New Hunter Spell - Hunter's Pack

  • Arthas's Avatar 185 459 Posts Joined 03/10/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    A new Common Hunter Spell, Hunter's Pack, has been revealed!

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  • kiszelkap's Avatar 75 8 Posts Joined 03/24/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    What the hell?!

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  • Satanley's Avatar 75 23 Posts Joined 07/21/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    Hey, that's pretty good.

     

    Edit: Especially the weapon part. Only Eaglehorn, Hatchet and Gladiators Longbow, right?

    You get a Secret for Eaglehorn, a Beast for Hatchet and Gladiator is underrated, imo atleast.

    Also, Zul'Jin value, jeez.

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  • Marega's Avatar 230 232 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    3 mana draw 3 for hunter again.

    I miss the golden days of trash draw hunter

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  • caloides's Avatar 35 4 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    Fits right in with the class identity

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  • RandomGuy's Avatar 305 468 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    Welp, now Secret Hunter has refill. That is going to be pretty scary.
    And random Hunter beasts have low key gotten pretty good.

    It'll be interesting to see if a Master's Call deck is preferable to this.

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  • Yusuke's Avatar 150 112 Posts Joined 06/02/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    Hunter gets a lot of 3-mana draw 3 cards and Subject 9 is a thing.

    Maybe its time for Hunter to try Mountain Giant? :D

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  • Hydrafrog's Avatar 300 183 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    Hunter has been getting a lot of bonus hand improvement in the past couple of release. Good thing there was a realignment of class identity otherwise this would be a little awkward...

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  • AivEr's Avatar 55 14 Posts Joined 06/11/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    nerf before release. this is a common card btw:D

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  • Tetsuo's Avatar 205 147 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    Um, this is insane value for a common. Great card!

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  • Zwane's Avatar Wizard 240 330 Posts Joined 06/04/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    This is probably only useful in the mid-range beast deck or the secret deck. But what card will it replace? Maybe in the secret deck you are flexible and you can switch something, but in the beast one I can not think of a card that you want to replace for this.

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  • iWatchUSleep's Avatar 375 462 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago
    Quote From caloides

    Fits right in with the class identity

    I guess 3 mana draw 3 will be hunter's new identity.

     

    Oh well. Good value as a standalone card. Even better when paired with Zul'jin.

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  • kaladin's Avatar 210 329 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    Decent card but probably overrated.  

    Remember, this is "add 3 random cards to your hand."  When have those been super strong?  You want to draw cards you actually and specifically put into your deck, not random cards.  

    edit: 

    Also, keep in mind what other 3-drops this competes with and ask yourself how the hell this would fit into a Hunter deck (not listing the unplayed 3-drops):

    Here are just some of my current decks: Highlander Thief Rogue, Highlander Obelisk Priest

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  • iWatchUSleep's Avatar 375 462 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago
    Quote From kaladin

    Decent card but probably overrated.  

    Remember, this is "add 3 random cards to your hand."  When have those been super strong?  You want to draw cards you actually and specifically put into your deck, not random cards.  

    The difference here is that this card is 3 mana, rather than cards such as Devour Mind and Cabalist's Tome which cost nearly double the amount of mana. Plus the cards that you get are more specific and generally guaranteed to be more useful than, say, a Glacial Mysteries or Shatter when you have no other freeze cards.

    I'm not saying the card is super broken, but the odds of it seeing play over other "add 3 random cards to your hand" spells is significantly higher.

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  • Xynot's Avatar 90 24 Posts Joined 05/30/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    I agree with the people saying it looks good but probably isn't as great as it looks.   Reminds me of Revenge of the Wild which sees little play.  People thought it was bonkers when it was revealed.  Still, it looks like it will be a lot of fun and I'm sure we see it in the highlight reels.

    All that you see is but a judgment against yourself.

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  • EndlessTides's Avatar 175 165 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    Thank whatever Diety you worship that Team 5 are not pushing Mech Hunter so far this Expansion.

     This is a good card. Three mana for three cards? Random yes, but Hunter Secrets are pretty good across the board, there are no bad Hunter Weapons at the moment in Standard (Wild is different ofc) and a random Beast for the synergy is pretty good too. Nice one. 

    Cocked, locked and ready to rock... 

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  • Satanley's Avatar 75 23 Posts Joined 07/21/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago
    Quote From RandomGuy

    Welp, now Secret Hunter has refill. That is going to be pretty scary.
    And random Hunter beasts have low key gotten pretty good.

    It'll be interesting to see if a Master's Call deck is preferable to this.

    I think a Master's Call deck is still superior, just because what it draws are basically combo pieces like Springpaw, Timber Wolf, Hyena and Rhino. That said, almost all cards you get from Hunter's Pack are good for a Master's Call deck. Hell, even Starving Buzzard is decent. Maybe we'll have a Meta that calls for insane value and/or constant pressure mid-/lategame, where you would play both cards in the same deck? Probably not, but who knows.

    I agree with it being good for Secret Hunter. Very good, indeed.

    Hunter seems to be in that nice spot again, where it can play tons of different archetypes that are all close to or even top tier. Secrets, Mech, Master's Call (Aggro and Midrange) and Vereesa/Burn Hunter (not the Jeppeto version, that one's pretty garbage imo) is pretty close to being very good. Hunter will definitely be Tier 1 with one of these or even something else, its cards are way too good, the archetypes are very flexible and can easily be adjusted to a certain Meta.

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  • CharismaSAVE's Avatar 50 8 Posts Joined 07/22/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    This is a common... It'll be bonkers in Arena.

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  • RandomGuy's Avatar 305 468 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago
    Quote From kaladin

    Decent card but probably overrated.  

    Remember, this is "add 3 random cards to your hand."  When have those been super strong?  You want to draw cards you actually and specifically put into your deck, not random cards.  

    edit: 

    Also, keep in mind what other 3-drops this competes with and ask yourself how the hell this would fit into a Hunter deck (not listing the unplayed 3-drops):

    Nah.

    First off, you aren't playing this in a deck that plays Master's Call, Nine Lives, Spider Bomb, or Ursatron.
    It's a Secret Hunter card.

    Second, "add 3 random cards to your hand" have seen competitive play as recently as this expansion in Crystal Song Portal. But also Cabalist Tome.

    It's worth noting that this card is (A) much cheaper than most "add 3 random cards" (B)  unconditional and (C) adding a specific set of different kinds of tools.

    Quote From Xynot

    I agree with the people saying it looks good but probably isn't as great as it looks.   Reminds me of Revenge of the Wild which sees little play.  People thought it was bonkers when it was revealed.  Still, it looks like it will be a lot of fun and I'm sure we see it in the highlight reels.

    I overrated Revenge of the Wild. However, this is a lot more simple to evaluate.

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  • ElSabidon's Avatar 135 94 Posts Joined 06/07/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    Master's Call will always just be better. And I'm not saying this cardis bad, I just think it will be played as a "created by" card if you need plenty of value, i.e., it's a really strong card you don't want to put in your deck.

    But I'd like to remind you of this:

    Quote From No Author Specified

    Hunter: Hunters use their wit, ferocity, and an army of beasts fighting alongside them to destroy their competition. Although they lack in defense, their aggression allows them to push through before they need it. A well-timed Secret or Deathrattle can help them gain clutch advantages against their opponent.

    • Strengths: Beasts, face damage, Secrets, Deathrattle
    • Limitations: Card draw and generation, board clear, Taunt
    • Weaknesses: Healing

    Good job shooting yourselves in the foot there T5. You don't want Mind Blast or Vanish evergreen, fine. Just don't have your cake and keep eating it.

    Golden portraits' progress:
    (19/Jul/19) Druid - 467; Hunter - 541; Mage - 371; Paladin - 477; Priest - 310; Rogue - 274; Shaman - 484; Warlock - 468; Warrior - 417
    (14/Aug/19) Druid - 469; Hunter - 550; Mage - 381; Paladin - 481; Priest - 311; Rogue - 279; Shaman - 500; Warlock - 468; Warrior - 422

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  • anchorm4n's Avatar HearthStationeer 295 254 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    I really like todays cards so far. They're not OP as hell but make you want to try them out, find synergies and build strategies around them. This will face tough competition in the 3 mana slot, but I really like how it's one more puzzle piece on the way to control hunter. 

    Double the pride, double the fall.

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  • Zwane's Avatar Wizard 240 330 Posts Joined 06/04/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    And, since all those mighty beasts will be turned into random murlocs anyway, hunter needs spells and weapons!

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  • doingtheobvious's Avatar 305 204 Posts Joined 06/01/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    Not quite what I had in mind in regards to support for Spell Hunter. However I'll not look a gift horse in the mouth.

    すべてが地獄に行く、
    とにかく。

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  • swinkscalibur's Avatar Rexxar 195 14 Posts Joined 06/13/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago

    I think limitations means that abilities in this area will be limited in some way. This is random card generation not card draw and it is very narrow in scope. The draw 3 beasts card also has strict limits in that you need no non beast minions.

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  • kaladin's Avatar 210 329 Posts Joined 03/13/2019
    Posted 4 months, 2 weeks ago
    Quote From RandomGuy
    Quote From kaladin

    Decent card but probably overrated.  

    Remember, this is "add 3 random cards to your hand."  When have those been super strong?  You want to draw cards you actually and specifically put into your deck, not random cards.  

    edit: 

    Also, keep in mind what other 3-drops this competes with and ask yourself how the hell this would fit into a Hunter deck (not listing the unplayed 3-drops):

    Nah.

    First off, you aren't playing this in a deck that plays Master's Call, Nine Lives, Spider Bomb, or Ursatron.
    It's a Secret Hunter card.

    Second, "add 3 random cards to your hand" have seen competitive play as recently as this expansion in Crystal Song Portal. But also Cabalist Tome.

    It's worth noting that this card is (A) much cheaper than most "add 3 random cards" (B)  unconditional and (C) adding a specific set of different kinds of tools.

    Quote From Xynot

    I agree with the people saying it looks good but probably isn't as great as it looks.   Reminds me of Revenge of the Wild which sees little play.  People thought it was bonkers when it was revealed.  Still, it looks like it will be a lot of fun and I'm sure we see it in the highlight reels.

    I overrated Revenge of the Wild. However, this is a lot more simple to evaluate.

    Secret Hunter isn't played because it's much worse than Mech Hunter.  Perhaps this card and Secret Hunter will see play when mechs rotate out, but until then, this card is mediocre. 

    Re: Crystalsong Portal and Cabalist's Tome - CP was played around with in early versions of Token Druid but I haven't seen it played in a long time.  CT didn't see play becuase of the value generation - it saw play because it was fuel for the Mage quest and nothing better existed. 

    I stick to my assessment, this won't see much play beyond the first week or two of hype. 

    Here are just some of my current decks: Highlander Thief Rogue, Highlander Obelisk Priest

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