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Riot needs to update wording?

Submitted 4 years, 2 months ago by

Hey. Please see the below highlight, I am not trying to gain publicity, I just want peoples opinion on the matter, as I think it's a recurring issue with Riots games, even LoL has bad wording, which is tolerable...  but a card game should be as clear as possible and I feel there are many lazy mistakes.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/554343236

 

Let me know what you think, am I just being an idiot, or should Riot get there act together? Yes it is easy to just learn and memorise how cards ACTUALLY work but that should not be required.

  • woodenplatform's Avatar
    50 2 Posts Joined 02/19/2020
    Posted 4 years, 2 months ago

    Hey. Please see the below highlight, I am not trying to gain publicity, I just want peoples opinion on the matter, as I think it's a recurring issue with Riots games, even LoL has bad wording, which is tolerable...  but a card game should be as clear as possible and I feel there are many lazy mistakes.

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/554343236

     

    Let me know what you think, am I just being an idiot, or should Riot get there act together? Yes it is easy to just learn and memorise how cards ACTUALLY work but that should not be required.

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  • GerritDeMan's Avatar
    Unicorn Reveler 525 264 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 4 years, 2 months ago

    I agree, they also didn't properly explain this "change" in the patch notes.

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  • Sitrax's Avatar
    Outland Scholar 195 57 Posts Joined 06/12/2019
    Posted 4 years, 2 months ago

    Because it's the damage that's rounded up and not the life total.

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  • DoubleSummon's Avatar
    Ancestral Recall 1585 2271 Posts Joined 03/25/2019
    Posted 4 years, 2 months ago

    Yeah there is some clunky wording here and there.. and they made Commander Ledros wording even less clear.. (but it was worse before!) the problem is that they didn't explain that the effect stayed the same in the patch notes..

    about overwhelm.. ye.. it's a confusing keyword by how it's written, but actually striking an enemy doesn't mean he is a blocker, I think it's specifically means the battle phase blocker when you attack on the battle phase..

    But let's look at the bright side 95% of the cards are quite clear on what they do.. so they are not doing such a bad job do they?

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  • meisterz39's Avatar
    925 1200 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 4 years, 2 months ago

    This is actually kind of funny - I suspect Riot saw feedback online about frustrations around how damage is rounded up despite no indication (and a slew of other card games that consistently round down), and so tried to incorporate that into their card text, and went backwards on clarity.

    Clearly, the effect is "cut the enemy health in half, rounded down" or "deal damage equal to half the enemy nexus' health, rounded up." In either case, the effect remains the same as it always was, so at least that level of consistency is there. But the text should certainly reflect that more accurately.

    I actually think the Overwhelm keyword is fine for a couple of reasons. First, the help text explicitly states "my blocker," and blocking only happens in combat. Second, it's very consistent with MTG's Trample keyword. Trample deals excess damage to your opponent's health, but if you use a spell to force your creature to fight another creature, it doesn't cause trample damage to hit the enemy life total. This is because when you attack, you are targeting enemy HP, so of course any excess damage continues to target that enemy HP. But when two units attack each other as a result of a spell, there's no target for the excess damage, so it goes nowhere.

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  • Marega's Avatar
    620 872 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 4 years, 2 months ago

    Wait a second...so Ledros can still kill you if u have only 1 health? I thought they changed it

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  • meisterz39's Avatar
    925 1200 Posts Joined 06/03/2019
    Posted 4 years, 2 months ago
    Quote From Marega

    Wait a second...so Ledros can still kill you if u have only 1 health? I thought they changed it

    Nope - they just tried, and failed, to clarify his behavior

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  • FortyDust's Avatar
    Pumpkin 1205 1908 Posts Joined 05/29/2019
    Posted 4 years, 2 months ago

    It's hilarious how excited everyone got, though.

    "Great nerf! Good job, Riot! ... Ummm, you didn't actually change anything?"

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  • woodenplatform's Avatar
    50 2 Posts Joined 02/19/2020
    Posted 4 years, 2 months ago

    Thanks for all the feedback, I was uncertain if I was gonna get flamed or not, glad to see I am not alone in this. I am used to Riot not having the best reputation for clarity, but I think when you are updating a cards text to try and make it more clear and you make it even LESS clear, then you need to hire a new team.... either way, thanks for the responses guys.

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  • GerritDeMan's Avatar
    Unicorn Reveler 525 264 Posts Joined 05/28/2019
    Posted 4 years, 2 months ago
    Quote From woodenplatform

    Thanks for all the feedback, I was uncertain if I was gonna get flamed or not, glad to see I am not alone in this. I am used to Riot not having the best reputation for clarity, but I think when you are updating a cards text to try and make it more clear and you make it even LESS clear, then you need to hire a new team.... either way, thanks for the responses guys.

    Well, I would say hiring an entirely new team just because they screwed up trying to improve the card text of a single card is a bit extreme, but they should definitely improve or at least revert the card text change in a future patch.

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