I personally am a sucker for meme cards/decks and my play-style reflects that! What I was conveying with my pun (and thought OP said the same), was that thematically the card doesn't belong in the darkest event of the year, while Mysterious Challenger fits perfectly the description. I don't care about powerhouses and how strong card additions interact with the meta, I'm just all about fun and staying in character for the limited-time event.
Because this is a multiple-card dependent OTK combo, meaning that many spells will be played in a single turn for the combo to go off. Vargoth will cast a random spell from shield, lash, hymn, blast or even the coin at the end of turn. The minions will be played during turn 6 too (or turn 5 with the coin), unless you manage to buff a cleric with shields and draw faster with shield and healing the previous turns.
If by quick play you mean Casual, you are out of luck. Only Ranked and Arena mode wins can unlock both the golden portraits and the soon-to-be-added new class portraits.
I wonder if those event cards can also be used in old adventure missions, since they are going to be added in everyone's collection, or if they can be discoverable through Discover effects like Brightwing's in standard.
You haven't convinced me that there is a problem here (...)
The problem: Let's assume that I am at rank 4 now. It's a matter of months before I reach Rank 20 through careful planning of my win/loss ratio, dropping 4 ranks at a time. Then I lose some more by conceding, to adjust my MMR accordingly, only to be matched against the poor souls who happened to be naive and ascend to the Rank 20 floor. My strat now is to win one match and concede the next or two and guess what; my MMR is low enough to be matched against those "[Hearthstone Card (Mark of Hakkar) Not Found]" players that are kind enough to greet me when they see me and are a delight to play against! On top of that, I farm gold faster than having to win an Archivist Elysiana mirror match! Only when I see another player like me (trust me when I say that they are easy to spot) I concede, but only if I was fast enough to press the concede button before they did. You would be surprised to learn that it actually hurts me more to win against those better win-rate guys, so I have learned how to concede in a blink of the eye (at the moment just before I hear the name of my hero, if taking reaction time into consideration)! What I've learned through this process: I'm actually better at assessing the correct match for me than the Hearthstone matchmaking algorithm!
Please understand and don't make this about my friend. It's not about him or how well he will do against other players in general or what are his outs from the situation he put himself in. He didn't start this topic asking for help or to blow off some steam. I stared this discussion about something you might be interested to talk or might want to know about. My friend's experience on ladder is used just to make myself understood and to offer some insight of the whole condition.
That being said, it's about unfair matchmaking by an automated system, which allowed a "newbie" and a "pro" contest each other not once but consistently, just because it's convenient for the pro to abuse said system for profit. Do you find getting steamrolled and bullied appealing? Maybe it doesn't affect you and you couldn't care less. Share your thoughts on the whole new player experience from your point of view, rather than tips on what decks to play or which format and what strategy would be beneficial to them.
That's also why they made ranks 50-25, where beginners with just Basic collection belong.
I do believe that too. The thing is that no one warns you about staying there for some time. I personally didn't even now, until I saw it when we played a little together. You just assume that "this is not your league" and try to find your match. Now there is no returning back to the "safe zone".
But let's concentrate on the bigger picture here. Not only completely new players suffer from that, but also low-tier decks who just don't have the resources to build a competitive deck. Rank 16-20 should be for decks like these since you can't escape once you reach that floor, or even better the devs could unlock the low-tier ranks for those who feel they belong there. That way they won't fall prey to "seasoned" players and get bullied to no end.
I hope I don't sound like I hate the game (although I hate some aspects of it), but now that I experienced that first hand, I confidently say that this situation needs some attention.
Do you know who else is stuck on the "75%" floor of this outdated image? Players who have abandoned the game for good and those who deserted or don't climb the ladder with their quest farming/"play-a-friend" accounts etc. That 100 million milestone that Hearthstone achieved some years ago, counts those accounts too. I know for a fact that, if you ever tried deleting your Hearthstone account, you would be asked for some form of ID to send them in order to process your demand. So, not carying anymore, they just leave and unsubscribe from mailing lists, having nothing to do with the game anymore and Blizzard gets to boast about their ever-growing, loyal fan base.
What I care about, is the new people who hear about this popular CCG as well as the community that sustain it, the guides and support outside of it etc, and get super-hyped to start a fresh account only to have their expectations crashed by examples like these. I do want new people to join in and feel valuable, protected and treated with respect from the game itself most importantly. If they do feel like it, they are going to support both the devs and the community with any way possible and the game will flourish. I'm saddened to say that my friend is not going to be one of them; "To hell with him", right? "This must be a very particular case of a low-motivated folk". Or is it?
I convinced a friend of mine to start playing Hearthstone some time ago and for the moment he prefers being Free-to-Play. He plays a basic mage deck and with my "help" we managed to get to rank 17. He is not new to cards games (we played MTG together) so he has a good understanding of the mechanics and such.
The problem is that as he gets a lot of wins, the algorithm matches him now with golden-portrait players with all-golden decks etc. He couldn't reach his Rank 15 goal, so I advised him to farm a bit in lower ranks, since he wishes to remain F2P for the time being. The problem actually got even worse at bottom ranks. Golden players farm wins and gold at these ranks apparently and ruin the experience for newer players. How are they going to love this game which treats them without respect? Would any of them stay or spend money to get bullied by dudes like them (trust me some of them are really toxic)? I do understand that as people play the game for longer and the skill cap of players get higher, we are going to see more and more of this.
Anyways, I believe that if anyone has been to Rank Legend or has over a certain amount of wins (1500+ wins lets say), the game should not let them drop under rank 15. Maybe if some of them have returned after a long time, there could be some "outs" for them. What do you think of this? If you were new to Hearthstone, would you invest any time, effort or money in a try-hard-looking, overpriced game like this?
EDIT: Apparently some clarification is much needed here. My friend is playing an almost all- basic Mage deck. Not just some basic net-deck. He started playing during summertime (a couple of months ago), so he didn't play consistently, meaning that his collection is non-existent. He ranked up from the first 30 ranks with ease and now faces the situation described above. He is not looking to win everyone he faces, but rather enjoy a card game and having something to discuss over while on break.
"Git gud" kind of commenters fail to see the real problem. Even being a "pro" at Hearthstone won't cut it here, since an under-developed F2P collection is as good as it gets. I think it makes sense that, one would remain F2P if got bullied by top-tier decks (or ditch the game entirely). Spending money to upgrade their collection would feel a bad investment on their behalf; I know I would, but thankfully I started years ago.
Golden players with complete collections farming that low, are a disgrace to the game and should be looked at more carefully by the developing team. That's the point I am making here: the matching system should not allow unfair matchmaking from happening in the first place and also try limiting the ranks in which old/pro/golden/2000+ win players can downgrade to. New players would lose their mind if those players prey upon them all the time. Would you return to the game after that? I don't think so..
I feel that Hunter as a class would need some disruption spells (if we want it to succeed as non-smorc class in the future), but thematically rogue fits the description better.
I hope Crystalize was a thing and possibly passed on to certain minions with a spell. Decks using [Hearthstone Card (Emperor Thaurisan) Not Found] could benefit a lot from this (you would get a double tick before he died) or any other combo pieces for that matter. Hysteria would love this!
I love Toothy Trick too. It's something Hunter needs.
I personally am a sucker for meme cards/decks and my play-style reflects that! What I was conveying with my pun (and thought OP said the same), was that thematically the card doesn't belong in the darkest event of the year, while Mysterious Challenger fits perfectly the description. I don't care about powerhouses and how strong card additions interact with the meta, I'm just all about fun and staying in character for the limited-time event.
If I get your point, I totally agree. Although Mysterious Challenger is thematically to the point, who on earth would Renounce Darkness on Halloween?!
Because this is a multiple-card dependent OTK combo, meaning that many spells will be played in a single turn for the combo to go off. Vargoth will cast a random spell from shield, lash, hymn, blast or even the coin at the end of turn. The minions will be played during turn 6 too (or turn 5 with the coin), unless you manage to buff a cleric with shields and draw faster with shield and healing the previous turns.
If by quick play you mean Casual, you are out of luck. Only Ranked and Arena mode wins can unlock both the golden portraits and the soon-to-be-added new class portraits.
I hope that at some point they will add "crafted" to the search terms, to view the cards that you have spent dust to craft!
I wonder if those event cards can also be used in old adventure missions, since they are going to be added in everyone's collection, or if they can be discoverable through Discover effects like Brightwing's in standard.
Daughter of the Sea, or Mother of Dragons?!
The problem: Let's assume that I am at rank 4 now. It's a matter of months before I reach Rank 20 through careful planning of my win/loss ratio, dropping 4 ranks at a time. Then I lose some more by conceding, to adjust my MMR accordingly, only to be matched against the poor souls who happened to be naive and ascend to the Rank 20 floor. My strat now is to win one match and concede the next or two and guess what; my MMR is low enough to be matched against those "[Hearthstone Card (Mark of Hakkar) Not Found]" players that are kind enough to greet me when they see me and are a delight to play against! On top of that, I farm gold faster than having to win an Archivist Elysiana mirror match! Only when I see another player like me (trust me when I say that they are easy to spot) I concede, but only if I was fast enough to press the concede button before they did. You would be surprised to learn that it actually hurts me more to win against those better win-rate guys, so I have learned how to concede in a blink of the eye (at the moment just before I hear the name of my hero, if taking reaction time into consideration)! What I've learned through this process: I'm actually better at assessing the correct match for me than the Hearthstone matchmaking algorithm!
Please understand and don't make this about my friend. It's not about him or how well he will do against other players in general or what are his outs from the situation he put himself in. He didn't start this topic asking for help or to blow off some steam. I stared this discussion about something you might be interested to talk or might want to know about. My friend's experience on ladder is used just to make myself understood and to offer some insight of the whole condition.
That being said, it's about unfair matchmaking by an automated system, which allowed a "newbie" and a "pro" contest each other not once but consistently, just because it's convenient for the pro to abuse said system for profit. Do you find getting steamrolled and bullied appealing? Maybe it doesn't affect you and you couldn't care less. Share your thoughts on the whole new player experience from your point of view, rather than tips on what decks to play or which format and what strategy would be beneficial to them.
I do believe that too. The thing is that no one warns you about staying there for some time. I personally didn't even now, until I saw it when we played a little together. You just assume that "this is not your league" and try to find your match. Now there is no returning back to the "safe zone".
But let's concentrate on the bigger picture here. Not only completely new players suffer from that, but also low-tier decks who just don't have the resources to build a competitive deck. Rank 16-20 should be for decks like these since you can't escape once you reach that floor, or even better the devs could unlock the low-tier ranks for those who feel they belong there. That way they won't fall prey to "seasoned" players and get bullied to no end.
I hope I don't sound like I hate the game (although I hate some aspects of it), but now that I experienced that first hand, I confidently say that this situation needs some attention.
Do you know who else is stuck on the "75%" floor of this outdated image? Players who have abandoned the game for good and those who deserted or don't climb the ladder with their quest farming/"play-a-friend" accounts etc. That 100 million milestone that Hearthstone achieved some years ago, counts those accounts too. I know for a fact that, if you ever tried deleting your Hearthstone account, you would be asked for some form of ID to send them in order to process your demand. So, not carying anymore, they just leave and unsubscribe from mailing lists, having nothing to do with the game anymore and Blizzard gets to boast about their ever-growing, loyal fan base.
What I care about, is the new people who hear about this popular CCG as well as the community that sustain it, the guides and support outside of it etc, and get super-hyped to start a fresh account only to have their expectations crashed by examples like these. I do want new people to join in and feel valuable, protected and treated with respect from the game itself most importantly. If they do feel like it, they are going to support both the devs and the community with any way possible and the game will flourish. I'm saddened to say that my friend is not going to be one of them; "To hell with him", right? "This must be a very particular case of a low-motivated folk". Or is it?
Hagatha's hero power and King Phaoris as a combo are the tits! I love the way they interact!
I had a Jr. in a successful run, but she didn't upgrade.
I convinced a friend of mine to start playing Hearthstone some time ago and for the moment he prefers being Free-to-Play. He plays a basic mage deck and with my "help" we managed to get to rank 17. He is not new to cards games (we played MTG together) so he has a good understanding of the mechanics and such.
The problem is that as he gets a lot of wins, the algorithm matches him now with golden-portrait players with all-golden decks etc. He couldn't reach his Rank 15 goal, so I advised him to farm a bit in lower ranks, since he wishes to remain F2P for the time being. The problem actually got even worse at bottom ranks. Golden players farm wins and gold at these ranks apparently and ruin the experience for newer players. How are they going to love this game which treats them without respect? Would any of them stay or spend money to get bullied by dudes like them (trust me some of them are really toxic)? I do understand that as people play the game for longer and the skill cap of players get higher, we are going to see more and more of this.
Anyways, I believe that if anyone has been to Rank Legend or has over a certain amount of wins (1500+ wins lets say), the game should not let them drop under rank 15. Maybe if some of them have returned after a long time, there could be some "outs" for them. What do you think of this? If you were new to Hearthstone, would you invest any time, effort or money in a try-hard-looking, overpriced game like this?
EDIT: Apparently some clarification is much needed here. My friend is playing an almost all- basic Mage deck. Not just some basic net-deck. He started playing during summertime (a couple of months ago), so he didn't play consistently, meaning that his collection is non-existent. He ranked up from the first 30 ranks with ease and now faces the situation described above. He is not looking to win everyone he faces, but rather enjoy a card game and having something to discuss over while on break.
"Git gud" kind of commenters fail to see the real problem. Even being a "pro" at Hearthstone won't cut it here, since an under-developed F2P collection is as good as it gets. I think it makes sense that, one would remain F2P if got bullied by top-tier decks (or ditch the game entirely). Spending money to upgrade their collection would feel a bad investment on their behalf; I know I would, but thankfully I started years ago.
Golden players with complete collections farming that low, are a disgrace to the game and should be looked at more carefully by the developing team. That's the point I am making here: the matching system should not allow unfair matchmaking from happening in the first place and also try limiting the ranks in which old/pro/golden/2000+ win players can downgrade to. New players would lose their mind if those players prey upon them all the time. Would you return to the game after that? I don't think so..
It's not that bad either..
I feel that Hunter as a class would need some disruption spells (if we want it to succeed as non-smorc class in the future), but thematically rogue fits the description better.
I hope Crystalize was a thing and possibly passed on to certain minions with a spell. Decks using [Hearthstone Card (Emperor Thaurisan) Not Found] could benefit a lot from this (you would get a double tick before he died) or any other combo pieces for that matter. Hysteria would love this!
I love Toothy Trick too. It's something Hunter needs.
Why would you run Nightmare Amalgam? It will spoil your Sandbinder..
Divine Favor is already HoFed
Yeah, what happened with that?
Those Hero powers and treasures are insane! With Elise's Starseeker Hero Power, Jr. Navigator and Regenerate or Topsy Turvy you can have a long but obvious OTK! Radiant Elemental with Barkskin and all the other 1 mana buff spells targeting Jr. Navigator will work too. I can't wait to find more in-game!