I see this as a much more situational quasi-Sylvanas. Sure, the stats/cost make it playable, but the fact that it can't really be exploited with reanimate shenanigans is really a downer.
This might see play on efficiency alone, it's a decent 3/3 for three with potential upsides, but I don't really see this being a build-around card. My hunch is this won't see play until after rotation, if priest is still a thing then.
Can’t help but feeling a little disappointed... a cheaper, less effective Sylvanas Windrunner
The only similarity is that both cards have deathrattle, that's where the similarities end. enjoy your contest entry.
Oh come on. They're both deathrattles that give you a minion if your opponent has minions. They're not the same, but they're somewhat comparable, which is all the poster suggested.
This is a very compelling reason to cut the secret package in favour of dragons in highlander hunter IMO.
What's nice is that you don't *need* a dragon to use this weapon, at worst it's still a Fiery War Axe, but if you can drop a dragon on the turns when you need an attack you can milk a lot more damage from it.
With the cards in standard at the moment, I think this card is more at home in a mid-game tempo or greedy late game deck than an outright aggro dragonhunter build though.
Of the revealed cards so far, the two that immediately come to mind that would interact favourably with Emeriss are Frizz Kindleroost and Dragonqueen Alexstrasza: First you discount your big dragons and then on 7 you Alex some giant dragons into your hand. Turn 8 you can drop Emeriss and up to two 0 cost doublesized dragons, or you can choose to play your threats one at a time.
I don't expect it to be a top-tier deck, but I think you could probably build a greedy highlander dragonhunter and do reasonably with it on ladder. You don't need to change that much from the existing list, which already has a decent suite of control tools.
You could probably also come up with OTK combos involving copying a discounted Emeriss with Dragonbreeder, but that seems very pie-in-the-sky and meme-y.
I think people are overrating this card quite a lot, i personally voted this 1 star.
For make this card good you have to run a ridicolous amount of dragons (you want to draw them almost every turn!) , basically to justify including this card on your deck you have to play an horrible deck in the the first place.
Kaleseth and Luna's pocket galaxy aren't comparable at all with this (and I'm super happy about it), because the decks where they are played are good regardless, and become broken when they are drawn.
For this card to reach the power level of Kaleseth or Luna's you have to have a deck with like 15+ dragons that works, that deck isn't going anywhere.
I'm pretty sure that this card won't see much play after the meta settles.
You don't need this to discount 30 mana for it to be worthwhile. In fact, as a 4 mana 5/4, it barely has to do anything to be a playable card, and reducing expensive dragons in your deck by 2 is a hell of a lot more than nothing. People play Emperor Thaurisan to get a couple of cards reduced by 1, and that's a 6 mana 5/5. Reducing mana costs is one of the most consistently busted mechanics in the game.
Since they're pushing the cheap spell theme with dragonmage, suddenly Azure Explorer isn't looking as bad as it did initially. It's no Flamewaker in terms of power, but it does sorta fit that role while enabling dragon synergies. I don't think Mana Cyclone and Chenvaala are enough to make the archetype work.
It doesn't work against aggro because they'll just ignore it and kill you.
If an aggro deck gives you a bunch of free 6/6s by hitting you in the face you can probably just murder them on the backswing. Unless they have lethal on the turn you drop this guy, the fact that he also generates dragons when your opponent hits you actually presents a huge problem for aggro decks.
Well, the condition is easier to fullflill than Inkmaster Solias
Yes and no. This requires less deckbuilding sacrifices, but Solia and her ilk will always do their thing provided you build a highlander deck, whereas dragon synergy cards are still conditional/situational.
I don't understand why they gave shaman two trash legendaries and then went ahead and printed this. I really don't. Especially since battlecry shaman is in no immediate need of extra support, this would have been the prefect opportunity to start building up alternative archetypes like Big shaman.
I don't really see this replacing Harrison or Acidic Swamp Ooze as anti-weapon tech. Generally speaking decks that are worried about taking damage aren't terribly interested in dishing it out, and for the same amount of mana you could get card draw and +1 attack instead of a weapon.
Stickyfinger is an OK card but it's trying to squeeze into a very narrow niche. If it cost one less it'd be a lot more competitively priced.
It's obviously quite a bit better than Holy Nova, but I'm still a little underwhelmed by this. Sure, removing the friendly fire is nice and all, but I'd rather have an extra point of damage as a dragon bonus. It's decent but nothing too exciting.
Pirate warrior is going to need something like a Bloodsail Cultist to become a viable deck. It was the synergy between cheap pirates and weapons that made the old deck powerful.
It's a fun meme for sure, but this is a meme card. If you want to play legendaries, just put them in your deck. Sure, once in a blue moon this might give you some wonky cross-class legendary combo, but are you really going to rely on that to win games? Over the cards you, you know, actually put in your deck?
Even if they don't print any exciting new rush minions for Hunter, just thinning the Springpaws from your deck is already a huge advantage. Sign me up!
Meh. I'm surprised people think this card is good.
Why is this an effect that you want?
because it is a 2 mana 2/3 that adds a card to your hand.
Zola the Gorgon is a very good card, this is basically zola but for dragon decks only. My question is this; Why isn't this an effect you want?
Zola was good in Cavern-quest rogue and Combo Shudderwock. Unless you get a game-winning edge from specifically copying cards, or copying specific cards, the Zola Effect is just situational value.
would be interesting to see how the different classes compare to each other.
Hunter for instance wouldn't fare to well because you might run into the two class dragons which are a bit underwhelming, whereas Rogue has a chance of discovering Waxadred, which is a very good result.
Might be a fun gimmick for stuff like Shaman or Rogue, but overall probably a meme
Pretty sure they removed the discover class bonus a while back because of taunt warrior
On average, this is just a strong tempo play, but the highroll potential is insane: Kalecgos, Malygos, a bunch of the new legendary class dragons are all extremely nutty game-winning cards, especially when discounted to zero. This card is absolutely comparable to Dinotamer Brann, and it's a neutral.
At first glance this looks kinda promising, but compare it to Dragon Soul, a card which does almost the same thing but is harder to kill: that card saw zero play even when pre-nerf Razakus priest was the deck to beat.
I see this as a much more situational quasi-Sylvanas. Sure, the stats/cost make it playable, but the fact that it can't really be exploited with reanimate shenanigans is really a downer.
This might see play on efficiency alone, it's a decent 3/3 for three with potential upsides, but I don't really see this being a build-around card. My hunch is this won't see play until after rotation, if priest is still a thing then.
Oh come on. They're both deathrattles that give you a minion if your opponent has minions. They're not the same, but they're somewhat comparable, which is all the poster suggested.
This is a very compelling reason to cut the secret package in favour of dragons in highlander hunter IMO.
What's nice is that you don't *need* a dragon to use this weapon, at worst it's still a Fiery War Axe, but if you can drop a dragon on the turns when you need an attack you can milk a lot more damage from it.
With the cards in standard at the moment, I think this card is more at home in a mid-game tempo or greedy late game deck than an outright aggro dragonhunter build though.
Of the revealed cards so far, the two that immediately come to mind that would interact favourably with Emeriss are Frizz Kindleroost and Dragonqueen Alexstrasza: First you discount your big dragons and then on 7 you Alex some giant dragons into your hand. Turn 8 you can drop Emeriss and up to two 0 cost doublesized dragons, or you can choose to play your threats one at a time.
I don't expect it to be a top-tier deck, but I think you could probably build a greedy highlander dragonhunter and do reasonably with it on ladder. You don't need to change that much from the existing list, which already has a decent suite of control tools.
You could probably also come up with OTK combos involving copying a discounted Emeriss with Dragonbreeder, but that seems very pie-in-the-sky and meme-y.
You don't need this to discount 30 mana for it to be worthwhile. In fact, as a 4 mana 5/4, it barely has to do anything to be a playable card, and reducing expensive dragons in your deck by 2 is a hell of a lot more than nothing. People play Emperor Thaurisan to get a couple of cards reduced by 1, and that's a 6 mana 5/5. Reducing mana costs is one of the most consistently busted mechanics in the game.
This might have real applications, but I don't care, this is going straight into my pogohopper deck.
Since they're pushing the cheap spell theme with dragonmage, suddenly Azure Explorer isn't looking as bad as it did initially. It's no Flamewaker in terms of power, but it does sorta fit that role while enabling dragon synergies. I don't think Mana Cyclone and Chenvaala are enough to make the archetype work.
This is going to be a great dragon to get from 'random dragon' effects.
If an aggro deck gives you a bunch of free 6/6s by hitting you in the face you can probably just murder them on the backswing. Unless they have lethal on the turn you drop this guy, the fact that he also generates dragons when your opponent hits you actually presents a huge problem for aggro decks.
Yes and no. This requires less deckbuilding sacrifices, but Solia and her ilk will always do their thing provided you build a highlander deck, whereas dragon synergy cards are still conditional/situational.
I don't understand why they gave shaman two trash legendaries and then went ahead and printed this. I really don't. Especially since battlecry shaman is in no immediate need of extra support, this would have been the prefect opportunity to start building up alternative archetypes like Big shaman.
Even if you're not facing a highlander deck, this is a solid 3 mana 4/3 that can potentially screw with your opponent's draws.
I could imagine this seeing play just as a 3/4 beast. There's very little additional bonus required to make a 3 mana 3/4 playable.
I don't really see this replacing Harrison or Acidic Swamp Ooze as anti-weapon tech. Generally speaking decks that are worried about taking damage aren't terribly interested in dishing it out, and for the same amount of mana you could get card draw and +1 attack instead of a weapon.
Stickyfinger is an OK card but it's trying to squeeze into a very narrow niche. If it cost one less it'd be a lot more competitively priced.
It's obviously quite a bit better than Holy Nova, but I'm still a little underwhelmed by this. Sure, removing the friendly fire is nice and all, but I'd rather have an extra point of damage as a dragon bonus. It's decent but nothing too exciting.
Pirate warrior is going to need something like a Bloodsail Cultist to become a viable deck. It was the synergy between cheap pirates and weapons that made the old deck powerful.
It's a fun meme for sure, but this is a meme card. If you want to play legendaries, just put them in your deck. Sure, once in a blue moon this might give you some wonky cross-class legendary combo, but are you really going to rely on that to win games? Over the cards you, you know, actually put in your deck?
meme/10
Even if they don't print any exciting new rush minions for Hunter, just thinning the Springpaws from your deck is already a huge advantage. Sign me up!
Zola was good in Cavern-quest rogue and Combo Shudderwock. Unless you get a game-winning edge from specifically copying cards, or copying specific cards, the Zola Effect is just situational value.
Pretty sure they removed the discover class bonus a while back because of taunt warrior
On average, this is just a strong tempo play, but the highroll potential is insane: Kalecgos, Malygos, a bunch of the new legendary class dragons are all extremely nutty game-winning cards, especially when discounted to zero. This card is absolutely comparable to Dinotamer Brann, and it's a neutral.
At first glance this looks kinda promising, but compare it to Dragon Soul, a card which does almost the same thing but is harder to kill: that card saw zero play even when pre-nerf Razakus priest was the deck to beat.