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This card can represent infinite value for hunter, which hasn't been seen before for the class. This card would likely survive on turn 1 with 3 health, so there's a high chance you'll get good value
KANSASOld God Fanatic 17152733 PostsJoined 03/25/2019
Posted 2 months, 2 weeks ago
I kind of like the idea of a dinosaur Pogo-Hopper for hunter, but in reality it just isn't going to work out.
Obviously, this is much more of a meme-y strategy, but even for a meme deck this will just be too slow and inconsistent to be played. There are simply too many hoops to jump through.
You have to draw a raptor, then damage it and have it survive, then rinse and repeat. The problem is that hunter is bad at drawing, and doesn't really have any way to "ping" the raptors to consistently trigger the frenzy. And even then each raptor is only going to shuffle in 1 raptor, meaning that you will never be able to multiply your raptors and get 50 of them shoved into your deck.
Maybe with Dire Frenzy and a ton of draw you could get this to work, but even if you do manage to pull it off, the reward isn't even that significant.
Obviously, this is much more of a meme-y strategy, but even for a meme deck this will just be too slow and inconsistent to be played. There are simply too many hoops to jump through.
On the other hand, Dire Mole with a strict upside. I can't imagine Midrange Hunter not using this card.
A man is lying on the street, some punks chopped off his head
Obviously, this is much more of a meme-y strategy, but even for a meme deck this will just be too slow and inconsistent to be played. There are simply too many hoops to jump through.
On the other hand, Dire Mole with a strict upside. I can't imagine Midrange Hunter not using this card.
Fair enough. I got a bit caught up in the possibility of infinite value and forgot to actually look at the card :P
One thing you have to consider when adding this to your deck is whether or not you actually want the second copy shuffled in. In some decks, drawing an extra vanilla minion, even one with good stats, isn't ideal later in the game. It all depends on what deck you are playing.
The best thing about this card is that its a 1 mana 1/3 beast. And that alone makes it worthy of inclusion into most face hunters, let alone a more tempo beast build. The fact that this one can get bigger is not necessarily a good thing, given that most tempo-face hunters go for face and no one wants a 3/4 in the late game when a Kill Command is needed. That said, if you need a good early game beast, this one comes a calling in spades.
Maybe Tol'vir Warden gets included into core. And then this would be legit a threat to trigger its frenzy
BrandonOld God Fanatic 7501029 PostsJoined 05/29/2019
Posted 2 months, 2 weeks ago
I think this will be an amazing card for hunter, because it's effect is easy to trigger and it has premium 1 drop stats. The only bad thing about Sunscale Raptor is that it needs a lot of draw, which hunters often lack.
Standard: Will see play in Aggro/FACE Hunter because it's a good 1 drop, and it MIGHT see play in some kind of memey Sunscale Raptor deck which would function kinda like Pogo Rogue.
Wild: Even though Hunters in Wild are very rare, i think this will certainly fit in The Marsh Queen hunter, and maybe replace Raptor Hatchling in that deck. (But honestly both might be core cards.) Luckely Sunscale Raptor only shuffles another Sunscale Raptor into your deck, imagine if it shuffled a buffed version of a Zombeast from Deathstalker Rexxar into their deck.. (Thank yogg they thought about that.)
Probably not gonna be used for its intended effect (especially since in Midrange Hunter you kinda don't want some vanilla statted dino in the later stage but rather some bigger or stickier stuff)
Still a good sign for a return to Midrange Beast Hunter (I can't even tell you how tired I am of seeing only Highlander Hunters)
1 mana 1/3 is good. If played early, it will almost certainly survive a hit, then you have a 1 mana 3/4 in your deck somewhere. If you're lucky, maybe you'll shuffle in a 1 mana 5/5.
Ok, a 1-mana 1/3 is almost always good. Obviously you can look at Dwarven Sharpshooter, Northshire Cleric and pre-nerf Mana Wyrm just to name a few. But Dire Mole saw a lot of play and didn't even do anything! Plus this has a really neat effect.
What does “permanent +2/+1” mean? If I play a second-generation (3/4) Sunscale Raptor, does it stay 3/4 after it’s silenced or returned to hand?
No is certain yet, but I expect it changes the base stats of a minion. For example Horrendous Growth or Jade Golems. So it immune to silence or sap effects.
As for the card, I expect to see it in hunter decks even for the stats alone. As for the text, I am not too sold on it. I think it depends if they give hunter better card draws on the core set or the expansion.
The way I understood the text, it will be the base copy shuffled back into your deck. So 3/4 will be it's biggest form.
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This card can represent infinite value for hunter, which hasn't been seen before for the class. This card would likely survive on turn 1 with 3 health, so there's a high chance you'll get good value
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I kind of like the idea of a dinosaur Pogo-Hopper for hunter, but in reality it just isn't going to work out.
Obviously, this is much more of a meme-y strategy, but even for a meme deck this will just be too slow and inconsistent to be played. There are simply too many hoops to jump through.
You have to draw a raptor, then damage it and have it survive, then rinse and repeat. The problem is that hunter is bad at drawing, and doesn't really have any way to "ping" the raptors to consistently trigger the frenzy. And even then each raptor is only going to shuffle in 1 raptor, meaning that you will never be able to multiply your raptors and get 50 of them shoved into your deck.
Maybe with Dire Frenzy and a ton of draw you could get this to work, but even if you do manage to pull it off, the reward isn't even that significant.
Carrion, my wayward grub.
On the other hand, Dire Mole with a strict upside. I can't imagine Midrange Hunter not using this card.
A man is lying on the street, some punks chopped off his head
I'm the only one who stops to see if he's dead.
Hmm. Turns out he's dead.
Fair enough. I got a bit caught up in the possibility of infinite value and forgot to actually look at the card :P
One thing you have to consider when adding this to your deck is whether or not you actually want the second copy shuffled in. In some decks, drawing an extra vanilla minion, even one with good stats, isn't ideal later in the game. It all depends on what deck you are playing.
Carrion, my wayward grub.
The best thing about this card is that its a 1 mana 1/3 beast. And that alone makes it worthy of inclusion into most face hunters, let alone a more tempo beast build. The fact that this one can get bigger is not necessarily a good thing, given that most tempo-face hunters go for face and no one wants a 3/4 in the late game when a Kill Command is needed. That said, if you need a good early game beast, this one comes a calling in spades.
Maybe Tol'vir Warden gets included into core. And then this would be legit a threat to trigger its frenzy
I think this will be an amazing card for hunter, because it's effect is easy to trigger and it has premium 1 drop stats. The only bad thing about Sunscale Raptor is that it needs a lot of draw, which hunters often lack.
Standard: Will see play in Aggro/FACE Hunter because it's a good 1 drop, and it MIGHT see play in some kind of memey Sunscale Raptor deck which would function kinda like Pogo Rogue.
Wild: Even though Hunters in Wild are very rare, i think this will certainly fit in The Marsh Queen hunter, and maybe replace Raptor Hatchling in that deck. (But honestly both might be core cards.) Luckely Sunscale Raptor only shuffles another Sunscale Raptor into your deck, imagine if it shuffled a buffed version of a Zombeast from Deathstalker Rexxar into their deck.. (Thank yogg they thought about that.)
No, this pretty much worse than Raptor Hatchling in Wild
I tried having fun once.
It was awful.
I think this card will be in almost every hunter deck.
Good Stats for 1 Mana and the ability is pretty good too.
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Dire Mole at worst, an escalating threat at best.
Probably not gonna be used for its intended effect (especially since in Midrange Hunter you kinda don't want some vanilla statted dino in the later stage but rather some bigger or stickier stuff)
Still a good sign for a return to Midrange Beast Hunter (I can't even tell you how tired I am of seeing only Highlander Hunters)
I tried having fun once.
It was awful.
The frenzy here just looks like a fun upside. But the card itself is just good. Hunter can always use a tough early beast very effectively.
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1 mana 1/3 beast with an interesting effect.
I think that every Hunter will use them.
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1 mana 1/3 is good. If played early, it will almost certainly survive a hit, then you have a 1 mana 3/4 in your deck somewhere. If you're lucky, maybe you'll shuffle in a 1 mana 5/5.
What does “permanent +2/+1” mean? If I play a second-generation (3/4) Sunscale Raptor, does it stay 3/4 after it’s silenced or returned to hand?
I'm pretty sure it just means the buffs will stack, I'd assume it still becomes a 1/3 when silenced regardless of how many times it's been shuffled
Ok, a 1-mana 1/3 is almost always good. Obviously you can look at Dwarven Sharpshooter, Northshire Cleric and pre-nerf Mana Wyrm just to name a few. But Dire Mole saw a lot of play and didn't even do anything! Plus this has a really neat effect.
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Not really relevant for either Format unless it gets more health or Rush.
e: might be good for arena? Some arena buff tell me to shut up if this is not the case.
No is certain yet, but I expect it changes the base stats of a minion. For example Horrendous Growth or Jade Golems. So it immune to silence or sap effects.
As for the card, I expect to see it in hunter decks even for the stats alone. As for the text, I am not too sold on it. I think it depends if they give hunter better card draws on the core set or the expansion.
The way I understood the text, it will be the base copy shuffled back into your deck. So 3/4 will be it's biggest form.
As long as you have Animated broomBADCARDNAME or something else to help you damage it and survive, then you're golden