Zul'jin would also re-cast the quest though, so as long as you can reliably complete it post-zul'jin I don't see any competition
That's what my hope is, that they both fit into the same deck. Played some quest/Zul'Jin hunter before and it's really fun, but..just unnecessary because at that point you won/lost anyway.
That secret thing seems very likely for some reason, but I would like something more.. fun, I guess.
That brawl really answers questions which are "What is meta?", "How does meta shape?" and "What if we don't balance the game?"
I mean, you could say that in general the Meta starts out with weak decks, which get crushed later on by refined decks and this Brawl demonstrates that well enough. But this Brawl's Meta is not how Metas in Hearthstone generally work.
It doesn't really answer the questions, but could give someone who hears that word for the first time a general idea of what that term means in Hearthstone.
Well, I was trying to fish for non mercenary decks and came across this technology mage (1015 I think) with ~100 wins. Gotten it 3 times with different win numbers already. It seems to spread decently or I wouldn't see it this much. Its early game doesn't seem consistent enough though. I always Mulligan full early game, but maybe I've just been unlucky.
Unfortunately this mage deck got rid of the dragon priest (dragonfire) I had before which was actually pretty good.
But that's the thing, we already know what's gonna win. It has already won, tbh.
If they really do not reset then they should atleast make it start with completely random decks next time, like someone else already suggested. That way the brawl won't be 'finished' as early as this one.
Scarlet Webweaver, because building janky Combo Hunter decks is the best. Can't wait to.. 'krush' my enemies, if you know what I mean. I'll let myself out, thanks.
While the evolution idea is quite interessting, I thought beforehand, we'd get random decks. With truly random decks, it would model evolution far better.
But didn't it start with fully random decks? And someone just highrolled this thing? I guess they base their decks around some archetypes, like the factions from a dungeon run, that's how the deck got so good so fast?
Not sure, when I started to play, that mercenary deck was everywhere already. But my first deck was pretty random (aka super bad).
They could reset all the decks after ~2 days, because that isn't going away lol.
I mean, it's the whole point of the brawl, but it's making the brawl pretty boring. So why not announce who won in a short post from a community manager to explain what's going on, then reset.
Btw, does this deck swap also work with friend duels? If so, people could 'share' decks to beat this.
It's the same triggered as being triggered by something that is wrong. When any comment has the slightest hint of not being correct on this website or Hearthpwn it will attract downvoters and furious answers. In this case the SMOrc part, or what is associated with it (brainless going face without any regard for board state). Made some sense in the Face/Hybrid, Undertaker and now in the Mech Hunter era, but is just wrong in so many cases.
In your case it was just hard to see the irony or the joke behind it, because that can be hard to spot in written form. Don't worry about it though, the true 200iq Hunters out there appreciate the misconceptions and use them to their advantage. Please keep mulliganing/playing for hyper aggressive Hunters, while we abuse that. :p
I agree with your comment btw, it actually is not always a secret to just play out whenever you draw. Very interesting card.
Sorry for the toxic people, your comment is just fine, just hard to see sometimes what people mean on the internet. :)
Crazy good. Effect is strong and makes people do awkward/suboptimal plays, to play around it.
Also one of the few secrets that, when played on turn 2 will most likely survive one turn to activate Masked Contender or make sure you get extra value from Eaglehorn.
Edit: Forgot about coin lul. I think it's still decent at enabling those two cards, but only 50% of the time I guess.
Guys if you're going to downvote, can you please explain why? Let's have a conversation. Getting zero interaction for why you disagree with me is kind of a downer and honestly makes me not want to post here.
I didn't downvote you, but my guess would be picking one statement out of your post and downvoting because of it. Probably the Secret Hunter part? Because Secret Hunter is actually good (but not played much). Iirc it's pretty good against cyclone mage and should be good against some aggressive decks.
The rest of your post looks accurate to me, so that's my guess.
Welp, now Secret Hunter has refill. That is going to be pretty scary. And random Hunter beasts have low key gotten pretty good.
It'll be interesting to see if a Master's Call deck is preferable to this.
I think a Master's Call deck is still superior, just because what it draws are basically combo pieces like Springpaw, Timber Wolf, Hyena and Rhino. That said, almost all cards you get from Hunter's Pack are good for a Master's Call deck. Hell, even Starving Buzzard is decent. Maybe we'll have a Meta that calls for insane value and/or constant pressure mid-/lategame, where you would play both cards in the same deck? Probably not, but who knows.
I agree with it being good for Secret Hunter. Very good, indeed.
Hunter seems to be in that nice spot again, where it can play tons of different archetypes that are all close to or even top tier. Secrets, Mech, Master's Call (Aggro and Midrange) and Vereesa/Burn Hunter (not the Jeppeto version, that one's pretty garbage imo) is pretty close to being very good. Hunter will definitely be Tier 1 with one of these or even something else, its cards are way too good, the archetypes are very flexible and can easily be adjusted to a certain Meta.
If there are enough good hunter cards to make a decent Highlander deck in Standard, chances are there will be a more dominant hunter archetype that does the same but performs better in every aspect. And I don't see a Highlander Hunter filling a specific niche of an archetype that couldn't be made better by just running a normal deck. There is nothing unique that this deck could do, except for Brann. And for it to be better than its 2-off variant you would need to draw as good as its counterpart early and midgame (which is made harder because of the Highlander nature of the deck) AND draw Brann till turn 7. It just doesn't seem very consistent.
Wild is obviously something else, it's just a good upgrade for an already decent deck.
If this were Hearthpwn I would vote 'playable' for Standard and 'very good' for Wild.
That's what my hope is, that they both fit into the same deck. Played some quest/Zul'Jin hunter before and it's really fun, but..just unnecessary because at that point you won/lost anyway.
That secret thing seems very likely for some reason, but I would like something more.. fun, I guess.
I mean, you could say that in general the Meta starts out with weak decks, which get crushed later on by refined decks and this Brawl demonstrates that well enough. But this Brawl's Meta is not how Metas in Hearthstone generally work.
It doesn't really answer the questions, but could give someone who hears that word for the first time a general idea of what that term means in Hearthstone.
Well, I was trying to fish for non mercenary decks and came across this technology mage (1015 I think) with ~100 wins. Gotten it 3 times with different win numbers already. It seems to spread decently or I wouldn't see it this much. Its early game doesn't seem consistent enough though. I always Mulligan full early game, but maybe I've just been unlucky.
Unfortunately this mage deck got rid of the dragon priest (dragonfire) I had before which was actually pretty good.
Edit: playing on EU
Seems like it's working out.
But that's the thing, we already know what's gonna win. It has already won, tbh.
If they really do not reset then they should atleast make it start with completely random decks next time, like someone else already suggested. That way the brawl won't be 'finished' as early as this one.
Scarlet Webweaver, because building janky Combo Hunter decks is the best. Can't wait to.. 'krush' my enemies, if you know what I mean. I'll let myself out, thanks.
"But you didn't even hit the one that was attacking me?! - Sorry, my bad."
A Hunter card, you're free to pick whatever part of that picture.
But didn't it start with fully random decks? And someone just highrolled this thing? I guess they base their decks around some archetypes, like the factions from a dungeon run, that's how the deck got so good so fast?
Not sure, when I started to play, that mercenary deck was everywhere already. But my first deck was pretty random (aka super bad).
They could reset all the decks after ~2 days, because that isn't going away lol.
I mean, it's the whole point of the brawl, but it's making the brawl pretty boring. So why not announce who won in a short post from a community manager to explain what's going on, then reset.
Btw, does this deck swap also work with friend duels? If so, people could 'share' decks to beat this.
It's the same triggered as being triggered by something that is wrong. When any comment has the slightest hint of not being correct on this website or Hearthpwn it will attract downvoters and furious answers. In this case the SMOrc part, or what is associated with it (brainless going face without any regard for board state). Made some sense in the Face/Hybrid, Undertaker and now in the Mech Hunter era, but is just wrong in so many cases.
In your case it was just hard to see the irony or the joke behind it, because that can be hard to spot in written form. Don't worry about it though, the true 200iq Hunters out there appreciate the misconceptions and use them to their advantage. Please keep mulliganing/playing for hyper aggressive Hunters, while we abuse that. :p
I agree with your comment btw, it actually is not always a secret to just play out whenever you draw. Very interesting card.
Sorry for the toxic people, your comment is just fine, just hard to see sometimes what people mean on the internet. :)
Crazy good. Effect is strong and makes people do awkward/suboptimal plays, to play around it.
Also one of the few secrets that, when played on turn 2 will most likely survive one turn to activate Masked Contender or make sure you get extra value from Eaglehorn.
Edit: Forgot about coin lul. I think it's still decent at enabling those two cards, but only 50% of the time I guess.
This seems like a card that could cause a lot of problems for T5. I hope they know what they've gotten themselves into.
I didn't downvote you, but my guess would be picking one statement out of your post and downvoting because of it. Probably the Secret Hunter part? Because Secret Hunter is actually good (but not played much). Iirc it's pretty good against cyclone mage and should be good against some aggressive decks.
The rest of your post looks accurate to me, so that's my guess.
I think a Master's Call deck is still superior, just because what it draws are basically combo pieces like Springpaw, Timber Wolf, Hyena and Rhino. That said, almost all cards you get from Hunter's Pack are good for a Master's Call deck. Hell, even Starving Buzzard is decent. Maybe we'll have a Meta that calls for insane value and/or constant pressure mid-/lategame, where you would play both cards in the same deck? Probably not, but who knows.
I agree with it being good for Secret Hunter. Very good, indeed.
Hunter seems to be in that nice spot again, where it can play tons of different archetypes that are all close to or even top tier. Secrets, Mech, Master's Call (Aggro and Midrange) and Vereesa/Burn Hunter (not the Jeppeto version, that one's pretty garbage imo) is pretty close to being very good. Hunter will definitely be Tier 1 with one of these or even something else, its cards are way too good, the archetypes are very flexible and can easily be adjusted to a certain Meta.
Hey, that's pretty good.
Edit: Especially the weapon part. Only Eaglehorn, Hatchet and Gladiators Longbow, right?
You get a Secret for Eaglehorn, a Beast for Hatchet and Gladiator is underrated, imo atleast.
Also, Zul'Jin value, jeez.
If there are enough good hunter cards to make a decent Highlander deck in Standard, chances are there will be a more dominant hunter archetype that does the same but performs better in every aspect. And I don't see a Highlander Hunter filling a specific niche of an archetype that couldn't be made better by just running a normal deck. There is nothing unique that this deck could do, except for Brann. And for it to be better than its 2-off variant you would need to draw as good as its counterpart early and midgame (which is made harder because of the Highlander nature of the deck) AND draw Brann till turn 7. It just doesn't seem very consistent.
Wild is obviously something else, it's just a good upgrade for an already decent deck.
If this were Hearthpwn I would vote 'playable' for Standard and 'very good' for Wild.