my advice for you personally is to uninstall the game and learn to have fun. If elusives piss you off so bad, then the real issue is that you get upset over a card game.
Before the showcase of new cards, Darius was a semi viable champion pick. Having the strongest Power and overwhelm, and can level up mid combat to surprise lethal the Nexus was cool. But now, there are many champions that do damage to the Nexus in more interesting ways. Yes I do think his core should be simply strength. But that is all he has going for him. Plus it doesnt take much to kill Darius.
All these people crying. I could not care less about Bannerman decks being nerfed. I dont play Demacia. What I'm saying is that if you think Elusives are so broken, then you dont know how to counter.
Note: some spells or units can be used against other things. But I won't repeat their exact names (i.e: Demacia - Purify) because that's super redundant.
Against a Burst Spell
Demacia
Purify
Against a Fast/Slow Spell
Demacia
Detain
Ionia
Deny
Wind of Ionia
Against a Power buff Spell (before and after the spell goes through)
Everyone complaining about how there is no counter to elusive units and how the game is ruined by an "uninteresting mechanic," then threaten to quit and uninstall the game. Go do it then lol.
The issue isn't with Elusives, the issue is with your inability to understand that more likely you'll be fighting elusives and will need counter cards. So many people are currently hopping on the Bannerman express because of its round 4 power spike, and yet they complain that all the power and health in the world can't stop an Ionia deck. Guess what, YOU'RE RIGHT. What good is that when you are getting bodied by a Solitary Monk with Stand Alone and by Shadow Assassins?
So now you been known that power and health alone don't counter elusive attacks. Well you know what does, that is commonly found in every goddamn Bannerman deck? CHALLENGER UNITS, SINGLE COMBAT, and PURIFY. WOW! How many Fleet Feathertrackers (challenger) have I went against, paired with War Chefs or Laurent Chevalier (also challenger btw). You can (oh my god) CHALLENGE the elusives in battle and force them to defend! Oh what? The enemy had enough mana for Twin Disciples or variant of a Barrier spell? Well if you were smart enough to perceive it, you should have Purify to nullify EVERYTHING.
Another fun factoid is that you can counter elusives with OTHER elusives. And Frostbite. And Vengeance. And Drain. And Noxus Guillotine. And simply having a spread out board so that they will have to defend against something or take hella damage/lethal.
Garen is a midrange Champ from Demacia who lives by justice, truth, and faith in his kingdom by destroying all who would oppose him. He is also a giant pain to deal with due to his Regeneration and easy requirements to Level Up.
Counters:
Demacia
Spells that give bonus Power
Radiant Strike, Stand Alone, Riposte, Back To Back, For Demacia, Redoubled Valor
Spells that Strike or allows the chance to Strike
Level Up Warning: Some cards such as Single Combat and Rally give Garen the chance to strike twice and thus satisfy his requirement. Make sure to have allies that can kill him by the second strike.
Single Combat, En Garde, Relentless Pursuit, Judgment
Burst Spells
Radiant Strike - very cheap and handy, it can give you the +1 Power to end the valiant knight.
En Garde - If you are attacking, using this card allows you to choose which enemy you want which ally to battle. Great if you have a high Powered ally.
Stand Alone - Only usable when there is a singular ally on the field, this card can suddenly turn the tide for you and finish off Garen with the bonus 3 Power.
Riposte - Grants an ally 3 Power and Barrier, allowing you to defeat Garen while leaving your ally unscathed.
Back to Back - The more expensive version of Stand Alone (and only lasts for a single round), you can put this on two allies.
Fast Spells
Single Combat - You can force Garen to fight one of your allies, which lowers his health. Great if you have an ally with more Power than his Health, or if during Combat, he is battling an ally and another one from Single Combat.
Relentless Pursuit - Allows you to have another go at the enemy. Should you have attacked already and lowered Garen's Health, you can do it again in the same round, potentially beating him before his Regeneration kicks in.
Detain - Allows an ally to capture him, removing him from play. It's wiser to put on a follower who won't be fighting or has a lot of Health.
Judgment - While costly, it allows an ally in combat to strike every battling enemy without taking damage. It can either wipe out Garen completely or give the ally the opportunity to kill him when they strike each other.
Slow Spells
For Demacia! - The much slower version of Stand Alone, this buffs all allies.
Redoubled Valor - Pulling off this card can give your ally both the strength and endurance to battle Garen.
Units that give Power or have the Power to kill Garen
This is a thread made to discuss how to counter spells and unit skills, as well as spell and unit damage. Ranging from how to deal with a certain Champion no matter which region deck your playing, to how to stop spells when you don't have Deny because you just don't always want to use freaking Ionia decks.
Notes: Since there are LOADS of counters to cards, for the sake of space and time, I won't do combo card moves. i.e.: Use Glimpse Beyond to kill an ally in order to use Black Spear on an enemy. Those combo moves are up to you to either post here or figure out in-game.
my advice for you personally is to uninstall the game and learn to have fun. If elusives piss you off so bad, then the real issue is that you get upset over a card game.
Before the showcase of new cards, Darius was a semi viable champion pick. Having the strongest Power and overwhelm, and can level up mid combat to surprise lethal the Nexus was cool. But now, there are many champions that do damage to the Nexus in more interesting ways. Yes I do think his core should be simply strength. But that is all he has going for him. Plus it doesnt take much to kill Darius.
All these people crying. I could not care less about Bannerman decks being nerfed. I dont play Demacia. What I'm saying is that if you think Elusives are so broken, then you dont know how to counter.
How to Counter: Spells that give buffs to units
Note: some spells or units can be used against other things. But I won't repeat their exact names (i.e: Demacia - Purify) because that's super redundant.
Everyone complaining about how there is no counter to elusive units and how the game is ruined by an "uninteresting mechanic," then threaten to quit and uninstall the game. Go do it then lol.
The issue isn't with Elusives, the issue is with your inability to understand that more likely you'll be fighting elusives and will need counter cards. So many people are currently hopping on the Bannerman express because of its round 4 power spike, and yet they complain that all the power and health in the world can't stop an Ionia deck. Guess what, YOU'RE RIGHT. What good is that when you are getting bodied by a Solitary Monk with Stand Alone and by Shadow Assassins?
So now you been known that power and health alone don't counter elusive attacks. Well you know what does, that is commonly found in every goddamn Bannerman deck? CHALLENGER UNITS, SINGLE COMBAT, and PURIFY. WOW! How many Fleet Feathertrackers (challenger) have I went against, paired with War Chefs or Laurent Chevalier (also challenger btw). You can (oh my god) CHALLENGE the elusives in battle and force them to defend!
Oh what? The enemy had enough mana for Twin Disciples or variant of a Barrier spell? Well if you were smart enough to perceive it, you should have Purify to nullify EVERYTHING.
Another fun factoid is that you can counter elusives with OTHER elusives. And Frostbite. And Vengeance. And Drain. And Noxus Guillotine. And simply having a spread out board so that they will have to defend against something or take hella damage/lethal.
How to Counter: Garen
Basic Rundown of Stats:
General analysis:
Garen is a midrange Champ from Demacia who lives by justice, truth, and faith in his kingdom by destroying all who would oppose him. He is also a giant pain to deal with due to his Regeneration and easy requirements to Level Up.
Counters:
This is a thread made to discuss how to counter spells and unit skills, as well as spell and unit damage. Ranging from how to deal with a certain Champion no matter which region deck your playing, to how to stop spells when you don't have Deny because you just don't always want to use freaking Ionia decks.
Notes: Since there are LOADS of counters to cards, for the sake of space and time, I won't do combo card moves. i.e.: Use Glimpse Beyond to kill an ally in order to use Black Spear on an enemy. Those combo moves are up to you to either post here or figure out in-game.