While the effect looks rather powerful, I don't think it's as strong as it seems. Messing up your curve doesn't feel like the best thing to do.
So what deck would want this? The first thought that comes to mind would be in a token deck, but you are normally summoning tokens from spells or deathreattles and those tokens won't benefit from your buff.
An aggro druid deck maybe? Well you want to be aggressive so you'll be relying on you oppoening hand and having this will make your early game weaker. Also aggro decks quickly end up running out of cards so that they can get that ealry game pressure and this card would be an awful top deck that might ruin your momentum.
Control, quest or combo druids don't really need this type of buff.
All that is left would be a midrange druid deck. This could work but you might end up ruining your curve which is not what tempo decks want.
The card just seems quite hard to include in a deck. You can try to build a deck around this card, but then if you don't draw it... Prince Keleseth didn't ruin your curve, gave you tempo and the restriction wasn't all that bad.
A 1 mana 2/2 is a good turn 1 play and it has some flexibility with the other effect. It can be followed up with Dendrologist and you can get some extra value with Keeper Stalladris. Seems like a good card for token druid.
While this is a very nice card that gains you armor, a lackey and an ok body all for 3 mana, it has some competition for that important 3 mana slot in most Warrior decks.
So again, it's a nice card, but Warrior has a lot of strong 3 mana minions that can fit in lots of different decks. Also Warrior doesn't seem to use lackeys all that much unlike Rogue and Warlock. I'm not saying that it won't be able to find a deck, it's just gonna be a little harder than just auto including this in any Warrior deck you make.
Cause you can run a maximum of 4 3 drops in a deck
Yeah I guess at first that was the direction that my comment was going for. What I was trying to say was that this card doesn't seem to be good enough to compete against the other warrior packages.
This minion gives you armor which is good for control and a lackey which is better for getting tempo/value, so I see it being used in a control deck.
So you are going for a control Warrior? In standard, you'll usually want to pair it up with something else like a mech, bomb, taunt, dragon or a rush package. Also you'll want some draw so might as well get an Acolyte of Pain and/or Shield Block. After considering those things, I don't think you'll be looking for another 3 drop.
I wasn't trying to say that you can only run four 3 drops, but that this card just doesn't really answer any major needs for those decks. Also Warrior doesn't have any Lackey synergy cards for a lackey package (for now that is) so its just going to be more complicated to find a good reason to include this card in your control Warrior deck.
I feel like they went too far with this one. It would of been fine if it was like destroying 10 armor, but all of it? High Priest Thekal finally had hope to be in a deck but now people won't want to risk getting destroyed by this thing. I'm not saying that this will ruin the meta, it's just kinda intense having a tech card that can completely destroy a class on it's own.
I am not a fan of this card at all (and I am bias since I do love playing some control Warrior).
Thekal would need to see a lot of play for this to be a relevant tech card again it. The older styles of Fatigue Warrior have been dying off lately so tons of armor gain isn’t as much of a thing other than a few specific decks.
All things considered, I really don’t think this is gonna be that great. Probably along the lines of that secret eater, a nice enough card, bit too niche to see consistent play in different metas
Yeah I guess I am worrying a little too much, it's just that the effect seems really overtuned. Though you will feel rather annoyed when running this card against any class other than Warrior or Druid.
I feel like they went too far with this one. It would of been fine if it was like destroying 10 armor, but all of it? High Priest Thekal finally had hope to be in a deck but now people won't want to risk getting destroyed by this thing. I'm not saying that this will ruin the meta, it's just kinda intense having a tech card that can completely destroy a class on it's own.
I am not a fan of this card at all (and I am bias since I do love playing some control Warrior).
While this is a very nice card that gains you armor, a lackey and an ok body all for 3 mana, it has some competition for that important 3 mana slot in most Warrior decks.
So again, it's a nice card, but Warrior has a lot of strong 3 mana minions that can fit in lots of different decks. Also Warrior doesn't seem to use lackeys all that much unlike Rogue and Warlock. I'm not saying that it won't be able to find a deck, it's just gonna be a little harder than just auto including this in any Warrior deck you make.
After looking at all the standard 1 cost spells for each class, it seems like mage is the best class that is able to properly use this effect. All mage 1 mana spells are flexible enough to see some use except for Learn Draconic, but that card can work in a big spell dragon mage deck with Dragoncaster.
We have Priest and Warrior that would be at second. They both have some good 1 mana spells while having some that can be more situational like Inner Fire and Into the Fray. They also have some decent dragon synergies.
After that we have Shaman at third with lots of 1 mana removal spells, Lightning Breath wouldn't mind having more dragons to help make a dragon shaman deck and it's a battlecry card which could work with Corrupt the Waters.
Paladin has a high chance of getting some secrets out of the battlecry, but I don't think that a secret paladin would want this card since it's such a weak tempo play and a slower dragon paladin deck wouldn't want secrets.
The other classes have too many situational 1 mana spells to make Cobalt Spellkin work. So I think that this card will only see play in either Mage, Warrior, Priest or Shaman.
A good early dragon that any dragon paladin deck would love to run and it doesn't seem to be exclusive to such a deck since the card looks good enough on its own.
The fact that you can only copy an enemy minion doesn't make this as viable as I would want it to be. Using Mindflayer Kaahrj on a big minion and then removing it with a cheap spell like Shadow Word: Death is good but if your opoonent moslty runs cheap aggressive minions, poorly stated battlecry minions or buffed minions this will just be too weak. It's the reason why you moslty see Faceless Manipulator in combo decks, you usually didn't put Faceless Manipulator in your deck for the potential of copying a strong enemy minion but instead so that you can copy one of your minions and Mindflayer Kaahrj can't do that. There are deathrattle synergizes that you could consider, but again, you have to rely on you oponnents minions.
While not as effective as Duskbreaker for clearing the board, the card is great nontheless. Decent stats with a potential board clear. Even without taunt, the potential clear should force your aggro opoonents to sacrifice their minions so that they can rebuild another board.
The effect being a secret is not really important since your opoonent has to judge it as it being activated same as for Chillmaw.
A Eaglehorn Bow that can have X amount of durability might be what Hunter needs to make a dragon hunter competitive.
While the card is very powerful, we don't have enough early game dragons to make full use of its ability. For now these are the cheapest dragons that hunter can use: Faerie Dragon, Marsh Drake, Primordial Explorer and Brightwing.
I feel like we need a few more strong aggresive dragons to make dragon hunter work (which we might get since we still have quite a few neutral minions to be revealed). Though we do have Corrosive Breath and maybe Veranus that are good aggressive tools for such a deck.
I am not going to mention a slower dragon hunter deck (with Carrion Drake or Emeriss) since Hunter does not have any proper healing tools or good card draw for such a deck which are vital for control decks.
It seems that dragon hunter is going the more aggro/midrange path and this card should be quite useful.
I like mechanic and it could help in some big paladin or big warrior decks. The issue is that it draws any card and all decks will run some cheap cards. If this was draw a minon or a spell, it would be easier to built a deck around it. The effect is just too inconsistent and can backfire.
Depth Charge could see play in a deck that runs buffs to make sure that it doesn't die by its own effect and allowing it to trigger multiple times. But if you don't plan on running any synergy cards with it, Doomsayer seems like a better option.
While I love more neutral dragon synergy cards, this is going to be very annoying when your opponent gets to play this on curve and you are still waiting on drawing yours, just like with Prince Keleseth.
The card itself is very strong with good stats and an amazing battlecry for any dragon deck or dragon related combos.
This card can draw your Academic Espionage cards for a good tempo play, shuffled Pogo-Hoppers or even revive one or multiple Waxadreds. It gives more control over shuffled cards from Lab Recruiter, Shadow of Death and Togwaggle's Scheme and can help these cards see more play in constructed decks. It's a strong card that should bring more attention to shuffle shenanigans.
A Shifter Zerus for legendaries that always has decent stats, always costs 5 and is more managable. It's a fun card to run but these types of effects are never competitive.
This card is ok. If Nithogg had some better stats it wouldn't be as mediocre since your opponent would be kinda forced to attack the eggs while leaving a big dragon alive, but Nithogg is a 6 mana 5/5 unlike Veranus that has much better stats and a better immediate effect. Nithogg is underwhelming but could still see some play just to be able to activate Lightning Breath and you could see it as a 6 mana 5/11 that has the potential to become a total of 13/13 in stats on turn 7.
It can be a decent board clear for handlock that resembles Volcano.
I am always looking for an excuse to try and make Hakkar, the Soulflayer work. Maybe I can try this in a Rogue deck with Necrium Apothecary.
While the effect looks rather powerful, I don't think it's as strong as it seems. Messing up your curve doesn't feel like the best thing to do.
So what deck would want this? The first thought that comes to mind would be in a token deck, but you are normally summoning tokens from spells or deathreattles and those tokens won't benefit from your buff.
An aggro druid deck maybe? Well you want to be aggressive so you'll be relying on you oppoening hand and having this will make your early game weaker. Also aggro decks quickly end up running out of cards so that they can get that ealry game pressure and this card would be an awful top deck that might ruin your momentum.
Control, quest or combo druids don't really need this type of buff.
All that is left would be a midrange druid deck. This could work but you might end up ruining your curve which is not what tempo decks want.
The card just seems quite hard to include in a deck. You can try to build a deck around this card, but then if you don't draw it...
Prince Keleseth didn't ruin your curve, gave you tempo and the restriction wasn't all that bad.
A 1 mana 2/2 is a good turn 1 play and it has some flexibility with the other effect. It can be followed up with Dendrologist and you can get some extra value with Keeper Stalladris. Seems like a good card for token druid.
It's a nice card with a good stats, taunt and a permanent buff for your treants. It's great to see some more support for treant decks.
Yeah I guess at first that was the direction that my comment was going for. What I was trying to say was that this card doesn't seem to be good enough to compete against the other warrior packages.
This minion gives you armor which is good for control and a lackey which is better for getting tempo/value, so I see it being used in a control deck.
So you are going for a control Warrior? In standard, you'll usually want to pair it up with something else like a mech, bomb, taunt, dragon or a rush package. Also you'll want some draw so might as well get an Acolyte of Pain and/or Shield Block. After considering those things, I don't think you'll be looking for another 3 drop.
I wasn't trying to say that you can only run four 3 drops, but that this card just doesn't really answer any major needs for those decks. Also Warrior doesn't have any Lackey synergy cards for a lackey package (for now that is) so its just going to be more complicated to find a good reason to include this card in your control Warrior deck.
Yeah I guess I am worrying a little too much, it's just that the effect seems really overtuned. Though you will feel rather annoyed when running this card against any class other than Warrior or Druid.
Such is the nature of tech cards I suppose.
I never thought they would print such a card...
I feel like they went too far with this one. It would of been fine if it was like destroying 10 armor, but all of it? High Priest Thekal finally had hope to be in a deck but now people won't want to risk getting destroyed by this thing. I'm not saying that this will ruin the meta, it's just kinda intense having a tech card that can completely destroy a class on it's own.
I am not a fan of this card at all (and I am bias since I do love playing some control Warrior).
While this is a very nice card that gains you armor, a lackey and an ok body all for 3 mana, it has some competition for that important 3 mana slot in most Warrior decks.
Are you playing a dragon deck? Scion of Ruin and Smolderthorn Lancer might be a better choice.
Rush synergy? Scion of Ruin and Rabid Worgen want in.
More of the aggressive type? Frothing Berserker and Bloodsworn Mercenary are stronger.
Bombing some fools? Clockwork Goblin and Augmented Elekk are the ones for the job.
Drawing cards? Acolyte of Pains body is ready!
Galakrond deck? Scion of Ruin is a must.
So again, it's a nice card, but Warrior has a lot of strong 3 mana minions that can fit in lots of different decks. Also Warrior doesn't seem to use lackeys all that much unlike Rogue and Warlock. I'm not saying that it won't be able to find a deck, it's just gonna be a little harder than just auto including this in any Warrior deck you make.
After looking at all the standard 1 cost spells for each class, it seems like mage is the best class that is able to properly use this effect. All mage 1 mana spells are flexible enough to see some use except for Learn Draconic, but that card can work in a big spell dragon mage deck with Dragoncaster.
We have Priest and Warrior that would be at second. They both have some good 1 mana spells while having some that can be more situational like Inner Fire and Into the Fray. They also have some decent dragon synergies.
After that we have Shaman at third with lots of 1 mana removal spells, Lightning Breath wouldn't mind having more dragons to help make a dragon shaman deck and it's a battlecry card which could work with Corrupt the Waters.
Paladin has a high chance of getting some secrets out of the battlecry, but I don't think that a secret paladin would want this card since it's such a weak tempo play and a slower dragon paladin deck wouldn't want secrets.
The other classes have too many situational 1 mana spells to make Cobalt Spellkin work. So I think that this card will only see play in either Mage, Warrior, Priest or Shaman.
A good early dragon that any dragon paladin deck would love to run and it doesn't seem to be exclusive to such a deck since the card looks good enough on its own.
The fact that you can only copy an enemy minion doesn't make this as viable as I would want it to be. Using Mindflayer Kaahrj on a big minion and then removing it with a cheap spell like Shadow Word: Death is good but if your opoonent moslty runs cheap aggressive minions, poorly stated battlecry minions or buffed minions this will just be too weak. It's the reason why you moslty see Faceless Manipulator in combo decks, you usually didn't put Faceless Manipulator in your deck for the potential of copying a strong enemy minion but instead so that you can copy one of your minions and Mindflayer Kaahrj can't do that. There are deathrattle synergizes that you could consider, but again, you have to rely on you oponnents minions.
While not as effective as Duskbreaker for clearing the board, the card is great nontheless. Decent stats with a potential board clear. Even without taunt, the potential clear should force your aggro opoonents to sacrifice their minions so that they can rebuild another board.
The effect being a secret is not really important since your opoonent has to judge it as it being activated same as for Chillmaw.
This card also works with cards such as Wretched Reclaimer, Shadowy Figure or even Reckless Experimenter for the guaranteed immediate effect.
A great card for dragon priest with a good amount of synergies.
A Eaglehorn Bow that can have X amount of durability might be what Hunter needs to make a dragon hunter competitive.
While the card is very powerful, we don't have enough early game dragons to make full use of its ability. For now these are the cheapest dragons that hunter can use: Faerie Dragon, Marsh Drake, Primordial Explorer and Brightwing.
I feel like we need a few more strong aggresive dragons to make dragon hunter work (which we might get since we still have quite a few neutral minions to be revealed). Though we do have Corrosive Breath and maybe Veranus that are good aggressive tools for such a deck.
I am not going to mention a slower dragon hunter deck (with Carrion Drake or Emeriss) since Hunter does not have any proper healing tools or good card draw for such a deck which are vital for control decks.
It seems that dragon hunter is going the more aggro/midrange path and this card should be quite useful.
I like mechanic and it could help in some big paladin or big warrior decks. The issue is that it draws any card and all decks will run some cheap cards. If this was draw a minon or a spell, it would be easier to built a deck around it. The effect is just too inconsistent and can backfire.
Depth Charge could see play in a deck that runs buffs to make sure that it doesn't die by its own effect and allowing it to trigger multiple times. But if you don't plan on running any synergy cards with it, Doomsayer seems like a better option.
While I love more neutral dragon synergy cards, this is going to be very annoying when your opponent gets to play this on curve and you are still waiting on drawing yours, just like with Prince Keleseth.
The card itself is very strong with good stats and an amazing battlecry for any dragon deck or dragon related combos.
This card can draw your Academic Espionage cards for a good tempo play, shuffled Pogo-Hoppers or even revive one or multiple Waxadreds. It gives more control over shuffled cards from Lab Recruiter, Shadow of Death and Togwaggle's Scheme and can help these cards see more play in constructed decks. It's a strong card that should bring more attention to shuffle shenanigans.
A Shifter Zerus for legendaries that always has decent stats, always costs 5 and is more managable. It's a fun card to run but these types of effects are never competitive.
This card is ok. If Nithogg had some better stats it wouldn't be as mediocre since your opponent would be kinda forced to attack the eggs while leaving a big dragon alive, but Nithogg is a 6 mana 5/5 unlike Veranus that has much better stats and a better immediate effect. Nithogg is underwhelming but could still see some play just to be able to activate Lightning Breath and you could see it as a 6 mana 5/11 that has the potential to become a total of 13/13 in stats on turn 7.