Board which is a 1 mana spell that deals a modest 2 damage, and slam can also be used to kill Lord Barov. If a minions' board is cleared before Barov's Deathrattle is activated, you could set up your own board with Armorsmith to gain armor and then use Battlerage to fill you hand.
For Paladin this minion has a clear synergy with their Silver hand recruit tokens, allowing the tiny 1/1 minions to trade into your opponents larger threats, or even setting up a consecration play (equality and consecration used to see play, but I believe Equality got nerfed which killed that combo). I'm not certain how a paladin would intentionally activate Barov's effect or if there's any synergy they have with this effect, either, though.
This is pretty amazing, honestly. It's like mixing Equality or Libram of Justice with [Hearthstone Card (Pyromancer) Not Found], but not having to worry about a combo, and even being able to possible use it multiple times as a deathrattle.
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Looks pretty amazing to me, Warrior’s gonna love another cheap full clear, and Paladin always wants more actual board clears
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Damn this card is nuts! You get a 3/2, an Equality, and a Whirlwind all in one for 3 mana. Slightly restrictive because you may not be able to trigger the DR when you want to, but it will also be tough for your opponent to play around.
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Top tier expansion legendary. This is going to be a meta definer for sure.
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Very good card. This will easily see play.
Though I disagree with some posts above, as I still see this as a combo card-- you still need another card to activate its effect immediately. Either you need a card to kill this minion immediately (like Teron Gorefiend in the video), or a card to kill all the other minions (like Risky Skipper for Warrior or Consecration for pally).
Just a very solid card all around, and that’s saying something about the power level of this expansion if such a ridiculous card can only be rated as “fair”
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So Risky Skipper + Lord Barov is 2 card board clear? In paladin i feel there will be some deathrattle support, just a feeling. All in all, i can see myself playing with this card.