I would like to answer your question by directing you to an archived reddit post that Ben Brode replied to. (Ben Brode was the Game Director of Hearthstone)
We had to make a call on "promo" cards: Should they be Standard forever? Or Wild?
I think it could have gone either way, but the opportunity to remove another Charge minion in Standard (Charge has been the cause of a lot of balance issues, historically), was hard to pass up. We also stopped Captain's Parrot from showing up in "random Beast" drops in Standard.
At the end of the day, we felt like Standard would be more fun without those cards. Maybe we should have just nerfed Murk Eye to remove Charge instead, but I actually like that it exists in Wild.
We removed it as a reward because we didn't want players to randomly unlock Wild before our yearly rotation, or before they initiated the unlock themselves by crafting a Wild card. Ideally new players move through the cards in this order: Basic > Classic > Standard-Legal > Wild.
In game design, you can eventually get players to very high levels of complexity, but starting with the most complex thing can turn new players off. We call it the "complexity curve", start with the basics, then layer in complexity. It's why you take Algebra before Calculus, and not the other way around. It's also one of the reasons why new players don't start with everything unlocked.
In some of the comments here I think players see it as a lost opportunity for a free Legendary. If we want to give out some other free Legendary (and that might be a good idea), I don't think doing it for this specific card (Charge, unlock Wild) is the right solution."
I was also wondering about how you are going to use HS deck tracker. To me it really difficult to upload decks. I hope your plug-in is a miracle worker.
Seems like these class identities is more of a goal than a reality. I wonder how much impact they can make on wild class identities? Ultimately, I am not that excited but I am glad they have a vision. Let's see where it goes.
Ironically, I found the old list format a bit problematic for us Wild players and I am really grateful that you are going to revamp the format. And yes I did notice that you didn't just copy and paste this list from Hearthpwn.
I was looking at one of SlydE's source material for his list: hearthstonetopdecks.com and I really liked that format. I took my understanding of the meta from Tempostorm to better understand what decks were covered in Hsreplay's list. Because I am used to looking at a crafting list for legends, I also enjoyed Hsreplay's Wild Legendary Card Format list as well. I have alway's enjoyed SlydE's list and it is a shame that he will not be joining us here but I am looking forward to a much-improved format of sorting for the best cards.
Based on other card list from the internet SlydE, Hsreplay and the Wild Meta decklist from Tempostorm, I would suggest thinking about adding Open the Waygate to the list. I am not sure how long it will be a Tier 1 card but it currently is.
Chimera, good luck with your adventures. I hope this gets a link on the main page under "cards." Thank you for all that you do around this website. Chimera you are awesome.
hmm... well. I feel kind of sheepish. No, it is not working for me. I glanced at it early today and thought it was working. Didn't expect that error. Whoops.
I have only posted a little, but I cannot find an easy way to keep track of discussions I've participated in. Am I missing something or is there nothing to miss yet?
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With this card regardless of what you play, Everyfin is Awesome.
Epic indeed!
Will this go into Odd pally? Only time and pros will know.
This flavor makes me so happy.
But is he really a protestant? (JK)
I was so confused when I saw this in my deck.
Hi elbkind,
I would like to answer your question by directing you to an archived reddit post that Ben Brode replied to. (Ben Brode was the Game Director of Hearthstone)
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/6hzkxt/why_was_oldmurkey_removed_as_a_collection_reward/
HAHAHAHA
"Hey there!
We had to make a call on "promo" cards: Should they be Standard forever? Or Wild?
I think it could have gone either way, but the opportunity to remove another Charge minion in Standard (Charge has been the cause of a lot of balance issues, historically), was hard to pass up. We also stopped Captain's Parrot from showing up in "random Beast" drops in Standard.
At the end of the day, we felt like Standard would be more fun without those cards. Maybe we should have just nerfed Murk Eye to remove Charge instead, but I actually like that it exists in Wild.
We removed it as a reward because we didn't want players to randomly unlock Wild before our yearly rotation, or before they initiated the unlock themselves by crafting a Wild card. Ideally new players move through the cards in this order: Basic > Classic > Standard-Legal > Wild.
In game design, you can eventually get players to very high levels of complexity, but starting with the most complex thing can turn new players off. We call it the "complexity curve", start with the basics, then layer in complexity. It's why you take Algebra before Calculus, and not the other way around. It's also one of the reasons why new players don't start with everything unlocked.
In some of the comments here I think players see it as a lost opportunity for a free Legendary. If we want to give out some other free Legendary (and that might be a good idea), I don't think doing it for this specific card (Charge, unlock Wild) is the right solution."
I was also wondering about how you are going to use HS deck tracker. To me it really difficult to upload decks. I hope your plug-in is a miracle worker.
Wow, that was really soon!
Seems like these class identities is more of a goal than a reality. I wonder how much impact they can make on wild class identities? Ultimately, I am not that excited but I am glad they have a vision. Let's see where it goes.
How about wild? Is it worse or better for wild?
Decent card.
I bet this won't see play most of the time.
My recommendation is to give up. Play another game for a day. Come back to Hearthstone and play arena using https://www.heartharena.com/.
Hearthpwn had a filter based on your card collection. This site doesn't have that feature up and running yet. When trying new decks or new types of decks it may be helpful to watch a pro play them on Youtube or Twitch. I use https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone to understand the meta. If you are thinking about crafting cards I would suggest https://outof.cards/forums/hearthstone/card-discussion/375-legendary-tier-list-crafting-guide or any of the resources that I mentioned in my post on that page.
https://outof.cards/forums/hearthstone/card-discussion/375-legendary-tier-list-crafting-guide
I made a comment on that list.
I believe I am a Bronze supporter as well. (You will probably find me under the name Grayjudge).
Ironically, I found the old list format a bit problematic for us Wild players and I am really grateful that you are going to revamp the format. And yes I did notice that you didn't just copy and paste this list from Hearthpwn.
I was looking at one of SlydE's source material for his list: hearthstonetopdecks.com and I really liked that format. I took my understanding of the meta from Tempostorm to better understand what decks were covered in Hsreplay's list. Because I am used to looking at a crafting list for legends, I also enjoyed Hsreplay's Wild Legendary Card Format list as well. I have alway's enjoyed SlydE's list and it is a shame that he will not be joining us here but I am looking forward to a much-improved format of sorting for the best cards.
Based on other card list from the internet SlydE, Hsreplay and the Wild Meta decklist from Tempostorm, I would suggest thinking about adding Open the Waygate to the list. I am not sure how long it will be a Tier 1 card but it currently is.
Chimera, good luck with your adventures. I hope this gets a link on the main page under "cards." Thank you for all that you do around this website. Chimera you are awesome.
I forget what cards need to get replaced. Did they sort out Pally and Warlock yet?
hmm... well. I feel kind of sheepish. No, it is not working for me. I glanced at it early today and thought it was working. Didn't expect that error. Whoops.
While notifications is something to look forward to in the future, there is currently a way to keep track of discussions that you have participated in.
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